sebo_fan
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Apologies for the quality but here is a report dating from Which UK Magazine 1993 and later on 1996.
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Which April 1993 & 1996 Scans
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page 4 (you can see where Which got the photos wrong with the "Aqua Vac" and Hoover models using the same Vax machines).
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Similar cylinder/canisters page.
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Which April 1996
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beko1987
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Great read over breakfast! Odd to see Which NOT fawning over dyson just got the heck of it too back in the day (last page DC02)
turbo500
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Fantastic read, thanks for sharing Ryan! I love that the Sebo X1 and Hitachi Powerhouse uprights were awarded best buys - 2 of my favourites! Although the Hoover fans might not be best pleased about it lol.
sebo_fan
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The most surprising aspect for me is that the Hitachi, though a Japanese company chose Singapore to produce that vacuum cleaner in - early proof perhaps then a company chose another company for cheaper production costs - though not reflected in the performance and Which's testing.
I also remember the 1993 report well as my father was so impressed with the Vax Powa, this is exactly why we bought it, based on this report - but still had our classic Hoover Junior and later on, an Oreck XL in the home.
I also remember the 1993 report well as my father was so impressed with the Vax Powa, this is exactly why we bought it, based on this report - but still had our classic Hoover Junior and later on, an Oreck XL in the home.
thekirbylover
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I dont think thats a turbo power 2
I dont think thats a turbo power 2
sebo_fan
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You're right - they got the photos listed wrongly, as shown up again with the Vax/Aqua & Hoover tubs.
turbo500
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though a Japanese company chose Singapore to produce that va
the original Hitach CV50D was probably one, if not the sturdiest vacuums of the 1980's. That was also manufactured in Singapore
the original Hitach CV50D was probably one, if not the sturdiest vacuums of the 1980's. That was also manufactured in Singapore
ultimatevacman
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Thank you for sharing these Ryan! Very interesting 
Joe
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turbomaster1984
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Brilliant Ryan!
Provided mewith a good half hour of interesting reading to say the least.
Im not surprised that Hitachi beat the TP2's 3's 1000's as they are a much nicer cleaner to use.
They have the 'stick to the floor' performance that the Turbopower 1's had whereas I never felt the TP2 range did quite manage to vibrate the carpet on a cushion of air like its older brother's and thus not clean anywhere near as well.
My Mum had a later Hitachi Powerhouse 1300 that was a fantastic all round performer and tolerated the best part of 6 years heavy use in a heavy handed household.
It was only scrapped due to user error in that it was used to clean up plaster dust and decorating rubbish with a split bag. I tried my best to get the rubbish out but the motor eventually became shot.
The hose arrangement certainly seemed more convinient than hoovers with a comfy hose grip and sturdy tools. Tool storage was also infinitely better with the 2 most used tools stored at the top of the machine tucked behind the hose so they wouldnt fall off.
All in all a brilliant cleaner its easy to see why they beat the competition at the time.
I have a slightly earlier minty fresh version of the 1300 in our collection that is fantastic to use.
Provided mewith a good half hour of interesting reading to say the least.
Im not surprised that Hitachi beat the TP2's 3's 1000's as they are a much nicer cleaner to use.
They have the 'stick to the floor' performance that the Turbopower 1's had whereas I never felt the TP2 range did quite manage to vibrate the carpet on a cushion of air like its older brother's and thus not clean anywhere near as well.
My Mum had a later Hitachi Powerhouse 1300 that was a fantastic all round performer and tolerated the best part of 6 years heavy use in a heavy handed household.
It was only scrapped due to user error in that it was used to clean up plaster dust and decorating rubbish with a split bag. I tried my best to get the rubbish out but the motor eventually became shot.
The hose arrangement certainly seemed more convinient than hoovers with a comfy hose grip and sturdy tools. Tool storage was also infinitely better with the 2 most used tools stored at the top of the machine tucked behind the hose so they wouldnt fall off.
All in all a brilliant cleaner its easy to see why they beat the competition at the time.
I have a slightly earlier minty fresh version of the 1300 in our collection that is fantastic to use.
turbo500
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Rob, I couldn't agree with you more.
Hoover may have been unrivalled dirty fan cleaners, but by 1995 they couldn't compete with such high performing and far more convenient clean air machines. They were struggling to do so even before then.
Not only was the Turbo 2, 3 and 1000 ridiculously over priced, thet weren't a patch on Hoover's earlier machines and certainly not a patch on competition from Electrolux, Hitachi and Panasonic of the time.
Despite Hoover's success, from the 70's onwards they were always 1 step behind the competition. Put a 1980 Junior side by side with a Hitachi CV50, Lux 502s or Panasonic Jetflo and just look at how outdated it looks.
Times were changing and Hoover either couldn't or didn't want to keep up
Hoover may have been unrivalled dirty fan cleaners, but by 1995 they couldn't compete with such high performing and far more convenient clean air machines. They were struggling to do so even before then.
Not only was the Turbo 2, 3 and 1000 ridiculously over priced, thet weren't a patch on Hoover's earlier machines and certainly not a patch on competition from Electrolux, Hitachi and Panasonic of the time.
Despite Hoover's success, from the 70's onwards they were always 1 step behind the competition. Put a 1980 Junior side by side with a Hitachi CV50, Lux 502s or Panasonic Jetflo and just look at how outdated it looks.
Times were changing and Hoover either couldn't or didn't want to keep up
sebo_fan
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A few years ago someone gave me a Hitachi 1100 (OR it might have been 800) upright - pretty similar to the one shown on the Test start page of Which's 1996 but with a dark grey dial and no variable suction - the owner found that it "wasn't working as well as it should." Famous last words...
I agree Robert about the tools - very well placed and so well designed.
Getting parts for it was difficult though as the main front door had split and the brush roll was practically threadbare. When I glued up the door and used the upright the suction was tremendous but so much abuse had happened to it, it had to be turfed as it was impossible to get spares for it.
I agree Robert about the tools - very well placed and so well designed.
Getting parts for it was difficult though as the main front door had split and the brush roll was practically threadbare. When I glued up the door and used the upright the suction was tremendous but so much abuse had happened to it, it had to be turfed as it was impossible to get spares for it.
thekirbylover
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not a patch on competition from Electrolux
because the electrolux contour is far better than a turbopower 2...........[this post was last edited: 7/26/2013-14:36]
because the electrolux contour is far better than a turbopower 2...........[this post was last edited: 7/26/2013-14:36]
alexhoovers94
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"Although the Hoover fans might not be best pleased about it lol. " You can say that again!
But Ryan Thanks a bunch for uploading these to vacuumland, really appreciate it!!
But Ryan Thanks a bunch for uploading these to vacuumland, really appreciate it!!
alexhoovers94
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I have used a Hitachi Powerhouse...
They are quite a nice vacuum but I much prefer the Turbopower 2, it has a far better quality sounding motor and a better brushroll, it may be heavier to use and carry but I think it is higher performing than the Powerhouse.
I don't understand this thing people have with the tools falling off a Turbo 2 because it is a slight effort to push them into there little "garages".
Also, I noticed that the Powerhouse was £20 cheaper than the Turbopower 2 which is hardly a difference really to put someone off when they are buying into a top selling brand.
They are quite a nice vacuum but I much prefer the Turbopower 2, it has a far better quality sounding motor and a better brushroll, it may be heavier to use and carry but I think it is higher performing than the Powerhouse.
I don't understand this thing people have with the tools falling off a Turbo 2 because it is a slight effort to push them into there little "garages".
Also, I noticed that the Powerhouse was £20 cheaper than the Turbopower 2 which is hardly a difference really to put someone off when they are buying into a top selling brand.
turbomaster1984
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whos responding here? you ?
Higher performing?
The results above tell you which is higher performing and they concur with what I have found.
Are you sure?
Better quality sounding motor? What hooey. How do you decide what makes a quality sound? The Hitachi makes no difference in quietness at 1300/1100w to a TP2 on full power.
Better brushroll? defined by what?
The tools are easy to push onto a TP2 but they are friction fit with plastic clips that could and did snap off. The Hitachi relied on a friction fit which was aided by the hose keeping them in place too. The upholstery tool had a pocket to actually slot into.
And 15 years ago £20 was 5 to 6 hours wages to a worker on minimum wage standards so it WAS alot of money.
Higher performing?
The results above tell you which is higher performing and they concur with what I have found.
Are you sure?
Better quality sounding motor? What hooey. How do you decide what makes a quality sound? The Hitachi makes no difference in quietness at 1300/1100w to a TP2 on full power.
Better brushroll? defined by what?
The tools are easy to push onto a TP2 but they are friction fit with plastic clips that could and did snap off. The Hitachi relied on a friction fit which was aided by the hose keeping them in place too. The upholstery tool had a pocket to actually slot into.
And 15 years ago £20 was 5 to 6 hours wages to a worker on minimum wage standards so it WAS alot of money.
alexhoovers94
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HA...please!
turbomaster1984
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I beg your pardon?
turbomaster1984
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Remeber Which? was testing BRAND NEW from the box cleaners to test.
Saying you have used one is irrelevant unless you tested a new TP2 and a new Hitachi.
Was the belt on the Hitachi in good condition, was the brushroll?
Were the filters clean? What state was the bag in?
Too many variables - come back and diss when you have tested like for like!
Saying you have used one is irrelevant unless you tested a new TP2 and a new Hitachi.
Was the belt on the Hitachi in good condition, was the brushroll?
Were the filters clean? What state was the bag in?
Too many variables - come back and diss when you have tested like for like!
