Hey John
I'm thinking of picking one up on pay day if they have any left. If so, it'll be my third Hoover.
I'm thinking of picking one up on pay day if they have any left. If so, it'll be my third Hoover.
What BRAND NEW vacuum do you want?
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djtaylor
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My thoughts on Kirby...
Does Kirby still make that Hose End with the sliding speed selector? I have one on my GSix and I think it makes the Zip Brush easier to use and clean better. I'd like to put one on my mom's G3, and should I ever get a Sentria I'd put one on it as well.
As for the Speed Switches on the Diamond, there was the standard Speed Switch on the front of the vacuum as was one earlier G-Type machines. There was a second Speed Switch on the top-rear of the machine(I think it had a light inside). It was there so someone could lower the speed of the machine when vacuuming a delicate rug. I was told that it was removed when Kirby introduced the Sentria because of motor burn-outs, whoever, if that were the case I think I'd see rather a lot of Diamonds sitting in junk stores, pawn shops and the like... which I don't.
I suspect that the reason for so many Sentrias being traded-in or replaced is the weight issue. I love Kirbys and would never go with out one... or several, but they are not easy to use if you have not grown up with them. They are way too heavy, when I lived in a two story house I had to have one upstairs and one downstairs because I did not like to carry them up and down... and what was before my heart gave out and limited the amount of weight that I can carry. That said, I still want a Sentria and when the next Kirby comes out, and if it meets with my approval, then I will want one of those too.
Justin
Does Kirby still make that Hose End with the sliding speed selector? I have one on my GSix and I think it makes the Zip Brush easier to use and clean better. I'd like to put one on my mom's G3, and should I ever get a Sentria I'd put one on it as well.
As for the Speed Switches on the Diamond, there was the standard Speed Switch on the front of the vacuum as was one earlier G-Type machines. There was a second Speed Switch on the top-rear of the machine(I think it had a light inside). It was there so someone could lower the speed of the machine when vacuuming a delicate rug. I was told that it was removed when Kirby introduced the Sentria because of motor burn-outs, whoever, if that were the case I think I'd see rather a lot of Diamonds sitting in junk stores, pawn shops and the like... which I don't.
I suspect that the reason for so many Sentrias being traded-in or replaced is the weight issue. I love Kirbys and would never go with out one... or several, but they are not easy to use if you have not grown up with them. They are way too heavy, when I lived in a two story house I had to have one upstairs and one downstairs because I did not like to carry them up and down... and what was before my heart gave out and limited the amount of weight that I can carry. That said, I still want a Sentria and when the next Kirby comes out, and if it meets with my approval, then I will want one of those too.
Justin
The Kirby DE
was indeed a four-speed machine. The switch on the back selected, in essence one of two speed RANGES. Just use a pen to activate the speed selector switch through all four possible combinations NORMAL-nozzle, NORMAL-hose, LOW-nozzle, LOW-hose and you can hear four distinct pitches. I doubt this was intentional, but it is what they ended up making.
was indeed a four-speed machine. The switch on the back selected, in essence one of two speed RANGES. Just use a pen to activate the speed selector switch through all four possible combinations NORMAL-nozzle, NORMAL-hose, LOW-nozzle, LOW-hose and you can hear four distinct pitches. I doubt this was intentional, but it is what they ended up making.
How would the DE know whether the hose or the nozzle was attached? Both of these attachments have the same gizmo that protrudes into the base when attached? What are referring to when you say 'pen to activate the speed selector switch'?
Gary
Gary
rainbowjoel
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like this
Hi and low switch for hose.
http://www.goodvac.com/Variable_suction_blower_G5_SE_p/k-prt-att-211397s.htm
Hi and low switch for hose.
http://www.goodvac.com/Variable_suction_blower_G5_SE_p/k-prt-att-211397s.htm
I got an answer from Kirby
I posted the following query on Kirby's Facebook page:
Hi!, I own three Kirbys, 1) Sanitronic VII, 2) Ultimate G Diamond Edition, and 2) Sentria. I used to be a Kirby dealer selling the Tradition and the Heritage, as well as managing our local area distributorship service department back in the early 80s.. So I have a little Kirby experience
I have a question regarding the UG DE. I know all Kirbys from the DS 50 through the present are two speed machines. My question is would that make the UG DE a four speed machine, with the gentle switch this machine has? Thanks for any help.
This is what they responded:
Kirby Company Hi Joe. Thanks for the message. The Diamond Edition does have four speeds -- two for the upright nozzle and two for the hose mode. We hope you had a great experience as a dealer and service technician. Thanks for being part of the Kirby family!
If you go to www.kirby.com, and click on US page, and then click on the Facebook icon on top of page, you will go to Kirby's facebook page.
Joe
I posted the following query on Kirby's Facebook page:
Hi!, I own three Kirbys, 1) Sanitronic VII, 2) Ultimate G Diamond Edition, and 2) Sentria. I used to be a Kirby dealer selling the Tradition and the Heritage, as well as managing our local area distributorship service department back in the early 80s.. So I have a little Kirby experience
I have a question regarding the UG DE. I know all Kirbys from the DS 50 through the present are two speed machines. My question is would that make the UG DE a four speed machine, with the gentle switch this machine has? Thanks for any help.This is what they responded:
Kirby Company Hi Joe. Thanks for the message. The Diamond Edition does have four speeds -- two for the upright nozzle and two for the hose mode. We hope you had a great experience as a dealer and service technician. Thanks for being part of the Kirby family!
If you go to www.kirby.com, and click on US page, and then click on the Facebook icon on top of page, you will go to Kirby's facebook page.
Joe
So last night I tested out my UG and sure enough it has 4 speeds. I never knew that there are 2 different buttons that get depressed depending on whether the hose or the nozzle is being attached. When attaching the hose, the top button is depressed and when attaching the nozzle the bottom button gets depressed so along with the 2 speed switch that makes for 4 speeds. Learn something new every day!
Gary
Gary
djtaylor
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Thanks Rainbowjoel.
Justin
Justin
DysonKing474
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Which one
well i really want a dyson DC40 all flooors, i have a 15 which i love, i really want a kirby G3, and the sebo felix is the one id choose
well i really want a dyson DC40 all flooors, i have a 15 which i love, i really want a kirby G3, and the sebo felix is the one id choose
durango159
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In response to Pdieten about Spinscrub.
The newer Hoovers are saying Spinscrub 50, Spinscrub 45 and other numbers, I don't know if that number corresponds to any speed difference or if its just a name. It depends mostly on the series. The original series uses direct turbine power and is supposed to be very reliable. I think the spinscrub on that does a good job. Yes the bristles are extremely soft and if could be a little harsher, and spin faster for more agitation, also the brush head floats, so if it was more stationary that also would help, the main I think it needs is a PSI rated sprayer. It seems more of a mist of solution coming out so the machine I think does more surface to mid cleaning and perhaps not as good deep down cleaning.
The V2 line focuses suction more with the nozzle. The brush turbine is belt powered I've heard and overall not nearly as a reliable a cleaner to original series. I know some vac shops that do not sell the V2/ All Terrain series.
The Platinum looks like a good cleaner, it uses spin scrub and a multi brush vacuum style agitator for scrubbing along with I believe a better spray. Warranty is good, but I'm not sure about overall build quality. The Platinum line in general has great warranty but quality in that line especially sadly I've heard that canister has major issues with controls in the hose. I say sadly cause I love canisters. I'm not an upright person.
Finally is the Pressure Pro series. I've heard mixed thoughts on these. When they work cleaning is supposed to be good. The idea here is when they work- not leaking or otherwise.
The Agility and other lines are just cheaps to me, I pay attention only to the larger series. I have an original series Steamvac Widepath. I am happy with it. I do my annual shampooings with it. For better cleaning I'd go with Stanley Steemer or one of the professional style machines for $1000+. The Bissells are unreliable.
I rented a Rug Doctor Widepath a few years ago. I thought it was the worst cleaner I'd ever used. Absolutely horrible. I only did one room with it. The next day I rented a RinsenVac from my local vacuum store and shampooed all 3 floors of the townhouse I was renting with it. I even redid the room i ran the rugdoctor in. Much better results.
The newer Hoovers are saying Spinscrub 50, Spinscrub 45 and other numbers, I don't know if that number corresponds to any speed difference or if its just a name. It depends mostly on the series. The original series uses direct turbine power and is supposed to be very reliable. I think the spinscrub on that does a good job. Yes the bristles are extremely soft and if could be a little harsher, and spin faster for more agitation, also the brush head floats, so if it was more stationary that also would help, the main I think it needs is a PSI rated sprayer. It seems more of a mist of solution coming out so the machine I think does more surface to mid cleaning and perhaps not as good deep down cleaning.
The V2 line focuses suction more with the nozzle. The brush turbine is belt powered I've heard and overall not nearly as a reliable a cleaner to original series. I know some vac shops that do not sell the V2/ All Terrain series.
The Platinum looks like a good cleaner, it uses spin scrub and a multi brush vacuum style agitator for scrubbing along with I believe a better spray. Warranty is good, but I'm not sure about overall build quality. The Platinum line in general has great warranty but quality in that line especially sadly I've heard that canister has major issues with controls in the hose. I say sadly cause I love canisters. I'm not an upright person.
Finally is the Pressure Pro series. I've heard mixed thoughts on these. When they work cleaning is supposed to be good. The idea here is when they work- not leaking or otherwise.
The Agility and other lines are just cheaps to me, I pay attention only to the larger series. I have an original series Steamvac Widepath. I am happy with it. I do my annual shampooings with it. For better cleaning I'd go with Stanley Steemer or one of the professional style machines for $1000+. The Bissells are unreliable.
I rented a Rug Doctor Widepath a few years ago. I thought it was the worst cleaner I'd ever used. Absolutely horrible. I only did one room with it. The next day I rented a RinsenVac from my local vacuum store and shampooed all 3 floors of the townhouse I was renting with it. I even redid the room i ran the rugdoctor in. Much better results.
durango159
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New vacuum thougts
I like canisters so it has to be that.
I've tried the Hoover Anniversary Windtunnel. Its good, I was hoping they'd put the newer Windtunnel powerhead on a bagged canister, they haven't. The hose on the anniversary machine is awful--stiff and hard to use. Otherwise a good cleaner.
I got a used Riccar 1700 canister. I thought one of these was going to be mine dream machine. I like it, it cleans good, but I think there's better out there. Its heavy, its hard to maneuver, doesn't run over its own wheels, too many push buttons on hose handle and each time you turn it on, you have to reset the speed you want and turn on the powerhead. I think the agitator cavity should have a wider opening. I think its just too narrow for good suction seal and airflow time grabbing dirt on the rug. Also now CenTec is making the powerheads, they eliminated the Chevron brushroll. I'd like to try the Chevron wood brushroll. Has anyone used one of these? How do you like them.
I do want a Royal Lexon SR30020 looks nice. I tried one in a vacuum store and glides so easily over the carpet but there's good power. Looks good on some youtube videos.
Everyone talks great about Sebo. I tried several in a hotel they were awful. Maybe the maintenance staff just wasn't keeping up on them and I need to try a new one? The power nozzles on the youtube videos sound wierd and lame, just strange sounding motors. And Mieles I'm curious about but skeptical. The new Wessel Werk power heads coming on them that people rave about, are they really that good? Theres no bars on the bottom for keeping area rugs or extra base support. Wierd how its all open. I'm very interested in opinions on this.
I really wish Hoover or Eureka went back to their 1980 routes with RotoMatic, Quadraflex Powermatics and created something neat and exciting again
Thanks
I like canisters so it has to be that.
I've tried the Hoover Anniversary Windtunnel. Its good, I was hoping they'd put the newer Windtunnel powerhead on a bagged canister, they haven't. The hose on the anniversary machine is awful--stiff and hard to use. Otherwise a good cleaner.
I got a used Riccar 1700 canister. I thought one of these was going to be mine dream machine. I like it, it cleans good, but I think there's better out there. Its heavy, its hard to maneuver, doesn't run over its own wheels, too many push buttons on hose handle and each time you turn it on, you have to reset the speed you want and turn on the powerhead. I think the agitator cavity should have a wider opening. I think its just too narrow for good suction seal and airflow time grabbing dirt on the rug. Also now CenTec is making the powerheads, they eliminated the Chevron brushroll. I'd like to try the Chevron wood brushroll. Has anyone used one of these? How do you like them.
I do want a Royal Lexon SR30020 looks nice. I tried one in a vacuum store and glides so easily over the carpet but there's good power. Looks good on some youtube videos.
Everyone talks great about Sebo. I tried several in a hotel they were awful. Maybe the maintenance staff just wasn't keeping up on them and I need to try a new one? The power nozzles on the youtube videos sound wierd and lame, just strange sounding motors. And Mieles I'm curious about but skeptical. The new Wessel Werk power heads coming on them that people rave about, are they really that good? Theres no bars on the bottom for keeping area rugs or extra base support. Wierd how its all open. I'm very interested in opinions on this.
I really wish Hoover or Eureka went back to their 1980 routes with RotoMatic, Quadraflex Powermatics and created something neat and exciting again
Thanks
vacuumfreak95
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My Long list.....
I want a Panasonic JetSpin Upright, Kirby Sentria, Sebo X4, Hoover Windtunnel Self Propelled, Kenmore Intuition Upright, Hoover platinum collection lightweight upright, Riccar Vibrance with onboard tools, Electrolux Nible, Miele Capricorn, Dyson DC41, Sanitaire Upright, Royal Metal Upright, and a Rug Doctor Mighty Pro X3. That's my long list that will never come true.
I want a Panasonic JetSpin Upright, Kirby Sentria, Sebo X4, Hoover Windtunnel Self Propelled, Kenmore Intuition Upright, Hoover platinum collection lightweight upright, Riccar Vibrance with onboard tools, Electrolux Nible, Miele Capricorn, Dyson DC41, Sanitaire Upright, Royal Metal Upright, and a Rug Doctor Mighty Pro X3. That's my long list that will never come true.
eurekaprince
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It would have to be the Hoover Platinum Lightweight soft-bag upright. Seems like the closest thing to a 1980's Eureka Bravo or Hoover Elite on the market now....but with controls right at your fingertips!!!
s31463221
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I want either....
A new Lux Guardian Ultra, or a new Kirby Sentria with ALL optional and standard attachments!
http://www.aerusvacuums.com/luxguardianultracanister/
A new Lux Guardian Ultra, or a new Kirby Sentria with ALL optional and standard attachments!
http://www.aerusvacuums.com/luxguardianultracanister/
Ipreferkirby
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I would choose
A Kirby Sentria II (naturally). Or a Aerus Lux Guardian Upright.
A Kirby Sentria II (naturally). Or a Aerus Lux Guardian Upright.
seamusuk
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Stealing Kirbys...
Hey Richard.....
I paid £50 for this beauty it needed a bag wash and a hour or so with some Autosol but heres the result- it has the boxed shampooer and main box as well .
Ive also just brought an Ultimate G fully refurbed with Boxed polisher, shampooer and turbo attachment plus basic toolkit (less hose) for £150. Im interested in your opinion of the 12ft stretch hose. The plan is to buy one to go with the Sentria and put the Sentria one with the Ultimate to make it complete
Seamus.
Hey Richard.....
I paid £50 for this beauty
it needed a bag wash and a hour or so with some Autosol but heres the result- it has the boxed shampooer and main box as well .Ive also just brought an Ultimate G fully refurbed with Boxed polisher, shampooer and turbo attachment plus basic toolkit (less hose) for £150. Im interested in your opinion of the 12ft stretch hose. The plan is to buy one to go with the Sentria and put the Sentria one with the Ultimate to make it complete
Seamus.
Kirby Sentria2,The 100th ann Kirby,100th Ann NSS M1,Vortech Force 3000.
