(1987) Dirt devil broom vac model 701.

[oldcrankman]

This is my dirt devil broom vac and it needs a lot of work. Broken fan, broken pulley for belt and probably a broken motor. I will try my best to get this going again.

 

[huskyvacs]

Great find! Those are really rare. It was the first model. I have one too. Make sure you document the model tag well for preservation, because they screwed up and used thermal sensitive carbon ink and it fades with time, and from motor heat. Mine is so faded I had to use a blacklight to read it.

 

[hoover300]

How is the belt pulley broken?
If the motor is bad, it can be swapped with the one from the handheld. Lower amperage but will still fit

 

[oldcrankman]

I got good news and bad news.

Good news is that the broom vac is in the shop and the bad news is my friend said the broom vac belt shaft may be locked up. So wish me luck he gets it fixed and in operating condition.

 

[huskyvacs]

If someone tried to pick up something wet with it, that is not surprising. Some people used them to vacuum their deck rugs and sunrooms. Most vacuums I find have not been run in 15-30 years so not unusual to have the motor stuck.

 

[oldcrankman]

Here's a better picture of it.

Hope it lives longer.

 

[oldcrankman]

Here's a video of the unit and some of the problems it h

 

[tolivac]

This thread on the DD broom vacuum-used to have one of these-it was a GREAT and powerful little vacuum!Could fit in areas where other dared to tread!But during a move the little vacuum got overlooked in the utility room closet.I still miss it-but haven't seen any good used ones.Bought the one I had at K-Mart.

 

[leoman04]

Oh my god what the hell happened?!

This is actually sad

 

[oldcrankman]

Don't worry Leo.

My friend will try his best to get it back up and running as normal and if he fails I will not give up on bringing this babe back to life.

 

[oldcrankman]

I was notified this machine was fixed

I don't know if it's official but I'll keep you guys updated.

 

[kirbyklekter]

Have the same

Was in storage for 15yrs. I think the bearing is drying up from non use, as it makes a metallic chatter noise when I turn it off. Looks brand new. All told it probably has maybe 5 hours of use on it. Looks 10, condition 8.5-9. Hope you can salvage it, they're kind of fun to have around.

 

[oldcrankman]

SHES ALIVE!!!!

She's fix and ready for use.

 

[oldcrankman]

Okay there is some spark action going on

I do smell something like burning I don't know if that's the sparks or if it hasn't been ran in a long time. My friend said they should both correct itself in the machine.

 

[huskyvacs]

Yes the carbon brushes, if they are new and have been replaced, have to hone themselves into the motor so you might notice an ozone like smell or blue sparks. This should clear up the longer it is used. Burning rubber smell would be coming from the belt, make sure it is installed correctly and is not slipping. If the belt is OK, it can also possibly be an old smell trapped in the motor from the last owner that is finally being blown out.

 

[oldcrankman]

Here's a video of it running.

Bet your all happy.https://youtu.be/Yqd5WMF9jxg

 

[oldcrankman]

Some of my friends saying it's a fire hazard.

I don't know if it is and if it's safe to use?

 

[oldcrankman]

So I notice the more I use it.

The sparks get more blue I hope that's a good sign.

 

[oldcrankman]

My friend got back to me and said.

That the carbon brushes are original and aren't new. I don't know if that changes the subject.

 

[huskyvacs]

If they weren't put back exactly how they were removed then yes it will spark like that, their shape and the amount of gap to the commutator has changed. Depending on how often you use it and the hardness of the carbons it will probably take several hours of use to clear up.

 

[oldcrankman]

Me and the boys ramming heads.

This is starting to go to far.

 

[oldcrankman]

I think it is probably time.

To probably replace the motor in the broom vac. I'm sorry but at this rate it probably needs to be done.

 

[huskyvacs]

IMO someone that has 40 years experience would be the person to listen to.

Orange sparks indicate bad connection point to the commutator. Blue sparks indicate a short circuit in the armature or commutator coil. Green sparks indicate the motor is overheating and dying.

Many motor repair videos on youtube will give you an idea of whats going on but the basic gist is bad connection point of the commutator to brushes.




Gadiel
3 years ago
all you have to do is just clean the brushes and the mating surface so that they can contact each other properly. make sure that the brushes can slide up and down freely and that the spring or whatever pushes down on the brushes are doing so properly. "

 

[oldcrankman]

I'd suspect my friend would of clean it up

But I don't know what I'll do with it yet. I mean yeah the brushes maybe dirty or uneven but I'll just use a DD 08100 handheld vac motor and fan for it. I know its not necessary but atleast the 08100 don't have sparking.

 

[oldcrankman]

Thinking about putting a 3 amp dirt devil handvac in my broom vac if it's possible.

 

[oldcrankman]

Yup, the original motor with its label saying it was made September 3, 1987.

 

[oldcrankman]

Broom vac is back in the shop

Dennis is gonna wire up the new motor for it, so I shouldn't see a reason for this one to arc, because the new motor doesn't arc.

 

[lesinutah]

Weird

That rug iirc was the same rug onery used on a couple royal vacuum videos.
I could be wrong but I'm just saying.
Close but not quite

 

[oldcrankman]

My friend says it's ready, wonder how it will perform now?