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keiththomas

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Hi My hoover pure power has been patched up now and becomming worn out so time to move with the times. I got a Dyson which is fine but a cylinder, I looked at Dyson but I cannot justify spending £300.00 or abouts. I seen Morphy Richards No Loss of suction Dyson look a like, and another one a bit ugly. Also Vax Mach 8. I noticed a lot of Bagless machines are not that good. There is the Hoover Jazz or Globe others are poor. Which magaziine only recommends Dyson but too expensive my the occassional use.
 
Hi, There are some great machines in your price range. One machine I would definitely recommend is a AEG precision at currys for £160. I comes with a 2 yr guarantee and the cyclone tech is very efficient for what you pay. Its a lot better than a Hoover Globe or Jazz. I would also recommend a Morphy Richard Vorticity is £75. I will put a link in below. Fantastic machine, robust and very good cyclone tech for what you pay. I would suggest both machines as a good price. and a Panasonic MC-CL934 is pretty good to at £172.
Thanks, Josh
http://www.thesseshop.co.uk/p-3353-panasonic-mc-cl934-bagless-vacuum-cleaner.aspx

http://www.electricaldiscountuk.co....eaners/cylindervacuums/morphy-richards-71083/

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/home-a...acuum-cleaner-silver-purple-21558050-pdt.html
 
Sorry I wouldnt recommend the AEG.

The Vax Mach Air Reach is a good one and its currently on sale at Argos for £99. I might get one myself again, but only for my aunt who has the pets from hell. You can't beat Vax's 6 year guarantee, either.

I've had this vacuum before. It's pretty good but has the usual modern plastic pros and cons. Small dust bin capacity but at the same time its very lightweight, compact, easy to store and pretty easy to use. Hoover in the U.S have a similar model in their Windtunnel Air series.

The Reach model means you get an extra long hose that you don't have to use unless you do, 10 metre long cable and a turbo brush for pet hair or stairs. Everything you would need, really in a well thought out upright.


http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4066150.htm
 
Sorry I wouldnt recommend vax the filtration is terrible it doesn't not clean very well i had 1 years go i will never have one again hose is very short. the age is a completely sealed system i would suggest staying away from VAX.
 
When I had the VAX the filter So dirty extremely quickly the AEG Deep cleans the carpet fantastically.
 
Hi I have a Hoover Jazz Cylinder (Model TJA1410) & to be fair it is a good Vacuum with decent multi-cyclone technology for what you pay. I got mine for 60 pounds (sorry pound sign not working) which is a good deal but the price varies. It is usually about 99 pounds though. It comes with 1 year warranty but I managed to extend mine 5 years more with the Hoover 5 Year Parts & Labour Sheet downloable from the Hoover Website.

It is 1400 watts so not to energy guzzling & provides plenty of suction, it has a nice big bin (2L I think) so you don't need to empty that often, however I always empty after every use for hygiene reasons.

The only thing I would say is just to check the flter at the top of the bin on top of the multi-cyclone unit. I use the Jazz a few times a week & has to wash it after 1 & 1/2 months but it's not a big problem & it is easy to do.

I hope this helps. :)
 
In my long experience, there's virtually no difference between <span style="text-decoration: underline;">any</span> of the "No Loss of Suction" vacuums compared to Dyson. They may well have different names to distinguish each brand, but end of the day they're all Chinese made vacuums and all have similar hose measurements and motors. My Vax filters didn't require to be cleaned until after 6 or 7 months when used as a daily driver. After 2 years I eventually bought a new filter for it when a friend of mine was quite impressed with it - I eventually sold it to him.


 


The Vax has a pretty low 1200 watt motor as standard. The REACH model also has a 1.1 metre hose as standard but on top of that you get another 1.5 metres extension hose that stores on the machine. The bin capacity is 1.5 litres, so you're losing out a little cubic capacity over the AEG and Hoover.


 


However, the Vax is far easier to use and push than the Hoover Slalom that I bought to replace it.  Had the REACH been available at £99 I wouldn't have bought the Slalom. 


 


End of the day, I like a lightweight upright to push and not something that appears too bulky. Certainly if you want something as heavy as your Purepower, then go with the other models but to me, the Reach offers it all in terms of a cut price (now) upright that pretty much does what it says. If you want an upright with a long warranty, the Vax offers that as a sweet bonus.


 


Dyson Boy - do you actually own the AEG?? It doesn't appear to be listed in your collection on your profile on here. 
 
I agree with Sebo Fan

There is nothing wrong with the Vax Mach Air Reach. At 99 pounds, you cannot go wrong. I have been trying to get my parents to buy one as they are trying to use the Dyson DC05 that was purchased at the end of 2003. The wand handle is broken and is held into the wand with Sellotape lol

I bought a Vax Mach Air in 2010 when I was living with my now ex. I was pleasantly surprised at how good it was, not very noisy and felt as good as my Dyson DC24. I remembered my DC24 was starting its 'rattling brushbar syndrome' and I only had it for around 6 or 7 months at the time. I remembered using the Vax and saying to myself that it sounded a lot 'smoother' and slightly quieter in use.

Unfortunately because my ex and I separated, I never got to find out if the machine is still in use today. I know there was a problem with the brushbar not coming on and it apparently went back to John Lewis Oxford street for them to get Vax to fix it but again, I wasn't involved so never knew if was the truth or I was being lied to like everything else at the time.

I much prefer the Vax Mach Air over the Air3 anyday. It would have been nice for Vax to have designed the brushbar to be user removable as damage and wear and tear can occur on a brush and the fact the it's not user removable on the Mach Air is a mystery to me.

Overall great machine if you decide to go for it.

(p.s I typed this on my iphone so I apologise for any mistakes)
 
In my experience all Loss of suction machines are all different Like the Hoover slalom cyclones Let through hair And not dust And vax gives out a lot of fine dust That clogs the filter Dyson's latest cyclones Give out Nothing that's fantastic And yes I have got AEG And I've had VAX And Hoover Any machine you can think of Have you even got a vax? The hose on the vax Is very fiddly You have to connect a extension hoses the AEG The Hose is Built-in And it comes off with one push of a button And the poll is extremely long to In my view the aeg a lot better But it's up to What vacuum u Like
 
Another vote here for the Vax Mach Air Reach. Absolute bargain. The cyclone is not as efficient as the current Dyson filter, but still very efficient - similar to that of a DC04. The suction is great and the cleaner has some great features, such as the extension hose, brushroll on/off function for hard floors, easy access to the brushroll to clean. It's a lovely, lightweight machine too. The Vax also comes with a 6 year guarantee (as opposed to Dyson and Morphy Richards/Shark 5 years and AEG's 2 years).

Be careful with Vax cleaners, though. Only the models branded "no loss of suction" with the 6 year guarantee are worth owning. Any of the Power or Zoom models aren't worth knicker!
 
The thing with AEG's are they are only Dual Cyclone not Multi Cyclone I have the Nimble and although I love it the dust separation efficiency of the cyclone is no where near as good as my Dyson. My Multi Cyclonic Vax keeps it filter cleaner longer than the AEG.
 
I don't need to use the AEG when it weighs 7kg. It is far bulkier looking than the Vax Mach Air too. For an "occasional" use upright vacuum, the Vax is small enough to compete and when it offers so much for £99 when the "swivel" upgrade Air3 is obviously the model that is going to replace it before Vax bring out something else, the fixed position is a much better design IMHO.


 


I've owned the Vax Mach Air since it was released in the UK; when the Reach appeared in 2010, I bought that too. 


 


Though I prefer bagged uprights, I bought the Vax Mach Air originally when I lived away from home in a temporary year long job and it performed well. The short cord annoyed me to no end though.  I found the REACH model is far better and great for a medium to large home with new carpets or lots of pets to clear up after. 


 
 
@turbo500

Vax may advertise a 6 year warranty but only if it's registered within 14 days of purchase, if not it's only 1 year, and customers who have had vax aren't happy with them, and either go back to a Dyson or buy their first. Samsung advertise 5 years, but only if it's registered within 90 days.
It's also worth noting, Dyson's 5 year warranty is automatic and doesn't need registering, Dyson are able to date the machine via serial number
 
It's just how Dyson Machines are ALL plastic whereas the Vax Mach Air has an aluminium pole because I had one.
 
Its a bit more than what you like...

Well, its a bit more than that if you buy everything yourself and don't have lucky parents. 


 


Trying out these vacuums are all very well if you have a franchise company to go to where you can try them out. Not all brands will be available though.
 
I didn't mean it like that

I meant That's the machine That you would like to get And save up for And it's always best to try and test out the machine before you buy it Like you said some people don't have Companies where they Cannot test them. some machines Aren't available to view. I buy my machines by selling Doing up Dysons I'm selling some of my collection.
 
Dyson Boy, I do the same.

I am however saving up for a Dyson which I am going to purchase this year. I have wanted a new Dyson for a couple of years now & am interested in their technology.
 
Vax

I have both the Vax mach air and the mach air 3. The original mach air is a far superior vacuum compared to the air 3. With house of many cats and the dog I need something strong and reliable. The mach air is a solid built machine, the plastic doesn't warp in use, the filtration on mine is excellent, the multi cyclones work amazingly well and don't let the pet hair through to clog the filter, the multi tool is quite solid and in my videos on you tube you will see that even when crammed full if crap it still picks up. The air 3 is a different story The build quality is crap the plastic bends and distorts in use. It feels like parts will snap when using it, the cyclones are awfull I can only do half my lounge before I have to take it apart and clean the filters because it lets so much hair and dust through, the actuall handle is so flimsy compared to the mach air it also doesn't stay attached to the hose when using the tools, it's also quite heavy in use, the one good thing it has going for it, is the bristles on the brush roll are a lot stiffer. Oh yeah the multi tool Is crap as well they have taken the bristles from the duster brush and replaced them with awfull red bristles and reduced the amount by half. It really is a poorly designed machine
My air 3 has been replaced by Vax 3 times due to the machine and it's body failing.
This is my two penneth I just thought I'd share the pros and cons of both machines. One other thing on my mach air the extension hose is always attached. If you plug it in at the bottom and bring it up and over the the dust bin it doesn't get in the way. You can see this in my video as well





 
David - do you find that sometimes the Air3 doesn't lock up properly when the handle is made to go into the locked position after use? That was the main issue I found at Currys that put me off that model. Much prefer the simpler design of the Reach model.
 
I am not sure if they are available in the UK, but you might try to hunt down some of LG's new bagless uprights. In Consumer Reports testing, the LG Kompressor LuV350p actually performed better on carpets than any of the Dysons. Here is CR's summary of the vac's test results:

"Superb carpet cleaning makes this Kompressor model one of the best bagless uprights for carpets. You also get excellent bare-floor cleaning, along with a brush on/off switch (to safeguard bare floors and prevent scattered debris). And sure to its name, a revolving blade compresses what's in the bin for added capacity and easier emptying--though emptying a bagless vac's bin can be a dusty, messy chore. And airflow for tools was only mediocre. Among upright brands, LG has consistently been among the top performers over the past several years.

High Points

• Excels at removing embedded dirt from carpets
• Performs well when cleaning bare floors, ideal for kitchens, bathrooms, and hardwood floors
• Does well at picking up pet hair, useful if you have a cat or dog
• Excels at capturing all the dust it picks up, important if you have allergies or other respiratory illnesses
• Has a brush on/off switch, which safeguards bare floors and prevents scattering of dust and debris

Low Points
• Requires manually emptying the bin, which can be messy and sometimes presents problems for those with allergies or other respiratory issues
• Lacks a manual pile-height adjustment, which is better than automatic systems at matching the brush to the surface
• Lacks suction control, which helps protect drapes when using tools
• Maneuvering with swivel head feels heavy on the wrist "
 
@sebo fan

Yeah I do find the same problem, its a real pain in the ass When you think the handle is up and locked you turn away and the poxy thing crashes to the floor. It's actually really top heavy and quite hard sometimes to get it to click back in the upright position. The normal mach air is so much easier and so much more sturdy
David
 
I hope it comes to the UK, it and the cylinders look brilliant, much better than some of the rubbish we have at the moment.

I don't think it will be cheap Ry, it's $400 which in our money is around £300,not cheap and definitely in Dyson territory.
 
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