What happened to "vintagehoover" ?
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super-sweeper
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The young wouldn't know true quality if it bookfaced them a selfie! Well, the stereotype 'gotta be better than everyone and buy new stuff all the time' young, anyhow! I'm sure there's people out there who won't let that ideal upright go for the latest trends, if it ain't broke don't fix it!
oliveoiltinfoil
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Oh yeah, "sturdier". That's why dyson perform all of those durability tests to make sure their products really are tough, and are prepared to replace your hose if it splits, under warranty, which is 5 years, not 2 years as you get with Miele, and not the 5 year you get with Sebo who are not interest din helping you (my mothers X1 developed a fault regarding staying upright, I managed to fix it as Sebo kept throwing s back to who we got it from, and so on)
I find the new dysons very tough and durable to be honest. I have a sebo felix, and it is a well made machine, but the dyson feels like it can take more of a beating. I really am not just saying that for the sake of it either.
And I am sorry, that is a very broad statement "The young wouldn't know true quality if it bookfaced them a selfie". Be careful what you say because there are people on this thread who fall into that category you just said.
There are some very hostile people on this site. Have you opinion by all means but do it in a mature fashion.
I find the new dysons very tough and durable to be honest. I have a sebo felix, and it is a well made machine, but the dyson feels like it can take more of a beating. I really am not just saying that for the sake of it either.
And I am sorry, that is a very broad statement "The young wouldn't know true quality if it bookfaced them a selfie". Be careful what you say because there are people on this thread who fall into that category you just said.
There are some very hostile people on this site. Have you opinion by all means but do it in a mature fashion.
vintagerepairer
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Oh you can't beat a little bit of irony first thing in the morning.
ultimatevacman
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<a name="start_26781.300198"></a>"The young wouldn't know true quality if it bookfaced them a selfie! Well, the stereotype 'gotta be better than everyone and buy new stuff all the time' young, anyhow!"
Super-sweeper, do you have a phobia of Facebook or something? It's fine being old fashioned but it doesn't mean you should try and put everyone down who isn't!
Joe
Super-sweeper, do you have a phobia of Facebook or something? It's fine being old fashioned but it doesn't mean you should try and put everyone down who isn't!
Joe
vintagerepairer
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Once upon a time, the was a village where everything was heard and read in context. The villagers were so busy with their lives and they had no time at all to hunt down things to be offended at. And they all lived happily ever after.
super-sweeper
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I didn't mean my reply in that way,I was referring to the generation who buy things cheap, complains when it breaks, and then buys a new one. Thankfully, not everyone is like that, but sadly most people are! Otherwise, we would have a lot more repair shops around.
ultimatevacman
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Sorry Super-sweeper, I see what you mean now. Thanks for clearing that up
Benny, I wasn't "hunting" for something to get offended at, I just mis-read Super-sweeper's post, I didn't mean to upset anyone, and if I did, my apologies.
Benny, I wasn't "hunting" for something to get offended at, I just mis-read Super-sweeper's post, I didn't mean to upset anyone, and if I did, my apologies.
sebo_fan
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SS: Please stop trying to minimise everything down to a cheap-build & buy generation. It is the Americans who continually promoted the art of selling as well as continually replacing stuff with the "next best thing." Infact, it is America where most labour saving devices were known to come from. You had to have it, otherwise you'd be left to the kerb.
The reason that most repair shops have gone under is down to the Internet, my friend - nothing to do with a light build, secondary quality from brands. Lots of brands may well be producing plastic tat with a high price, but they were doing that in the 1970s when plastic became the new texture. Meanwhile the 'Net has brought pros and cons, a pro for the owner because parts & spares are cheaper to obtain against a inconvenience to the private repairer who can no longer slap a marked up price and make a profit.
The reason that most repair shops have gone under is down to the Internet, my friend - nothing to do with a light build, secondary quality from brands. Lots of brands may well be producing plastic tat with a high price, but they were doing that in the 1970s when plastic became the new texture. Meanwhile the 'Net has brought pros and cons, a pro for the owner because parts & spares are cheaper to obtain against a inconvenience to the private repairer who can no longer slap a marked up price and make a profit.
super-sweeper
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1970s plastics are 19.2 miles apart from today. Many have made it into the new millennium, and continue to perform to this day. Today's plastics barely last throughout the warranty period (excluding a few brands, of course). Yes, the saving of labor is the American way, but there comes a time where too much labor is saved. Sure,a self-propelled lawnmower makes your job easier, but you do not need a robot super-mower when you're perfectly fine doing it themself. At what point did I say that Americans were void to my Above comment? If anything, we're one of the most affected.
How does the internet harm repair shops? I'm not sure how you're going to get the VCR fixed with the internet. I can see how the internet is ruining the mystical Department Store thanks to online shopping, but your comment fails to make sense to me, for now at least.
How does the internet harm repair shops? I'm not sure how you're going to get the VCR fixed with the internet. I can see how the internet is ruining the mystical Department Store thanks to online shopping, but your comment fails to make sense to me, for now at least.
sebo_fan
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Do you know what exists on the Internet?
Oh my goodness me. Please open your eyes.
There are plenty of U.S based sites that are helping consumers fix their products in the home. From "eKnow," to Fixya.com, plenty of sites exist and have existed from the start of the 'Net age that gives consumers blueprints and service answers on how to repair their vacuums and other products.
Including your VCR example. You'd be surprised just how many people in the world have been affected by recession and how many would now open the dusty tool box to fix what they have rather than replace it. Or get a family friend who might be more tech minded to repair for free.
Furthermore, they are far more forums and repair sites that show consumers how to repair what they have. Trade sites are also allowing the general domestic owner to buy in parts that are cheaper than what repairers would charge.
When it came to replacing the door on my tumble dryer, the local repairer advised ME to order in the part as it would have been cheaper rather than if he ordered it. He even showed me how to replace the door - without a charge. Simples!
Oh my goodness me. Please open your eyes.
There are plenty of U.S based sites that are helping consumers fix their products in the home. From "eKnow," to Fixya.com, plenty of sites exist and have existed from the start of the 'Net age that gives consumers blueprints and service answers on how to repair their vacuums and other products.
Including your VCR example. You'd be surprised just how many people in the world have been affected by recession and how many would now open the dusty tool box to fix what they have rather than replace it. Or get a family friend who might be more tech minded to repair for free.
Furthermore, they are far more forums and repair sites that show consumers how to repair what they have. Trade sites are also allowing the general domestic owner to buy in parts that are cheaper than what repairers would charge.
When it came to replacing the door on my tumble dryer, the local repairer advised ME to order in the part as it would have been cheaper rather than if he ordered it. He even showed me how to replace the door - without a charge. Simples!
super-sweeper
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oh, I see what you mean now! Thanks for clearing that up for me!
ultimatevacman
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Are you trying to mock my previous message, SS?
sebo_fan
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No, I think he was responding to my example that the Internet isn't always for buying vacs, but rather provides a helpful FREE DIY service in how to repair things without paying out for costs AND reiterates one of the main reasons to why independent repair shops no longer exist.
One aspect of the internet is frustrating. Many items you would like to see in person before you buy are almost impossible to find in any store. The items exist and can be bought at very reasonable prices on line, but few if any stores actually stock the item so you can see it first. There are a couple of vacuum cleaner lines that fall into this category.
sebo_fan
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Seeing and feeling are two very different things though. There are shops in the UK where you purchase " as seen" from a catalogue but what you might get in the hand may be entirely different to what you see in the catalogue. The Internet is the same.
However, if you know what you are looking for, the Internet serves its purpose better.
However, if you know what you are looking for, the Internet serves its purpose better.
super-sweeper
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As seen from a catalogue, eh? All you need to do is walk up to the cashier with your item number!
sebo_fan
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Yes but like almost all labour saving devices and things, it was probably in the U.S where catalogue shops first popped up.
