What Did Any Of You Think Of The DC01 When It Was Released?

[alexhoovers94]

I am surprised the Turbopower 2's were as popular as they were because they came out in 1992 and the DC01 was proven popular in the mid 90s.
The turbopower 2 would of only been best sellers for 3 or 4 years before the Dyson took off.
It annoys me how the brand Hoover everyone loved and trusted for there exceptional performance was pushed aside for a Dyson DC01 cleaner that would not of cleaned carpet much better than a Ewbank sweeper with a dustbuster stuffed into the head of it.

I wish Hoover would of teamed with Dyson and not be so ignorant to there profit they were making from bags, when they were already making permabag models that eliminated bags anyway.

The only thing that sold the DC01 in my opinion was that you could see what the vacuum was picking up, which would of looked like it was picking up lots and lots of dirt when in actual fact the dirt spinning around was filled with pockets of air just like cream does when you whisk it up.
If Dson made the same DC01, but you could not see the dirt, I think it would not of sold as well as it did.

 

[jmurray01]

Thing is through Alex, the Permabag system didn't really take off and after a short while people threw the messy clogged thing away and started buying the superior paper bags.

The Permabag was just a selling point that people would see as a God send initially, but after cleaning it out a few times would just spend a Pound or two on a pack of disposable bags from the local vacuum shop to save the trouble!

 

[vintagerepairer]

My ex-wife used to use paper bags in her Turbopower 3, but I don't think that many permabag owners did such a thing. I can only speak of the models I had in for repair and didn't see a paper bag in the permabag models. I think they are more scarce as production of those models was shorter than the bagged versions of the TP2 which went on for a good deal of years.

 

[jmurray01]

Well I was just speaking from what I thought would be common sense (though, I've learned a lot of people don't have that virtue) and the fact I've seen a good deal of Turbopowers for sale with "Permabag" written on the bag door but paper bags, or indeed no bags on occasion, fitted.

 

[ryry_87]

'That's if your pocket money will stretch to it, or

hope that wasn't a poke at me Jamie? lol

 

[jmurray01]

Oh no-no Ryan, of course not, I wouldn't say that to somebody like you.

It was a "poke" at Scaniabebe who is a troll to my belief. Why would I make that assumption ? Well, you'd have had to speak to him privately and hear some of the crap that comes out of his mouth.

On one hand he was enjoying the sun with "the wife" and literally 15 minutes later he said to me she had Skin Cancer. Yes, those two really correlate don't they ?

Then he talks about buying cars on eBay for him and his "ten friends" to drive around in, but of course the only images he could produce were links to the completed listings and current listings of cars he was "going to buy". When I asked to see actual pictures of the cars in his possession, he said he didn't have any and clammed up.

Oh and of course there was the "plug stuck in the socket" incident where he apparently managed (God knows how) to get the plug of his Numatic James jammed in the socket and got an electrician out to remove it. Then what did he say ? He would have to buy a whole new flex for the James. Why do that when you could just cut the old plug off and put a new one on ? Absolutely ludicrous.

He truly is either a crackpot or a troll, maybe a bit of both.

So I'll say again, it was not a dig at you, I apologise if it sounded like such.

 

[ryry_87]

lol no worries

 

[sebo_fan]

Um.. the only thing about "quality aspirations," way back when Dyson was launched was that consumers weren't really interested in quality - we were still going on marketing promises like high power, high motors and dust capacity. The only aspect of quality that people who had seen Dyson machines were repairers or those working within the industry of selling vacuums. When Dyson came along, although undoubtedly pushed along in a few years with the suction power mantra, Dyson brought back glitter to the plastic surfaces and oh how they all copied Dyson after that! 

 

[vintagerepairer]

I would certainly agree that consumers did not go looking for quality in a vacuum cleaner, but I do think they still expected a certain standard. It was a good deal of years after the launch before anyone brought me a Dyson to be repaired, because they came with a two year guarentee as standard. All I know about the quality was based on what I had seen when looking in shops and hearing what my customers who owned one said about them when they came in to buy bits and peices from me.

As for the glitter, I always considered Hoover to be the one who started that off around 1991 with thier glittery new Turbopower Total System cleaners.

 

[sebo_fan]

1991 eh for Hoover? I always imagined it was the other way around. I never looked closely at my Turbopower Total but it certainly didn't have glitter to the plastics - that came later on the TP2 and 3 series. The Autosense model had glitter.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Yes, and so did the top Turbopower total system cleaners. The Freedom bagless models were the most notable, but there were shades of dark blue, dark green, and dark red in the bagged cleaners.

 

[vintagerepairer]

There is a green one pictured in a message here, so I found. They say it was a German cleaner in this case but I know the UK had similar.

http://www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?3750

 

[sebo_fan]

Whilst I liked the DC01, at the time I felt the far more conventional and far lighter Hoovers I had were much better just to use from a usage point of view - the big floor head on the DC01 was a case in point. Great for cleaning carpets but couldn't get flat to the floor as there was too much height on that main floor head.


 


Also the tool storers at the back were a bit cheap - having the option to slide a dusting brush on top of a crevice tool and then on the other side, with the flat upholstery tool locked on- might have been handy when used for car cleaning if you are bending down anyway and have the tools to hand - but I much preferred the flush fitting design of Hoover's TP2 & 3 series where the tools had their own recesses and was far more flush.


 


 

 

[jmurray01]

I agree the tool storage of the Turbopower 2/3 were exceptionally well designed for ease of use yet without the risk of them falling out during use and getting lost.

 

[sebo_fan]

Yep and the TPs also cleaned flat to the floor without much getting in the way.


 


It seems to be the case, sadly for a lot of bagless uprights on the market who persist in offering bagless, round bins 19 years on.. Morphy Richards' Clarity is about the only bagless upright I can think of that has a squarish bin, but even the pivot below the floor head restricts true flat to the floor cleaning.

 

[alexhoovers94]

I agree the tools on the turbopower 2/3 are much more accessible, than a DC01, however, I found them to be hard to click in and pull out, but I guss it helps them not to fall out.
The totalsystem turbopowers onboard tools were much easier to take off and put back on, yet didn't fall out.
I don't really like the purepowers but they have easy access tools.

 

[sebo_fan]

Well I think we can agree then that in both cases, Hoover's design was far more efficient and versatile, but at the same time, it wasn't exactly new having flush fitting recesses on the rears of uprights, especially if you owned any of the Sebo uprights, or Panasonic.

 

[alexhoovers94]

Well at least with the turbopower 2 all the tools you would ever need were located at the back, rather than having some at the back, some on the side or some on the front, like sebo and panasonic.
I like how Hoovers turbopower 2/3 had seperate tools for each job at the back of the machine along with the hose in one neat and convenient place.