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[Ipreferkirby]

After TTI took over Hoover (DD, Royal, Vax) do think quality stayed the same got better or worse compared to late maytag Hoovers. I had a hellish experience with a late model maytag Hoover, so my parents are getting a ... Hoover Windtunnel air, I am distrustful of anything made by TTI. So your verdict is...?

 

[vacman117]

Most people are going to say that everything went downhill, but in my opinion, I think TTI went the same direction that Hoover would have gone in the first place. Times change and nobody can seem to accept that. A lot of the TTI Hoovers are fantastic cleaners. I own a lot of them. You will not be disappointed by the Windtunnel Air by any means. I have one and it's a very sturdy, reliable machine.

 

[sarasvacshack]

We buy

truck loads of used vac trades. TTI Hoovers are garbage and rarely in good condition. Those that are in good condition usually have the attachment holders broken off. Ours join the Bissells, Eurekas and bagless units in the great big blue storage bin (that gets picked up once a week), after having their power cords removed of course...lol.

 

[bagintheback]

No one knows what Maytag/Whirlpool would have done, but I would agree that it would not have much different from what TTI is doing. But still, TTI has done some pretty bad things to the new Hoover name. For example, they have re-branded cheap DirtDevils into low-end Hoovers and shut down all manufacturing plants in North Canton, but I doubt much could have been about that anyway.

I think TTI machines are decent vacuums. Most are better than the Bissell and Eureka competitors, and the prices reflect the quality. Late Maytag Hoovers got pretty bad, like the bagless Tempo, so you will get better results with your Windtunnel Air. However, you can get much better vacuums at lower prices than the Windtunnel. The Eureka 1934 retails for $99, the Hoover Tempo(very, very nice Hoover)is $75, or a Hoover Elite is only around $100 brand new. So look at all the options for sure.

 

[Ipreferkirby]

Hoover Elite

How do you get a Hoover Elite Brand new, I thought Hoover discontunied the elite if I remember right.

 

[mieles7]

Hoover makes a commercial elite. I've heard great things about it.

http://www.amazon.com/Hoover-C1404-Lightweight-Commercial-Upright/dp/B005NASTW8

 

[durango159]

I think the products are worse. The Hoover Maytag stuff wasn't great, but for example the canister vacuum tool set stayed the same for the duration of Maytag from the Hoover Dimension 1000. Now its rare to get a Hoover canister with a bare floor brush. Most of the tools don't stay on board and some are microscopic. They have made changes to the attachment set on the Tempo too, which used to come with Hoovers original upholstery nozzle, now its a Dirt Devil Featherlite dusting brush.

It used to be Dirt Devil was a budgeted consumer line. Reasonable cleaning, great warranty but cheap lightweight design, and very loud. Hoover was on middle ground. Excellent cleaning, and reasonable durability at low cost. Royal was top notch. Mostly metal units. Now everything is merged. A Hoover Windtunnel Supreme is now a Royal home based series--same exact machine different label and color. Also the former Wal-Mart exclusive Dirt Devil Rewind with brush roll on/off is now a rebadged Royal upright- same design. None of the brands have their own unique signature anymore they're all pretty much merged. The TOL Royal SR20 canister for $600 is the suction unit on a Hoover Windtunnel Anniversary canister with higher featured power nozzle from the bagless cyclonic Hoovers. The hose looks like it is the same style as the bagless cyclonic Hoovers as well.

Hoover's "exciting" 6 year warranty Platinum line has been plagued by failures of the bagless cyclonic canister and carpet shampooer. The canister having hose problems and I think some of the wiring for the new power heads has been problematic. Otherwise the new Windtunnel power nozzle actually looks nice. The carpet shampooer has lots of technology and is a fantastic cleaning machine so I've heard but it has lots of issues.

With TTI, Hoover no longer makes their own hoses. Its a generic manufacturer. Their current carrying hoses can be seen on cheap Bissell and Dirt Devil canisters. The agitators are now CWP instead of Hoover. So the replacement brush roll for the Elite and my PowerMax canister is awful. The original Hoover green colored bags are gone. The standard bag is now a white material and is awful. Its filtration effects are a disgrace and have caused problems with my Hoovers. I now use generic bags. The Hoover museum and North Canton factories are gone, the last factory is in the process of being shut down. I'll never get to see the Hoover museum which was a dream of mine someday!!!

 

[bagintheback]

Are you serious?! TTI is shutting down the Hoover Historical Museum? I just spoke to someone who worked there over email a few months ago. It just gets worse and worse........

 

[floor-a-matic]

I hope the Hoover Historical Museum stays open!

Generally, I think Hoover products went downhill back in early 1985.

I dislike the new, "cheap" turbo brush. The ORIGINAL "WindTunnel" turbo brush was the best ever.

When did the Tempo change their tools? Why can't they go back to the button lock tools like the pre-Elite days?

 

[tolivac]

TTI---Buffoons of the vacuum cleaner world!!!when they take over a company---The Kiss of Death.

 

[sebo_fan]

Oh I don't know - I think TTI have been good for Vax UK. Certainly in the days before TTI were official and Vax were being given Dirt Devil U.S products to re-badge, I don't think Vax would have survived on their canister tubs alone. Yes, there was the 2 in 1 upright vacuum cleaner, the Vax Wave where you could use a tank instead of the paper dust bag, but Vax sales alone concentrated highly on their tub 3 in 1 canister vacs before dabbling with Bosch to produce the VX/AVC upright.  TTI have been good for Vax UK as far as I can see - almost all of their cylinder and uprights are Dirt Devil U.S products and now U.S Hoover products (like the Windtunnel Air).


 


The Vax Mach Air may well have been designed in the UK but I believe TTI had this design on their books giving each country their own take and enterprise to design something to each taste.

 

[myvacsrock]

From what i've heard..

The museum isn't even owned by TTI any more...I believe Walsh College of N. Canton bought it and plans on the museum remaining open..
Better to check before a rumor gets started about it shutting down.

 

[myvacsrock]

Source.

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http://www.walsh.edu/hoover-historical-center

 

[durango159]

Oh wow, I am sooo terribly sorry. I thought I heard that it was shut down. Wonderful to hear that is owned by Walsh College. Ok, who wants to go on a road trip!! LOL. I can still go there someday then.

Do they still tons of vacuums to show progression over the years of styles, or did they sell a lot off?

I would love to know more info about.

 

[guardsman69]

being that it was i who has been insturmental in the reinvention and recreation of hoover i believe hoover is better off today in a sea of cut throat competition and technological wars as a 37 year veteran hoover warranty sales and service dealer and their first child service then sales prodigy and with the company since the hoover family owned it and the four others after .....i will weigh in....as for branding hoover product royal ....that is done out of respect and regard for royal dealers to give them access to hoover product with in their dealerships.....i created the cr50005 and that blue branded u5491900 rebranded rOYAL UH30085 FOR THAT REASON.......we have powerful more energy efficient motors generating higher suction and as for the brush rollers made to our specs and not cwp standard replacement they make our agitation quieter and more aggressive with out warping out of balance like the original agitator....i also had a lot to do with the creation of the aniversary collection which with seven of hoovers top engineers right here with me in my showroom in may 2007.....released in 2008 for our 100th anniversary still holds its own in the ratings.....i took tons of burnt up maytag hoovers to the scrap dump when half of you were still in grade school and as for t series it is a solid vacuum if it is maintained properly .....when a consumer is shown how to from the begining they have great success with it and after i repair them under warranty .....i teach the retail consumer how to as well and it is always a success.....as for hoovers future great things are on their way and you will see hoover and its future out of this dark period and transition in a whole new light.

 

[sebo_fan]

What a pity it's not the same with Hoover UK.

 

[fan-of-fans]

I don't mind the TTI Hoovers that still use Hoover's designs, such as the Elites, Convertible-based machines, Windtunnels, and possibly some others that they make. However, I don't like how they have blended Dirty Devil parts with Hoover as mentioned above. Honestly I agree that something would have happened even if it wasn't TTI, as manufacturing had to go to China sooner or later.

I agree as well there are better machines for the price. I much prefer a Panasonic or Kenmore to most TTI made vacuums. I think some Bissells are okay as well, I don't care much for new Eurekas other than the 1934 model mentioned above and a few others.

 

[floor-a-matic]

Some Hoover vacs were made in China even before the TTI takeover.

Is Vax USA part of TTI or not?

 

[Ipreferkirby]

What is Vax USA (yes I do have a lot to learn)