The mysterious Kenwood/Goblin/Philips/Delonghi upright
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turbo500
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"They came with a 36 mm tubes and attachments, just like was and delongi wet& dry vacuums"
Both of mine are definitely 35mm. Infact, the tools I have for mine are replacements and are all 35mm
Both of mine are definitely 35mm. Infact, the tools I have for mine are replacements and are all 35mm
gsheen
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I still have stock of the hoses here, Its 36 according to a vernia Just checked
gsheen
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No all imported from the factory in Italy
gsheen
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your one is worn thats why its 35, a factory won't make two different size hoses for the same machine a millimetre apart.
I got to tour the factory back in the late 90's they still made these for certain country's , one factory making delongi, wap , stihl, philips and many more very interesting.
I got to tour the factory back in the late 90's they still made these for certain country's , one factory making delongi, wap , stihl, philips and many more very interesting.
gsheen
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They will never be loose because the one great thing that the designers did when desinging these parts was to taper them , so as the plastic wears it wil just push further and further in,
When I worked in product development one of my first big progects was a machine manufactured by this company for my company, they wouldn't even change the tooling to make it to our specs, it was all 36, thats the only size they made. I had endless arguments with them about it, Thats why I know for a fact that its 36 not 35, infact very few manufacturers use 35, AEG did. Its a odd number, Your vacuum hoses are made in 32, 36, 38 &50 mil those are the standard sizes used by most manufacturers. deviate from this and it becomes very very expensive. to give you an idea, the mould machine used to make a 32 mil hose cost £ 1 000 000 10 years ago
When I worked in product development one of my first big progects was a machine manufactured by this company for my company, they wouldn't even change the tooling to make it to our specs, it was all 36, thats the only size they made. I had endless arguments with them about it, Thats why I know for a fact that its 36 not 35, infact very few manufacturers use 35, AEG did. Its a odd number, Your vacuum hoses are made in 32, 36, 38 &50 mil those are the standard sizes used by most manufacturers. deviate from this and it becomes very very expensive. to give you an idea, the mould machine used to make a 32 mil hose cost £ 1 000 000 10 years ago
gsheen
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No it was very frustrating, the language barrier was huge. 15 trips in one year over there not fun to finalise a product.
I was so glad when my next assignment was a product from Eureka from the states, they were so much more willing to make any changes we needed
I was so glad when my next assignment was a product from Eureka from the states, they were so much more willing to make any changes we needed
gsheen
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product engineer, our market in SA is unique so often changes need o be made to import vacuums.
gsheen
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when you have a range of vacuums that all use 32 mm attachments you want to try and keep it that way to minimise spares layout and so on, that type of thing, product testing , and of cource seeing if the product will suit our market. the real frustrating part was after all the work had been done months spent sorting out finer details the big wigs decide to cancel the product. FUN
vintagerepairer
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Some things to throw into this excellent thread, if I may. The Goblin / Aquavac cleaner was around as 'Aqua Vac' before Shop Vac acquired the Goblin brand. It was after this that it got the name Goblin-Aqua vac and Goblin. The Kenwood version was sold in two versions, the first being a standard cleaner and the other electronic. They looked identical except for the addition of a dial on the front top panel of the electronic machine and I think the motor was slightly more powerful in terms of watts.
During the 1990's, some home-catalogue companies had the Philips style cleaner for sale under the brand names M-Tec and Karshima. These names were not exclusive to any specific manufacturer as they were put on many types of appliance by many manufacturers. Some of the cylinder cleaners bearing these names were in fact made by the same Polish company who supplied cleaners under the Spinney and Rotel brand.
During the 1990's, some home-catalogue companies had the Philips style cleaner for sale under the brand names M-Tec and Karshima. These names were not exclusive to any specific manufacturer as they were put on many types of appliance by many manufacturers. Some of the cylinder cleaners bearing these names were in fact made by the same Polish company who supplied cleaners under the Spinney and Rotel brand.
vintagerepairer
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Sorry I also forgot to say that the Delonghi version was in the shops long before 1996. It was one which if my memory serves me correctly was seen in the Index catalouge stores, though I think the early models had plastic extension tubes.
turbo500
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Sorry, but I have to disagree. Mine is definitely at 35mm fit. A friend of mine just got a NIB Delonghi Combi 800 and that is also a 35mm fit.
Benny, I remember the M-tec. It was sold through littlewoods I believe. My aunt had one for a short time in black and chrome
Benny, I remember the M-tec. It was sold through littlewoods I believe. My aunt had one for a short time in black and chrome
Not to start going on about the 35mm VS 36mm again, but on eBay I can't find a single item for "36mm upholstery tool" but can find a fair few (48 to be specific) for "35mm upholstery tool".
I don't believe we had any 36mm fitting Vacuum Cleaners here in the UK.
I don't believe we had any 36mm fitting Vacuum Cleaners here in the UK.
