DesertTortoise
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Sounds like the D-M is worried the new vacs won't keep up with the messes the sports reporters leave in their office spaces.
Yet more utter garbage from The Daily Mail regarding EU vacuum laws
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spiraclean
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Which? subscribers should be demanding a lot better than this. Here they are basically advocating panic buying, which I always thought went against everything the Consumers' Association originally stood for. Wasn't there once a time when they encouraged their readers to employ a little critical thinking (e.g. questioning claims, researching and comparing) when making a major purchase, so as to help them spend their money wisely? I didn't always agree 100% with their product recommendations or slams, but at least the testing articles themselves provided a solid enough foundation for shoppers to know what attributes to look out for and why.
Of course, to find out what these Best Buy vacs we ought to be buying NOW are, one has to sign up for a subscription. Easy to do online, just a few clicks. Not so easy to cancel mind, you'll need to phone and speak to Which? in order to do that. As always, it's sensationalist bilge intended to keep the subscription £££ rolling in.
A fair few manufacturers aren't fully on board with these new regs, and are only complying under duress. Let's not also forget that an awful lot of manufacturers these days are happy to promote Which? by including their Best Buy status on their websites, and applying stickers to products on the assembly line. Something tells me such promotion would come to an abrupt halt if Which? actually had the balls say most vac manufacturers are only interested in advertising more watts than their competition, and hinting that they ought to put on their big girl panties and actually come up with something that performs as it should while meeting the new regs. Especially if they pointed out that some of their competitors (e.g. Numatic) had already done exactly that, ahead of time and without whinging to the press or TV about it.
Of course, to find out what these Best Buy vacs we ought to be buying NOW are, one has to sign up for a subscription. Easy to do online, just a few clicks. Not so easy to cancel mind, you'll need to phone and speak to Which? in order to do that. As always, it's sensationalist bilge intended to keep the subscription £££ rolling in.
A fair few manufacturers aren't fully on board with these new regs, and are only complying under duress. Let's not also forget that an awful lot of manufacturers these days are happy to promote Which? by including their Best Buy status on their websites, and applying stickers to products on the assembly line. Something tells me such promotion would come to an abrupt halt if Which? actually had the balls say most vac manufacturers are only interested in advertising more watts than their competition, and hinting that they ought to put on their big girl panties and actually come up with something that performs as it should while meeting the new regs. Especially if they pointed out that some of their competitors (e.g. Numatic) had already done exactly that, ahead of time and without whinging to the press or TV about it.
sebo_fan
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The problem I find, is that Which subscribers are often clueless. They won't demand anything, or if they do, Which turn a blind eye to it. Which know best and they won't stand down despite heavy criticism aimed at their report findings on their "member only forum."
I subscribed for a year and lost interest. The moment they tested the SEBO D2 and couldn't find the bag fill indicator was a case in point. Thereafter, they continually cut down "Best Buys" in certain Miele models just because they didn't have the upgraded filters. No change of floor head or motor, but suddenly a big change in testing performance. When, or if you are a Miele owner like I have been and had quite a few models pass through your hands, you'll know the salt from the pepper.
A filter upgrade does not improve performance. Which fail to recognise that.
There was almost a heavy uproar from Numatic owners too, when Which slated Henry. They failed to take into consideration that Henry is most widely used and failed to recognise key points on the vacuum cleaner. I recall the forum well; constant complaints to Which until they finally relented and tested the Henry again; but I still haven't seen that "new" report since unsubscribing...
There's a lot more discrepancies as time goes on when reading reports that they do, not just with vacuum cleaners. That's why I gave up on them.
Its about time there was another UK organisation who could take on Which. Perhaps only then, the company concerned would become a lot fairer and not be so controlling for consumer products and services.
I subscribed for a year and lost interest. The moment they tested the SEBO D2 and couldn't find the bag fill indicator was a case in point. Thereafter, they continually cut down "Best Buys" in certain Miele models just because they didn't have the upgraded filters. No change of floor head or motor, but suddenly a big change in testing performance. When, or if you are a Miele owner like I have been and had quite a few models pass through your hands, you'll know the salt from the pepper.
A filter upgrade does not improve performance. Which fail to recognise that.
There was almost a heavy uproar from Numatic owners too, when Which slated Henry. They failed to take into consideration that Henry is most widely used and failed to recognise key points on the vacuum cleaner. I recall the forum well; constant complaints to Which until they finally relented and tested the Henry again; but I still haven't seen that "new" report since unsubscribing...
There's a lot more discrepancies as time goes on when reading reports that they do, not just with vacuum cleaners. That's why I gave up on them.
Its about time there was another UK organisation who could take on Which. Perhaps only then, the company concerned would become a lot fairer and not be so controlling for consumer products and services.
adamthemieleman
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The daily fail website doesn't seem to be accepting my comment, must be too close to the bone. This is what I had to say, I'll post it here for your delight
''What really amazes me is how stupid people actually are. I think you all need to relearn physics, the principle of vacuum. I sell the things, and I am glad this is coming into effect. People who know about them like me, know it's the overall design which makes it powerful, not the motor.
Vacuums 20 years ago never had high wattages and no one ever whinged on then.
As for the reporter, I think you need to get down to the job centre, as journalism is not your forte. The daily fail is
laughable at this none news.''
''What really amazes me is how stupid people actually are. I think you all need to relearn physics, the principle of vacuum. I sell the things, and I am glad this is coming into effect. People who know about them like me, know it's the overall design which makes it powerful, not the motor.
Vacuums 20 years ago never had high wattages and no one ever whinged on then.
As for the reporter, I think you need to get down to the job centre, as journalism is not your forte. The daily fail is
laughable at this none news.''
adamthemieleman
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In fact some customer today had that article, I said to her the best place for it is in the bin!
vintagerepairer
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"As for the reporter, I think you need to get down to the job centre, as journalism is not your forte"
Maybe, but he/she is reporting in a way that the DM reader wants it to be reported. To that end, they are good at their job. I doubt the DM cares about anything. They just need to sell papers.
Maybe, but he/she is reporting in a way that the DM reader wants it to be reported. To that end, they are good at their job. I doubt the DM cares about anything. They just need to sell papers.
