Vacuum for my mother-suggestions

[jaker15]

Turbo500

I knew that they were different. Some machines that were sold only in UK are ones that I want someday. I've never seen a Moulinex Master in America......

 

[turbo500]

never seen a Moulinex Master

In all fairness, Jaker, the Moulinex uprights are getting very rare over here now. Shame as they were great cleaners.

 

[jaker15]

I would

Love to see one. From that video I watched, it seemed extremely quiet and pleasant sounding.

 

[rutger]

Hello all.
Just to give you an update, I've given mum the facts & figures, discussed at length the various attributes (or lack of), given my opinon &........ mum wants the Hoover Pure Power ! As mum's had Hoover's before she trusts the brand, so that is that.

So, this week I will scoot off to Argos in the Micra to get one (anyone noticed in the latest catalogue out yesterday just how few bagged vac's are actually still in it ?)

There are in Argos what appear to be basic Pure Power, 2100w "extra power" & a 2200w "Enigma" (this model is half price), Pure Powers. Does anyone have experience of these, is one type of motor better than another? 2200w certainly seems huge compared to a Henry! I appreciate all will be pretty crappy but is one slightly less poo than the others?

Sorry to ask yet again but mum doesn't have mountains of money, so if one Pure Power is slightly less junk than the others, it would be good to know.

Thanks again
Dave

 

[turbo500]

Hi Dave,

Sorry but they're both pants. I'd go with whichever is cheaper.

You have to remember that Hoover, as your Mum remembers them, don't exist anymore. They're all just nasty, cheap, Chinese made junk.

 

[sebo_fan]

By the looks of it Hoover still have their Dust Manager Evo GreenRay Upright for sale direct from Hoover UK for £89-99.

Id sooner buy that than go for the bagged Purepower.



http://www.hoover.co.uk/small-appli...-manager-evo-greenray-upright-vacuum-cleaner/

 

[beko1987]

This purepower was linked to in another thread, if it's any help

http://www.morecomputers.com/extra.aspx?pn=pu2120

 

[rutger]

Hello all

Well as instructed by my mum, I picked up the Hoover Pure Power from Argos today (it's currently at my house I'm taking it to hers later).

You guys were certainly right, Hoover ain't what they were ! The handle release has freed off quite a bit now but initially I thought I'd have to jump on the damned thing with both feet to get it to shift. The "chassis" seems flimsy & the plastics are nothing to write home about.

It seemed to pick up well some test fluff I put down & as it's winter it does keep you nice & warm due to the heat it puts out.

It's what mum wanted & I think mum will like it (& that's really all that matters), it's a nice colour & works ok (not great but ok) but how can Hoover have got to this? As a boy we had Seniors, Turbo Powers etc which were great but this is not a patch on those. Do Hoover themselves not look at & test the product & think they might be able to do a bit better? Having said that, in real terms the Pure Power will have cost a lot less than they did.

I must admit, it quite made our little Numatic Henry seem like a Rolls Royce in comparison.

Thanks again for all your help & suggestions, I'm just a little sorry we ended up with the non-recommended Hoover.

Cheers
Dave

 

[turbo500]

Dave, you need to re-read what's been said above. Hoover don't exist anymore, they are just cheap, generic, chinese made machines with the word "Hoover" stamped on it.

After Hoover got taken over by Candy in 1995, their floorcare division was slowly dissolved and all production is now outsourced to China. Hoover haven't existed as you remember them in almost 20 years.

Granted, the later Turbo 2's and early Purepower's weren't bad, but quality has been on a steady decline ever since. The Purepower you have bought your mother has absolutely no link what so ever to the Senior's and Turbopower's you remember, apart from that it has the same word printed on the front of it. It isn't designed by or produced by the same company. You could write "Hoover" on a Dyson with a sharpie but it's still a Dyson and still not a Hoover.

As sad as it is, it won't be long before that Purepower needs replacing. The most common faults are:

- Broken handle release
- jammed height adjustment and/or broken height adjustment knob
- cracked or smashed chasis due to the amount of force you have to put on the handle release to get it to work
- failed power switch, either stuck in "on" or "off"
- siezed brushroll bearings

Every Purepower I've ever known anybody own has met it's make with one or all of the above.

 

[sebo_fan]

The other problem I had with them was the HEPA door on the back of the Purepower failing to stay on. Poor plastic lugs on the back facing plates. Don't know if they have improved any but after three attempts and two replacements, enough was enough.

It's a real shame about Hoover. I noticed that the Hoover Athos has been made into a "English" translated video on You Tube. Looks quite good but obviously trying to snatch sales from Miele's S5/S8 vacs on looks alone as well as Bosch.

 

[hi-loswitch98]

I like the Nanopack System on this, but if Hoover UK bought it to the UK I would buy one straightaway as long as it wasn't too expensive.

 

[ultraperformer]

I agree Beckham if this was on sale for a decent price I'd deffo get one, although the power rating is very high 2500W for the top version.

 

[hi-loswitch98]

Yes, but they have a 1000w version on sale. I love how they have used a lot of Miele & Hoover Telios designs in it - 5L bag, Clicky slots on the handle & floor tool to lock them into place, tools stored under a flap, 4 castors etc

I was practically pleading with Hoover to let them release the Athos in the UK, but they said they don't release any information until they are 100% sure that they are doing so.

 

[sebo_fan]

Is that what Hoover told you?

When I phoned Hoover in Wales, they said that they don't know very much and only what the Italian company send over. No wonder the company in the UK are in a mess if they don't know in advance what they are receiving.

Thing is, apart from the Nanopack design, there's virtually nothing distinguishable of the Athos compared to Miele's S5 or S8 when taking into consideration the bag capacity. Even in the video the woman looks like she has a short hose to put up with. I agree, the cost price will be the biggest's attractant.

As a fan of the original Telios, it was like a softened version of the ARIA that went before it back in the 1980s and even then when you looked at it, it always had a Miele style about it. Hoover were also rapped in the 1980s for copying Miele's dust bag design.

The Nanopack IMHO isn't as well designed as the Miele XXL handle that is available in other countries - a reason to why the S6 models have twin parking storage slots on either side of the vacuum cleaner and with the S8 too - the handle has an ingenious clip on the underside that allows the hose to be curved around the body of the Miele and the handle locked on one side of the vacuum cleaner with the floor head stored on the other.

The Germans wouldn't put a clip that could in theory snap off at the front where the major controls sit.

 

[alexhoovers94]

Since I own one of the VERY early Purepower's which is from 1997 and I have owned a 2010 Purepower I can say that the quality, performance and noise level is NOTHING like that of the old one!!
The handle release on my 97 Purepower is far superior to the one that was on my 2010 model on my 97 one you just have to press it ever so lightly and it releases, unlike the 2010 model where an elephants foot was required.

The Turbopower 2's were MUCH better, but that is another story and I am sure some or most people on here have heard me talk enough about Turbopower's.

 

[sebo_fan]

Yes, its a pity that Hoover went one better (?) and got rid of the red LED bag light beside the on switch on the Purepower. For the last couple of years, a cheap blanking plate where the light should be merely highlights the stinginess of the company.

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

I have had the mach air range and they really are very over rated. Cheaply built, very weak brush roll. It wont groom thick pilled carpets well at all.

The best lightweight vacuum I have used is what I have - Felix by Sebo. Not only is it lightweight but as we know, its detachable and has incredible vacuuming capabilities. Might also be easier because it swivels.

Also, the on/off, suction control and the cable storage is up high on the cleaner. No bending down what so ever.

 

[alexhoovers94]

Where the early Purepower's are concerned, the handle release was less temperamental as it actually had a metal spring under the pedal which would compress down when releasing and wouldn't snap under to much force, unlike the later and indeed new models did/do. The later and new models have a pedal which has a stiff plastic piece attached to the bottom of the it and is supposed to flex when compressed, however this can brake as it is only plastic which requires to bend. That is also the reason the handle release is so hard to press down because there is no spring under the pedal like the original design, it has that relatively rigid plastic piece which you have to nearly stamp on to get it to release and of course as mentioned if it is pressed to hard it will snap.