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Forgot to add that, despite the newer Panasonic being far more eco-friendlier, I agree with Beko that the white and black bagged uprights are very durable. The white Panasonics also have plentiful suppliers for dust bags since it is a very popular vacuum for those after bagged design - the newer Panasonic uses higher filter bags and can be harder to find. The prices for the white models are dirt cheap - cheaper than Hoover Purepower and less of an effort to use in general.
 
If she's looking for "rugged" ...

"I know when handling an upright Vacuum mum will treat it like the old 1960's Hoover Senior we had when I was a kid, i.e. it might have to be rugged !"

She may be disappointed with just about anything in that price range, unfortunately.
 
I'm forever seeing them at car boots and the like in need of a clean. Get a decent second hand one and new belts/filters/bags and it will be fine.

Although £80 new isn't so bad. Better than anything else (saddens me to say) in that price range. If the brushroll was stiffer I'd rate it alot more.
 
Hi
Excellent! Thanks so much for all the input & opinions. The video's beko1987 are great as it helps give an idea of the size, cheers for that.
I see what you mean about the Amazon reviews sebo_fan probably best not to pay too much heed to those.
My local 2 Argos's have now run out of stock of these (slightly annoying to say the least!) Hopefully this is just because it's popular, & doesn't mean that it's because it's going out of production or something?
I've given mum my/your opinions & details of the Panasonic, the Vax & also the Hoover Purepower so I hope she goes with the Panasonic or at least the Vax, I don't want her to get the Hoover but mum will definitely make her own mind up !
Thanks again for all this, it's greatly appreciated.
Dave
 
No probs, happy to help and I'm sure all the other collectors and members are too.


 


Even if the Panasonic goes out of production, there will always be plenty of spares for it - that white or black model (there was also a red upright) has been going for the best part of 20 odd years. 
 
If it were me....

I would personally recommend a 500 series Kirby. Now, I have to remember that they may have been a bit different in the UK, but my model 514 from 1954 is one of the best I've used. It's pretty light, fairly quiet, and would put a modern upright to shame. If you happen to stumble upon one of the earlier Kirbys, that might be a pretty good choice. Besides, your mum would love the old-time feel of the machine! :) best of luck!
 
Turbo500

I knew that they were different. Some machines that were sold only in UK are ones that I want someday. I've never seen a Moulinex Master in America......
 
Hello all.
Just to give you an update, I've given mum the facts & figures, discussed at length the various attributes (or lack of), given my opinon &........ mum wants the Hoover Pure Power ! As mum's had Hoover's before she trusts the brand, so that is that.

So, this week I will scoot off to Argos in the Micra to get one (anyone noticed in the latest catalogue out yesterday just how few bagged vac's are actually still in it ?)

There are in Argos what appear to be basic Pure Power, 2100w "extra power" & a 2200w "Enigma" (this model is half price), Pure Powers. Does anyone have experience of these, is one type of motor better than another? 2200w certainly seems huge compared to a Henry! I appreciate all will be pretty crappy but is one slightly less poo than the others?

Sorry to ask yet again but mum doesn't have mountains of money, so if one Pure Power is slightly less junk than the others, it would be good to know.

Thanks again
Dave
 
Hi Dave,

Sorry but they're both pants. I'd go with whichever is cheaper.

You have to remember that Hoover, as your Mum remembers them, don't exist anymore. They're all just nasty, cheap, Chinese made junk.
 
Hello all

Well as instructed by my mum, I picked up the Hoover Pure Power from Argos today (it's currently at my house I'm taking it to hers later).

You guys were certainly right, Hoover ain't what they were ! The handle release has freed off quite a bit now but initially I thought I'd have to jump on the damned thing with both feet to get it to shift. The "chassis" seems flimsy & the plastics are nothing to write home about.

It seemed to pick up well some test fluff I put down & as it's winter it does keep you nice & warm due to the heat it puts out.

It's what mum wanted & I think mum will like it (& that's really all that matters), it's a nice colour & works ok (not great but ok) but how can Hoover have got to this? As a boy we had Seniors, Turbo Powers etc which were great but this is not a patch on those. Do Hoover themselves not look at & test the product & think they might be able to do a bit better? Having said that, in real terms the Pure Power will have cost a lot less than they did.

I must admit, it quite made our little Numatic Henry seem like a Rolls Royce in comparison.

Thanks again for all your help & suggestions, I'm just a little sorry we ended up with the non-recommended Hoover.

Cheers
Dave
 
Dave, you need to re-read what's been said above. Hoover don't exist anymore, they are just cheap, generic, chinese made machines with the word "Hoover" stamped on it.

After Hoover got taken over by Candy in 1995, their floorcare division was slowly dissolved and all production is now outsourced to China. Hoover haven't existed as you remember them in almost 20 years.

Granted, the later Turbo 2's and early Purepower's weren't bad, but quality has been on a steady decline ever since. The Purepower you have bought your mother has absolutely no link what so ever to the Senior's and Turbopower's you remember, apart from that it has the same word printed on the front of it. It isn't designed by or produced by the same company. You could write "Hoover" on a Dyson with a sharpie but it's still a Dyson and still not a Hoover.

As sad as it is, it won't be long before that Purepower needs replacing. The most common faults are:

- Broken handle release
- jammed height adjustment and/or broken height adjustment knob
- cracked or smashed chasis due to the amount of force you have to put on the handle release to get it to work
- failed power switch, either stuck in "on" or "off"
- siezed brushroll bearings

Every Purepower I've ever known anybody own has met it's make with one or all of the above.
 
The other problem I had with them was the HEPA door on the back of the Purepower failing to stay on. Poor plastic lugs on the back facing plates. Don't know if they have improved any but after three attempts and two replacements, enough was enough.

It's a real shame about Hoover. I noticed that the Hoover Athos has been made into a "English" translated video on You Tube. Looks quite good but obviously trying to snatch sales from Miele's S5/S8 vacs on looks alone as well as Bosch.

 

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