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Meile now uses Filtrete bags-under the "Intensive Clean" name-they fit older models.Riccar is using them now as well.they use them in their uprights and canisters.You can choose the Filtrete type bags or the traditional paper ones for Riccars.The F&G Filtrete bags sound great-these would of course fit Eureka and Royal that uses the "A" bag.
 
Best bags..

I love the Miele bags.. the intensive clean with the "garage door" that comes down to seal it up as you take it out. VERY nice bags.

Derreck
 
Hoover Empower/Hoover V2 Dustcup

I decided to vacuum with my Hoover V2 windtunnel which uses the same dustcup as the Hoover Empower tonight, and show what happens to the screen and filter after this machine is used ONCE. I like it much better with the bag cup, too bad they didn't make a bag cup for the Empower. Keep in mind.. the screen and filter were both clean before I started and I have a one bedroom apartment. Here are the pictures...

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luxboy

you do have a point. just for kicks i decided to borrow the Gift Shop's windtunnel bagless (at the hotel i work at) and use it to vacuum a little. i started off by cleaning the screen and filter beforehand. you WILL end up with dirt stained fingers, manipulating the filter and screen. i vacuumed an area equivalent to about a large room. the screen is not too hard to clean. just run a card over it and the dirt comes off in a sheet. the pleated filter, on the other hand, is a nightmare. id rather use a cloth bag than deal with that hateful pleated filter! the Hoover DID clean beautifully all the while...
 
David..

If you keep vacuuming with that machine, I promise ;-) it will gradually lose suction as that screen becomes more clogged... and furthermore.. who wants to clean up that mess and scrape all that fuzz and junk off of that screen after every use.. certainly not me... lol..

Derreck
 
Kirby and Filtrete

Today I vacuumed the house with my Kirby Legend with small rug nozzle and my G6. Both were fitted with filtrete bags. I have to agree with Ron..the machine seemed to maintain the highest suction throughout and the air flow is amazing. Even over the noice of the Kirby you can hear the rush of wind distinctly almost like you do with an Electrolux G. This is the third major cleaning with the same filtrete bags in each of these cleaners and there was no odor and no apparent loss of suction.

I also was amzaed when...much to my dismay... while dusting a table in my room, the G-6 inhaled a small pebble I had gotten as a remembrance from the Sea of Galilee. The amazing thing was that there was plenty of suction to draw this pebble right into the machine. I was also amazed that it did not harm the fan one bit!!! I do have several other stones from that place so I don't think I'm going to tear open the bag to find it. But clearly there was plenty of suction and the fan was sturdy enough to bear the assault of this pebble! Yea for Kirby and Filtrete!
 
I really do like filtrete bags. Just the other day a lady brought in her Miele for a regular serice and cleaning. The Intensive Clean bag was absolutely packed full of dirt, and backing up into the intake. The vacuum still had enough power to keep cleanin, even though you could tell it had lost a more than noticeable amount of its power.
 
Derreck...your pictures prove a good point...bagless is very messy and sometimes not an option for those with allergies. It is much easier to change a bag and be done with it. I had a Hoover bagless cleaner circa 2001 and hated it. I gave it away to the carpet guy after he installed our new carpeting. I figured it would be good at vacuuming new carpet fluff. Anyway it is out of my house...it was way too messy. Thanks for the pics.

--Tom
 
And I hate it how (has anyone else noticed this) that when you use a bagless machine for awhile, depending on the type of dirt you pick up, the clear canister becomes sandblasted, and hence "frosted." It's not clear anymore.
 
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