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Ipreferkirby
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Redirects me to vax.com, does vax usa exist anymore?
Redirects me to vax.com, does vax usa exist anymore?
sebo_fan
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I dont think it exists - all of the Vax sites carry the Techtronic Industries name - so it must mean then that Vax is owned by TTI.
director12
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In terms of TTi, can anyone think what were Hoover's last products before their TTi takeover?
But Really...
NOTHING is the quality it used to be, the last real vacuum was AirWay and its gone,Kirby is still a quality mackine, but still way too big and heavy,:Bring back the D-80", Electrolux,or Aerus still has those clunky plastic wands as does Tri Star, as well as big old pistol grips, in short, nothing is user friendly,or metal anymore, its a real shame but thats the way it is.
NOTHING is the quality it used to be, the last real vacuum was AirWay and its gone,Kirby is still a quality mackine, but still way too big and heavy,:Bring back the D-80", Electrolux,or Aerus still has those clunky plastic wands as does Tri Star, as well as big old pistol grips, in short, nothing is user friendly,or metal anymore, its a real shame but thats the way it is.
sebo_fan
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I agree Kencart but it seems to be the way with a lot of things. My Sony portable CD stereo that I bought last year has finally broke. It was a cheap one at cost but being a Sony model I chose it for the name and reputation despite the cheap price. I was actually willing for it to die so I could replace it with something better built, With better sound quality.
Sadly in the audio world, no one makes CD players with a speakers with a tape player and radio anymore - it seems to fallen by the way side, or rather what the brands have coerced the buyers into paying out more for - cue micro hifi systems that can't be moved around. Cue vintage stereo on an auction site then!
Sadly in the audio world, no one makes CD players with a speakers with a tape player and radio anymore - it seems to fallen by the way side, or rather what the brands have coerced the buyers into paying out more for - cue micro hifi systems that can't be moved around. Cue vintage stereo on an auction site then!
Even the new "old favorites) made by TTI
are made of a different, CHEAPER plastic! You can still buy a Portapower, and the Decade 80 type Commercials. But, the black swirly plastic is different. Even the end of the Elites were cheaper plastic.
are made of a different, CHEAPER plastic! You can still buy a Portapower, and the Decade 80 type Commercials. But, the black swirly plastic is different. Even the end of the Elites were cheaper plastic.
director12
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Even though newer vacuums aren't built like they used to, proper care can prolong the life.
sebo_fan
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Yes, but what defines "proper care" if you are NOT a collector?
As I've said (and others have said) the care that a collector will put into his/her collection is substantially different to how the average vacuum cleaner owner will be. Subjective use from an owner point of view will show that certain plastic vacs are better built than others, let alone the daily abusive uses from carpet cleaning to brush roll destruction that the average owner couldn't care less about.
In my experience, there is very little difference of a classic metal based upright vacuum compared to a modern vac IN THE HANDS of average Joe Public. The amount of old classic and mostly well loved vacs have been heavily abused in the hands of those who choose to use them. Average Joe Public doesn't give a fig about a bruised bumper or lighter plastics, and if it is bagless, then the likelihood that the filters haven't been well maintained merely adds to the case.
That's why there are so many threads on here from members who have "rescued kerb side" vacuums that have been thrown out. Either the owner is fed up with the vacuum, hasn't de-clogged it because they can't be bothered, or if something that is fixable to a collector, has broken off that deters the use of the vacuum in the home.
As I've said (and others have said) the care that a collector will put into his/her collection is substantially different to how the average vacuum cleaner owner will be. Subjective use from an owner point of view will show that certain plastic vacs are better built than others, let alone the daily abusive uses from carpet cleaning to brush roll destruction that the average owner couldn't care less about.
In my experience, there is very little difference of a classic metal based upright vacuum compared to a modern vac IN THE HANDS of average Joe Public. The amount of old classic and mostly well loved vacs have been heavily abused in the hands of those who choose to use them. Average Joe Public doesn't give a fig about a bruised bumper or lighter plastics, and if it is bagless, then the likelihood that the filters haven't been well maintained merely adds to the case.
That's why there are so many threads on here from members who have "rescued kerb side" vacuums that have been thrown out. Either the owner is fed up with the vacuum, hasn't de-clogged it because they can't be bothered, or if something that is fixable to a collector, has broken off that deters the use of the vacuum in the home.
gmerkt
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In my own observation, this subject has something to do with there the machines are made. I don't claim to be an expert, nor do I have any inside knowledge of how TTI does their business. My experience comes from having worked on many machines made before and after TTi.
Hoover machines made in Mexico, in my opinion, are generally of a basic higher quality than those made in China. I believe Hoover still manufactures some of their legacy models there, such as the bagged self propelled Windtunnel. I've worked on these with dates as late as 2012, well after the TTI takeover. Same comment re. bagged Tempos and dual chamber bagless Windtunnels. The materials used appear to be superior, however the motors are Chinese so obviously not made in North America.
The machines sourced in China, again as a matter of my own opinion, seem to be lighter weight and plastic materials that are not as robust as those coming from Mexico. There are differences from one Chinese-made model to another. For example, the UH70000 series (Cyclonic) seems to be different enough in execution from the T Series (as another example) that they likely are made in two different plants.
And does TTI even own a factory or factories in China? Or do they just contract out to various Chinese electrical firms to make X hundred thousand machines, then move on? If they are contracting out to bidders then it makes sense that different types of plastic used, different hardware, etc. would exist from one model line to another.
Sears relied for years on Panasonic USA to supply many of their machines and the common manufacturing techniques and materials used are constant across production. However, when they sourced some machines from Phone Mate in China for a few years, you could readily see the differences in how they were made.
Hoover machines made in Mexico, in my opinion, are generally of a basic higher quality than those made in China. I believe Hoover still manufactures some of their legacy models there, such as the bagged self propelled Windtunnel. I've worked on these with dates as late as 2012, well after the TTI takeover. Same comment re. bagged Tempos and dual chamber bagless Windtunnels. The materials used appear to be superior, however the motors are Chinese so obviously not made in North America.
The machines sourced in China, again as a matter of my own opinion, seem to be lighter weight and plastic materials that are not as robust as those coming from Mexico. There are differences from one Chinese-made model to another. For example, the UH70000 series (Cyclonic) seems to be different enough in execution from the T Series (as another example) that they likely are made in two different plants.
And does TTI even own a factory or factories in China? Or do they just contract out to various Chinese electrical firms to make X hundred thousand machines, then move on? If they are contracting out to bidders then it makes sense that different types of plastic used, different hardware, etc. would exist from one model line to another.
Sears relied for years on Panasonic USA to supply many of their machines and the common manufacturing techniques and materials used are constant across production. However, when they sourced some machines from Phone Mate in China for a few years, you could readily see the differences in how they were made.
sebo_fan
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I can't speak for TTI, but Panasonic UK bound vacuums are made in Mexico and they seem to be well made.
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