Why clutched Dysons are bad for deep pile carpet

[parwaz786]

I have demonstrated (using my DC04 Absolute+) why clutched Dysons are only good for thin pile carpets. The carpet is approx 1/4 of an inch thick, and I have embedded a handful of washing powder into the depth of the carpet pile. I then gave the Dyson DC04 a good run over the same area, and there was still some remains. So therefore, I think the new DC41 will be good for this especially, the powerful suction and beating of the carpet!
Let me know what you think

 

[sebo_fan]

Good video - however I don't think that the brush roll alone is to blame.

What you seem to forget is that the Dyson DC04 shown and the model you also refer to which doesn't have the clutch fitted is the older Dyson design with fixed wheels at the back.

I know from personal experience that the more you stoop with the handle, the more the floor head digs into the carpet. This is the same kind of process I also found with the Panasonic Optiflow bagged upright vacuum last year.

If later models provide a far more consistent touch to carpet and thus allow more of the bristles to dig deeper, it may well be down to a combination of brush roll improvement AND the ball design with the smaller wheels.

 

[parwaz786]

True, because I am tall, like 5 ft 8, I vacuum and the handle is as upright as I can push it so it creates a seal with the suction to the floor
Glad you liked the video thanks

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

Oh. If 5'8 is tall, dunno what I am at 6'7 :3

Surely though it wouldn't make that much of a difference, no matter what pressure you put on it, considering the force will be at the wheels and not the head? I am not too sure, I can imagine that principle on a cylinder straight suction vacuum, but I have never used that model Dyson, so I would know. Good video by the way.

 

[parwaz786]

Thanks
Your right, the weight of the vacuum is on the wheels, which leaves the cleaner head to float around tHe surface of the carpet.
Infact my dyson DC05 burnt out yesterday in the middle of vacuuming up plaster dust, so today for £10, I got a Dyson D 14 origin which is honestly the best Dyson upright I used in years! It seals to the floor so well

 

[sptyks]

It would be impossible to burn out a Kirby by suckung up plaster dust. The Kirby motor has it's own cooling fan, so if the bag gets plugged up with plaster duist, the motor will still run cool.

 

[sebo_fan]

Here we go again with bloody Kirby. Why do we always have the mention of Kirby against Dyson??

Anyway, the fixed wheels on the back of the Dyson DC04 do ensure that the machine sits on a floor, but I found (and im 6ft) that I always had to stoop to ensure the brushes always hit the floor. Its the mechanism of the central hinge and the height level of the owner that has to ensure that the brush roll hit the carpet. I found it deeply annoying - especially when I found that the handle had to be low enough to remain constant with the floor.

In short it isn't always possible for consistent brush hitting pile cleaning with the DC04 unless you lower or increase the angle of the handle.

 

[citroenbx]

hi there will you put a new motor in that dyson dc05 if not you should put it on eBay

and let it have a new live or home because I do not like seeing old dyson been scraped

 

[parwaz786]

I am scrapping the DC95, it was in rubbish condition and I have now got a DC14 origin which is outstanding!
Thanks Sebofan I find a new internal hose helps with the self adjusting head in order for it to remain into contact with the floor at all times. A design flaw is that it loses its flexibility and then becomes stubborn, so the self adjusting head will lose contact with the floor when reclined, especially when reclined at a 45 degree + angle

 

[blakaeg]

Parwaz,

My Dyson DC03 & DC04 suffered with their belts stretching. Dyson claimed the belts didn't require replacing but those belts did slip. I didn't really get an issue with the pick up. The yellow DC04 Brush Control I had was quite a nice machine when it didn't have bits breaking.

 

[parwaz786]

Hi Blakaeg
I agree! I have this Dyso nDC04 Absolute+ and my mum has her DC04 silver lime which are both going strong
Btw very recently, just a few days before this video, I have replaced both belts on the clutch so that it works to its maximum potential as the machine was pretty much new. It works brilliantly, but struggles on thick pile carpets, and if I do try to push the cleaner head I to the carpet a little deeper, it jams the brushbar to make the ratchety noise

 

[super-sweeper]

LOL I thought you loved Dysons, not burned out their motors on plaster dust! Don't worry, even the mighty Fantom can fall to carpet fresh! 

 

[parwaz786]

Well FYI the DC05 has had a hard life, and. I used it for plaster dust and never washed the filter till it couldn't suck anymore, as long as it has enough suction to pick up plaster dust, and if it overheated, I don't care. Plus I was saying that the DC41 Mk2 would be suitable for this type of carpet. I do still like Dyson, but that's not to say I am bashing them.

 

[parwaz786]

Plus, people never wash DC01 filters for over five years, and they still have good suction, they just have sole plate blockages or the cable connection failure. The most common D c01 problem. Any Dyson can handle even shake and vac, and I would be happy to use it with any of my Dysons if they have UN clear bins...

 

[rolls_rapide]

Having used several Dysons, and various other bagged and bagless machines, I came to the conclusion that Dyson machines are not all they're purported to be.

I found them irritatingly awkward in use and rather stingy with the suction power (early DC07 excepted). And they certainly weren't designed for quiet use.

Recently, I had reason to use a friend's cheap Russell Hobbs bagless cylinder, and discovered it had a blockage/filter-check indicator, and variable power too. I was quite surprised.

 

[parwaz786]

I don't see how they are awkward to use, I think you will like the new 700W DC41 Mk2 with blue brushbar, it beats carpets and lifts them really well.
I like the hose and wand setup in a Dysons, the overall trend is that they have slowly improved. The DC01 wand was not once vac having the bit you hold as an end of the wand (eww) and then the DC04 has its own handle for you to hold it there only, then the. DC07 has a reversible wand, but that was slightly time consuming, the DC14 had a telescopic wand which was quick, now DC25 and newer ball models have a wand which is ready to use within two seconds by pulling them out.

The performance is okay, the DC14 models and onwards are great. I own an ex condition DC04 and it is pretty much perfect physically, and it isnt as good as my DC14 with bags and bags of suction!

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

I find Dyson to be probably the easiest vacuums to use in a matter of fact. All the buttons are up high, the telescopic tubes and hose are easy to get at and the tools are right where you need them.

However, on a wide scale, many vacuum manufacturers do not like you vacuuming up things like sawdust and fine powers like carpet fresh etc. Miele say this quite blatantly in their instruction manuals, that if you do suck anything like this up, you risk voiding the warranty.

 

[cb123]

Stan, your the man and part of the KIRBY plan...And you too, Alex!

 My Diamond KIRBY has sucked up acres and acres of Carpet Fresh and it hasn't coughed once. My oh my what a fantastic machine!

You can just about suck up anything with a mighty KIRBY. Have you ever heard about breaking the mold, I thank they did with the KIRBY, for what other vacuum should one have need of...Nothing else can come to mind.

 

[sebo_fan]

Yes, one can imagine paying for quite a machine that can pick anything up when it costs £1000 in the UK.

What else can you buy for £1000 in the UK? A Miele washing machine. One of those for me instead, please!