anyone selling a dyson for $135

[vacuumboy95]

Well,

The Hoover runs great.Im gald I got it.and I have to say luxboy, youre wrong.the hoover empower runs way longer then what you said.To anwser your questions the hoover empower works great.

 

[convertible68]

I'm thinking next year in Omaha...Hoover EmPower or Windtunnel V2 vs. Dyson.

Hell, even the new Windtunnel 2!

 

[dial-a-matic]

My aunt has a empower lime color. She loves it but... she cannot stand the filters though. Every time I go over her house, i clean the filter out with my stick shark. BUT, I WAS THE ONE WHO BOUGHT IT FOR HER! she gave me te money and told me to buy her a good vacuum. THE FILTER IS NOT AS BAD AS DIRT DEVILS DESIGN!

Ab

 

[compactc9]

I am really not big on bagless vacuums.

But I would certainly take the Dyson over the Hoover. Keep looking for the Dyson, you will eventually find a good deal. I eventually found a nice one for $50. Htey are out there.

 

[tolivac]

If you want a Dyson at a low price-you will have to settle for a used one-Get to know your DTD vacuum dealers-they may get one as a trade in and sell it to you-thats how I got a DC07-from a Kirby distributer.It was a trade in towards a Kirby.Other vac dealers may get them as well.If you get one used-prepare to REPLACE the filter and clean out its dust cup-as well as clipping hair,string from its brushroll.I got my DC07 from the Kirby dealer for $40.

 

[ian88]

In response to an earlier post (which i somehow missed lol) our particular DC02 was straight suction, although I believe later DC02's had an air powered turbobrush.

Ian

 

[vacuumboy105]

stick with empower

stick with the hoover. we have a dyson and i hate it u have to clean the brushes weekly for good preformance. and it breaks so easily exspecailly the gear drive.The hoover will be better. Just clean the filters often.

 

[luxboy]

The Bags, the Bags, the Bags

Tom Anderson:
I imagine the reasons that the high end vacuum cleaners use bags and filters is very simple. Surprised you don't know. It's that they cost MONEY. At Electrolux, a box of bags is $33. The bags for the Miele also cost money, as do the bags for the Sebo. My Hoovers also need bags (and filters). It seems I'm always buying something. Buy, Buy, Buy. Spend, Spend, Spend. Filter, bags, belts, etc.

Oh, by the way. I've never spent one penny on Dyson bags.

I love all the vacuums in my collection, but WHY, oh WHY can't all the manufacturers make bagless cleaners like Dyson does? Could it be that the profits on bags, belts, and filters is very high? I imagine Electrolux makes the lion's share of the profits on a $33 box of bags.

 

[dial-a-matic]

A box of ten bags for my sebo are $15. I would rather spend that much money for the sanity instead of emptying a filthy dirt cup,(unless it is a fantom). OH... my sebo will not loose suction! the bags take months to fill! Can a d---- work on shag rugs? My sebo sure can! will a d---- automaticly adjust its hight? Can you remove the brushbar with a touch of a button? You can shut off the brushbar,I cannot.

Ab

 

[ian88]

And then theres my amusing arguement ;p

Dyson: invented a vacuum cleaner that uses a cyclone.

Hoover: pretty much invented the modern upright vacuum.

who are ya gonna trust? ;p

i'll take 100 years of knowledge and experience over 10 or whatever any day

Ian

 

[vacuumkid3]

I may have posted this earlier on a different thread...

but have we not gone back on ourselves? We invented the "bagless" machine: the Hoover model O. A shake out bag, indeed. Then, Air-Way came along with the disposable paper filter bag. That was so popular that even Hoover, the one who invented the shake out bag, stole the idea. But Air-Way sued Hoover and Hoover could no longer make their paper bags. Now, fast-foward to the year 2006, where people are going with Dyson and other vacuums that leak dust. They rely on filters to filter out most of the small stuff, while good companies, like Air-Way, still haven't budged from their position with paper bags. Sure: paper bags clog. But at least you don't have to worry with expensive HEPA filters! Rainbow makes it difficult to get the dirt out, as you are recommended to change it very often. With a paper bag, you buy some, stick it in, vacuum, vacuum some more, the bag clogs, you SANITARILY throw it in the trash can (no dirt flying around; UNLIKE the bagless systems), and simply put a new one in.

SO: WHY DID WE GO BACK ON OURSELVES??

~~K~~

 

[ian88]

I've heard that HEPA filtration is a gimmick intended to sell new vacuum cleaners to people and nothing more anyway I mean...people wern't dropping like flies in the 60s and 70s and before, before HEPA filtration.

comments anyone?

Ian

 

[myhooverco]

Derreck...I guess if you have money to afford the high end models you can buy the expensive bags. I would rather have the dirt in my bag and throw it away than leave it in the carpet. I can improve the performance in my Hoover with a quick bag change. I get my A, Z, Y bags cheap (5 for $4) and the C bags 20 for $1.50 so its no big deal for me. Why would you spend money on a dyson bag..the darn thing doesn't have one!! That is good! I like that one!!!

Maybe that is why Miele, Sebo have such a loyal following. They produce quality products with a bag. If you buy and pay for quality, then you tend to take care of the item by buying bags and belts for upkeep. I am no expert on these bojack brands. I just know what works for me, period. I just do not have good luck with bagless machines. I see no need of them in my life. I will continue to stick to my good 'ole Hoover Convertible. It did not cost me $400!

--Tom

 

[charles~richard]

Hepa? Hypa!

I agree that by and large, all this hepa business is probably a lot of hyped-up sales-tactics hooey.

As Ian pointed out, people WERE vacuuming for decades without hepa AND without keeling over from asthma or tuberculosis!

Granted, hepa filtration -- not just in vacuum cleaners but heaters, air conditioners and air cleaning systems -- does help people who have allergies or are already prone to asthma. But those people are, thankfully, a tiny minority of the population at large.

Most people can safely use the vacuum cleaners, even the old "dust wheezers and dirt belchers" of days-gone-by without fear!

 

[ian88]

I mean, I use my old Hoover Junior at the moment..yes it makes me sneeze sometimes..but i'm hardly dieing from it

its quite well sealed actually, only sneeze when i'm emptying the bag (using an old vax cloth bag, fits like a glove..
I can't be bothered with buying the paper bags anyhow)

Ian

 

[vinvac]

Hepa Hypa

Charles,

Very well put and I could not agree more. Hoover, Kirby, Electrolux, all the big names came out with new and improved models every few years... facts being that not much changed. Kirby took up the amps on the motor a slight bit, changed brush rolls, added paper bags, but the true facts of the matter are that the machine really did not change a lot. They would find a new sales story to make the buyer think they had this wonderfully new and improved machine....chances are the motor and fan assembly was exactly the same as the last model.

Bagless machines are no different. Those of us, like myself who have allergies, know that a bagless machine does not help us at all, we still have to empty it... and what happens to all that pollen and dirt... back in your face in concentrated form...when it comes time to empty.

Kirby, Air-Way, Electrolux and others that use filtrete bags are better for me. All I have to do is gently remove the bag, cover the opening and I can generally get away with out even a single sneeze...Oreck even seals its own bag as you remove it from the machine...

I love trying new machines, even the bagless, they are all fun to play with, but give me an old Eureka upright, Hoover upright, Kirby, Royal, Lux, Airway, Singer, Hamilton Beach, Sunbeam or Filter Queen and I am as happy as a Bee in a Clover patch.

 

[myhooverco]

Morgan...

I agree completely. All vacuums are fun to play with, but for daily cleaning a bag just works better for me too.

By the way Hoover was notorious for not changing their machines. Just look at the Convertible series, the "60" series, or even the 700 and its derivations. Sometimes what is new is old.

--Tom

 

[robgwisdala]

Sears has Eureka F&G bags for $10.99 for 15 bags.
Sears has Hoover A bags for $10.99 for 15 bags.
That is an excellent deal on bags!
I use the 3M Filtrete bags on my Kirby G3/Diamond Edition/Sentria and they work great!
In my opinion, The Kirby DOES NOT loose suction with the 3M Filtrete bags!

 

[robgwisdala]

3M Filtrete bags are available for these brands/models:
Hoover A/Z/Y
Eureka F&G
Kenmore/Panasonic uprights/canisters
Kenmore/Bissell ProLite uprights
Kirby G series uprights
And a few other brands/models that I forgot to mention.

 

[convertible68]

Hello

The new Hoover Constellation Type S HEPA bags are also made of material identical to the 3M Filtrete bags.
They could be included in that category as well.