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Gee, Dave
now, you're complete.. having both floorwashers. My quest for the yellow one continues.........
now, you're complete.. having both floorwashers. My quest for the yellow one continues.........
aeoliandave
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This Royal cylinder is a revalation to me.
I'd only seen pictures of these, in yellow, blue and deep red. I had no idea how small - 20" end to end - and light it is and easy to pull around on 4 wheels. The on-board tools saddle caddy makes it cute as a button and they don't/won't fall off.
Wow, variable speed switch makes it pull from 75" to over 110". The longest hose ever...11 feet from can to hose handle. Handle switch turns on PN headlight and brushroll motor.
With all these features and the lovely rich red colour what it really should have is an Electrolux style cordwinder. Maybe I jazz it up with one.
Being a Royal Dealer, Chad had the hepa filter bags for it for me.
I'd only seen pictures of these, in yellow, blue and deep red. I had no idea how small - 20" end to end - and light it is and easy to pull around on 4 wheels. The on-board tools saddle caddy makes it cute as a button and they don't/won't fall off.
Wow, variable speed switch makes it pull from 75" to over 110". The longest hose ever...11 feet from can to hose handle. Handle switch turns on PN headlight and brushroll motor.
With all these features and the lovely rich red colour what it really should have is an Electrolux style cordwinder. Maybe I jazz it up with one.
Being a Royal Dealer, Chad had the hepa filter bags for it for me.
Red Royal accoutrements.......
That's a beautiful set of Royal tools you have there, Dave - almost Eureka like. And they all store on-board - even the floor brush. Those were the days.....
And....well.....ahem....I have no other way of saying this.....but.....ahem.....congratulations on getting that 11-foot hose! Amazing! We had a Sanyo canister in the 1970's with what must have been a five-foot hose. What a waste of rubber....
That's a beautiful set of Royal tools you have there, Dave - almost Eureka like. And they all store on-board - even the floor brush. Those were the days.....
And....well.....ahem....I have no other way of saying this.....but.....ahem.....congratulations on getting that 11-foot hose! Amazing! We had a Sanyo canister in the 1970's with what must have been a five-foot hose. What a waste of rubber....
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My Little Shop of Floor'ers....LMAO
Dave,
Was so good to see you, and even better that we can do it this weekend again we we come up to Sarina. I usually am quite willing out help out others if I can. And if you need the help again for the shipping, just holler my way.
I remember you saying that you got a few shots of this "Roswell like" secret warehouse that had all the vacs in Ohio. Looking over the within, I can definitely see a treasure or two for meself. I'm sure others here are drooling also. At my old job up in Lansing we had a whole third floor of the old factory building the owner had bought for a song a few years beforehand; about the width and length of this pole barn, filled with vacuum cleaners of all kins and sorts, all rowed out and sorted like that. That took me three days solid to do when i started. By he time I left three years later, I could recant by number and row, where a machine was. this helped out my helper who usually was the gopher when I needed stuff at the main store. I guarantee that's not he way it is today. They're dumb As#$%les, and wouldn't know a system if it bit them in the privates..
My Store.... GOOD god , when you see it in person it doesn't look that sardine packed in here, but by the look of your pictures, I gotta lotta stuff here in my shoebox. We as i explained used to have that whole next section, but when the hair salon moved, and the Sewing Machine Store next door sold us of, we became our own little thing...next to where we used to be.
I'm so glad that your FloorWasher made it in one piece, and it's wonderful to see that you have two now. Completing the set. As we saw with the canister when we were still visiting, most people who know, know how to ship an item correctly AND safely. It's these idiot yahoo's that grabbed granny's vac while she was asleep on the lanai and tossed it in whatever box they could find, with minimal wrapping needs to make a quick buck that usually cause the damages, and loss.
Pete- I'll answer..three. And as cold as it was that afternoon, was a good thought. I wish I had a brain to think out things like that sometimes.
Ah the Royal Pony.... Truly the last decently made, all metal, well represented vac that was available from America Inc. Dave I forgot to add, as It snapped into my mind about the time you hit the ferry, and I was about to be In Lansing that that was our VERY last Royal Pony model that we sold before they were discontinued. I know this because they moved the motor speed control back from the hand grip to in front of the metal push switch on the back.
Sam, If you ever have owned a Kenmore, with the double-brush, double beater-bar agitator, you then already know how it cleans...VERY VERY well. This was the same unit that was used on Panasonic, Hayden, Royal, Air-Way and Sears Kenmore amongst others, including some central vacs as well; that I've simply forgotten to mention.
NICE thread...
Chad
Dave,
Was so good to see you, and even better that we can do it this weekend again we we come up to Sarina. I usually am quite willing out help out others if I can. And if you need the help again for the shipping, just holler my way.
I remember you saying that you got a few shots of this "Roswell like" secret warehouse that had all the vacs in Ohio. Looking over the within, I can definitely see a treasure or two for meself. I'm sure others here are drooling also. At my old job up in Lansing we had a whole third floor of the old factory building the owner had bought for a song a few years beforehand; about the width and length of this pole barn, filled with vacuum cleaners of all kins and sorts, all rowed out and sorted like that. That took me three days solid to do when i started. By he time I left three years later, I could recant by number and row, where a machine was. this helped out my helper who usually was the gopher when I needed stuff at the main store. I guarantee that's not he way it is today. They're dumb As#$%les, and wouldn't know a system if it bit them in the privates..
My Store.... GOOD god , when you see it in person it doesn't look that sardine packed in here, but by the look of your pictures, I gotta lotta stuff here in my shoebox. We as i explained used to have that whole next section, but when the hair salon moved, and the Sewing Machine Store next door sold us of, we became our own little thing...next to where we used to be.
I'm so glad that your FloorWasher made it in one piece, and it's wonderful to see that you have two now. Completing the set. As we saw with the canister when we were still visiting, most people who know, know how to ship an item correctly AND safely. It's these idiot yahoo's that grabbed granny's vac while she was asleep on the lanai and tossed it in whatever box they could find, with minimal wrapping needs to make a quick buck that usually cause the damages, and loss.
Pete- I'll answer..three. And as cold as it was that afternoon, was a good thought. I wish I had a brain to think out things like that sometimes.
Ah the Royal Pony.... Truly the last decently made, all metal, well represented vac that was available from America Inc. Dave I forgot to add, as It snapped into my mind about the time you hit the ferry, and I was about to be In Lansing that that was our VERY last Royal Pony model that we sold before they were discontinued. I know this because they moved the motor speed control back from the hand grip to in front of the metal push switch on the back.
Sam, If you ever have owned a Kenmore, with the double-brush, double beater-bar agitator, you then already know how it cleans...VERY VERY well. This was the same unit that was used on Panasonic, Hayden, Royal, Air-Way and Sears Kenmore amongst others, including some central vacs as well; that I've simply forgotten to mention.
NICE thread...
Chad
Thanks for the awnser Chad, I do know what you mean, that is the PN on the early 90's Kenmore of Aunt Thresa's that grandma uses.Probably a tie with the Eureka rotomatic powerteam PN like on your empress. But for style this PN is my favorite.
It's been decidely decided
Daves long hose will be the feature presentation during Show & Tell at a mini-meet to be held next Sunday at my house for vacuum collectors wishing to attend, please RSVP
All roads begin or end here depending on whether you're a coming or a going, the 402, I94 & I69
Daves long hose will be the feature presentation during Show & Tell at a mini-meet to be held next Sunday at my house for vacuum collectors wishing to attend, please RSVP
All roads begin or end here depending on whether you're a coming or a going, the 402, I94 & I69
aeoliandave
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Looks like we're gonna have sunny 50F weather for Sunday, too.
Check this link throughout the week and don't let weather be your reason for not making the journey. Sarnia is 90 minutes west from Stratford. Toronto or Hamilton/Niagara is another 90 minutes east of Stratford.
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/caon0601
Check this link throughout the week and don't let weather be your reason for not making the journey. Sarnia is 90 minutes west from Stratford. Toronto or Hamilton/Niagara is another 90 minutes east of Stratford.
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/caon0601
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Saddle Bags
Can the saddle bag attachment carrier be taken off the Royal canister? It looks like it's riveted or screwed on. I kind of think the vacuum would look nicer without it.
Can the saddle bag attachment carrier be taken off the Royal canister? It looks like it's riveted or screwed on. I kind of think the vacuum would look nicer without it.
aeoliandave
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I see it this way, Bill.
The saddle is definitely secured in place at the sides, with the handle riveted to the body over it. Would be a real pain to remove and why bother?
I have plenty of stylish vintage cylinders that need no embellishment of saddlebags to enhance their tubular beauty (with the exception of the well designed XXX & LX saddle plate caddies keeping the tools snugged tight to the body) ...but in the case of the Royal Pony, the substantial wheels and front ball casters protrude outside the vertical side plane of the short body and would make it look somewhat stumpy and ungainly. The saddle gives the whole some beefy heft without adding too much weight, serves as a wall bumper, imparts a certain masculine handsomeness to the package and also, of course, keeps the tools on board and readily at hand. And as for the long color matched hose - remember big things come in small packages. A very impressive vacuum ensemble, this Royal.
Dave
The saddle is definitely secured in place at the sides, with the handle riveted to the body over it. Would be a real pain to remove and why bother?
I have plenty of stylish vintage cylinders that need no embellishment of saddlebags to enhance their tubular beauty (with the exception of the well designed XXX & LX saddle plate caddies keeping the tools snugged tight to the body) ...but in the case of the Royal Pony, the substantial wheels and front ball casters protrude outside the vertical side plane of the short body and would make it look somewhat stumpy and ungainly. The saddle gives the whole some beefy heft without adding too much weight, serves as a wall bumper, imparts a certain masculine handsomeness to the package and also, of course, keeps the tools on board and readily at hand. And as for the long color matched hose - remember big things come in small packages.
A very impressive vacuum ensemble, this Royal.Dave
aeoliandave
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Comments about the TriStar after Hepa Filters got me to thin
What's so special about them other than a nod toward sub micron type filtration of the after motor airstream back into the room. And why does the smaller Filter Fresh seem to impede suction while the Warthog is free flowing?
I know they both have foam and carbon impregnated filter pad inserts.
What's so special about them other than a nod toward sub micron type filtration of the after motor airstream back into the room. And why does the smaller Filter Fresh seem to impede suction while the Warthog is free flowing?
I know they both have foam and carbon impregnated filter pad inserts.
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LOL!
Dave, you should write copy for Royal's advertising! It does sort of remind me of Al Borland (Tim Taylor's side-kick) on Home Improvement! LOL!
Dave, you should write copy for Royal's advertising! It does sort of remind me of Al Borland (Tim Taylor's side-kick) on Home Improvement! LOL!
aeoliandave
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Here's the answer.
The Warthog has an open large cell foam pad, then 3 carbon fibre pads and finally a circular pleated paper filter ring.
I can't be sure something might be missing but the Filter Fresh has one carbon pad and one foam pad. The foam is extremely small cell and even after washed and furnace register dried is definitely harder to blow through. I believe this foam pad restricts the airflow like a car muffler and hampers the efficiency built into every Compact/Tristar. I get a 91" reading from the Tristar which drops about 1/2" with the Filter Fresh in place. No drop with the Warthog.
There is room in the Filter Fresh for 2 or 3 more carbon pad pucks (smaller in diameter than the Warthog pucks) but I think the small cell foam is a big design flaw.
The pleated paper ring is so basic I'm sure a replacement can be found at the NAPA car parts store. But this one is virtually clean, as one would expect in any Compact with it's already superior multi filter protections.
The Warthog has an open large cell foam pad, then 3 carbon fibre pads and finally a circular pleated paper filter ring.
I can't be sure something might be missing but the Filter Fresh has one carbon pad and one foam pad. The foam is extremely small cell and even after washed and furnace register dried is definitely harder to blow through. I believe this foam pad restricts the airflow like a car muffler and hampers the efficiency built into every Compact/Tristar. I get a 91" reading from the Tristar which drops about 1/2" with the Filter Fresh in place. No drop with the Warthog.
There is room in the Filter Fresh for 2 or 3 more carbon pad pucks (smaller in diameter than the Warthog pucks) but I think the small cell foam is a big design flaw.
The pleated paper ring is so basic I'm sure a replacement can be found at the NAPA car parts store. But this one is virtually clean, as one would expect in any Compact with it's already superior multi filter protections.
aeoliandave
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Why I would prefer the Warthog over the Filter Fresh.
It looks like a revolving restaurant observation deck. LOL
The Seattle Space Needle - Vance Building Cigarette souvenir table lighter and the plastic promo CN Tower in Toronto. Not to scale with each other...
It looks like a revolving restaurant observation deck. LOL
The Seattle Space Needle - Vance Building Cigarette souvenir table lighter and the plastic promo CN Tower in Toronto. Not to scale with each other...
I dunno Dave I think it looks more like the Skylon tower in Niagara Falls.
Here's a picture of it taken last summer when I did my annual inflatable rubber raft trip over the falls. You can see me at the very right side. Whoa that was fun
Here's a picture of it taken last summer when I did my annual inflatable rubber raft trip over the falls. You can see me at the very right side. Whoa that was fun
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The Filter-Fresh also has a pleated filter.
Obviously, it's much smaller. Everything I ever heard from others indicated that it restricted the airflow way too much. A few years ago, I found an aftermarket pleated filter on eBay that fits on the motor intake. The air restriction is much less.
Obviously, it's much smaller. Everything I ever heard from others indicated that it restricted the airflow way too much. A few years ago, I found an aftermarket pleated filter on eBay that fits on the motor intake. The air restriction is much less.
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lol
that black filter thingy is humongous. Must make that tristar look dwarfed with it on.
that black filter thingy is humongous. Must make that tristar look dwarfed with it on.
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I just found one on eBay
Here's the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Dome-Motor-HEPA...72:1205|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1%
Here's the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Dome-Motor-HEPA...72:1205|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1%
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No
That one goes on the inside of the vacuum
That one goes on the inside of the vacuum
chockfullodust
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Yes, that's what I said.
It goes on the "motor intake".
It goes on the "motor intake".
aeoliandave
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The reason I quickly organized this trip to Toledo & Michiga
Here ya go, Alan - thanks for noticing.
Yup, it's my long looked for 1951 Hoover Aerodyne Model 51. Paid a few pennies more than usual but not as high as my top bid.
But just look at the condition!!! How could I go wrong?
No cracks in the bakelite, no scratches, perfect paint, no rust, perfect tight Variflex hose and wands and the all important floor nozzle. Hard to believe this vacuum cleaner is 2 years older than I am...
Here ya go, Alan - thanks for noticing.
Yup, it's my long looked for 1951 Hoover Aerodyne Model 51. Paid a few pennies more than usual but not as high as my top bid.
But just look at the condition!!! How could I go wrong?
No cracks in the bakelite, no scratches, perfect paint, no rust, perfect tight Variflex hose and wands and the all important floor nozzle. Hard to believe this vacuum cleaner is 2 years older than I am...
aeoliandave
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What's missing is the included tool caddy and the tools. But I have the Part Book and know what to look for. The hunt begins...
Serial No. 6,321,374 w Variflex hose.
Note at bottom of Tools Page reads "Cleaners prior to Serial No. 6,175,013 equipped with braided hose" like the one that came with the 26 upright. But the 26 tools do not fit, they were resized to fit the 51's standard size wands. Then along came the Constellation in 1954 with it's tools in color. I suppose dark brown Connie tools will do if they exist, but I don't have any, yet.
Serial No. 6,321,374 w Variflex hose.
Note at bottom of Tools Page reads "Cleaners prior to Serial No. 6,175,013 equipped with braided hose" like the one that came with the 26 upright. But the 26 tools do not fit, they were resized to fit the 51's standard size wands. Then along came the Constellation in 1954 with it's tools in color. I suppose dark brown Connie tools will do if they exist, but I don't have any, yet.
aeoliandave
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"You'll be happier with a Hoover"
Oh, I'm happy, you betta believe it!
I meant the Model 28 upright.
Here is the 1950 ad for the previous Model 50 with the braided hose same as the 28.
Love that Aerodyne floor tool...is that for real? Was it abandoned after one year? Does anyone have one they can post a picture of it?
Oh, I'm happy, you betta believe it!
I meant the Model 28 upright.
Here is the 1950 ad for the previous Model 50 with the braided hose same as the 28.
Love that Aerodyne floor tool...is that for real? Was it abandoned after one year? Does anyone have one they can post a picture of it?
mb_1981
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Dave, where is that thrift shop located at that you posted a picture of?
Dave....
...I'm absolutely in love with that red Royal Canister...even the tool saddle, that thing looks cool! (And you don't look too bad yerself!) But I have to ask, do you wear heels, a gingham shift, and a Stepford-wife-smile when doing your housework?
...I'm absolutely in love with that red Royal Canister...even the tool saddle, that thing looks cool! (And you don't look too bad yerself!) But I have to ask, do you wear heels, a gingham shift, and a Stepford-wife-smile when doing your housework?
Knowing your track record, you will find the caddy and tools within the next six months. You have a completely presentable machine at the moment, since you have wands, hose, and floor tool. So much the better when the other things show up!
aeoliandave
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Gingham Boxer shorts - it's a blue collar working class neighborhood. Mustn't draw too much attention. Tan workbooks are the high style on this side of the tracks. Stepford Style Perfection lives across the river on the hill or out in the New Development in the mortgaged Monster Homes with the leased BMWs, Audis, Volvos and Cadillacs in the driveway because the two car garage is stuffed with all that other junk bought on credit like the treadmill and the fancy riding lawn tractor for the 1/4 acre of perfect lawn.
Down here by the railroad tracks - literally one block away - ya wanna have a pickup truck preferably lurched diagonally across the patch of rutted muddy grass in front of the rotting porch with the Sally Ann stuffed furniture. Ok, so that's how my neighbors, The Boneheads, keep up with the Jones's. On the other side of my corner, The Rednecks keep two beater pickups and a rusted out Chevette lined up in the driveway.
I just try to fit in as seen by the condition of my about to fall down Garage Door due to be replaced any weekend now that Spring is Sproinging.
Shirts? I don't like undershirts or Ts and I do like pockets for all those notes and paperclips and elastic bands and screws and stuff, so I maintain the pretty by habitually wearing two contrasting double pocket cotton shirts every day, ironed to crisp perfection each morning. In Summer it's two short sleeve double pocket shirts...until I'm out on the boat and the shirts come off. LOL
Down here by the railroad tracks - literally one block away - ya wanna have a pickup truck preferably lurched diagonally across the patch of rutted muddy grass in front of the rotting porch with the Sally Ann stuffed furniture. Ok, so that's how my neighbors, The Boneheads, keep up with the Jones's. On the other side of my corner, The Rednecks keep two beater pickups and a rusted out Chevette lined up in the driveway.
I just try to fit in as seen by the condition of my about to fall down Garage Door due to be replaced any weekend now that Spring is Sproinging.
Shirts? I don't like undershirts or Ts and I do like pockets for all those notes and paperclips and elastic bands and screws and stuff, so I maintain the pretty by habitually wearing two contrasting double pocket cotton shirts every day, ironed to crisp perfection each morning.
In Summer it's two short sleeve double pocket shirts...until I'm out on the boat and the shirts come off. LOL
I am crying from laughter reading this thread!
You guys are so funny! I often thought of doing a racy stand-up routine using vac terminology in all sorts of funny ways. Though the real world hears "bags and belts" and thinks "fashion accessories," I think of vacuum cleaners. And don't get me started about crevice tools....
This mini-meet is sure to be fun, even before you guys starting popping open the beer cans.....
Would love to come and introduce myself in person but alas, on Sunday I have a date with my stainless steel Connie - we are going to clean my over-priced "shoebox in the sky" apartment and get it ready for the upcoming Passover holiday.
Hopefully another time soon, Pete and Dave!
Brian
You guys are so funny! I often thought of doing a racy stand-up routine using vac terminology in all sorts of funny ways. Though the real world hears "bags and belts" and thinks "fashion accessories," I think of vacuum cleaners. And don't get me started about crevice tools....
This mini-meet is sure to be fun, even before you guys starting popping open the beer cans.....
Would love to come and introduce myself in person but alas, on Sunday I have a date with my stainless steel Connie - we are going to clean my over-priced "shoebox in the sky" apartment and get it ready for the upcoming Passover holiday.
Hopefully another time soon, Pete and Dave!
Brian
aeoliandave
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The Mayers De Luxe Model T-12
In better shape than I thought from the ebay pictures. paint speckled with minor rust pimples that can be touched up with nail polish or auto touchup dropper.
Solid cast aluminum dust bag cap and handle painted battleship gray. metal body. Heavy and motor runs up & down fine but the fan vanes must be blocked as it only pulls 15".
Outfitted with a temporary hose.
In better shape than I thought from the ebay pictures. paint speckled with minor rust pimples that can be touched up with nail polish or auto touchup dropper.
Solid cast aluminum dust bag cap and handle painted battleship gray. metal body. Heavy and motor runs up & down fine but the fan vanes must be blocked as it only pulls 15".
Outfitted with a temporary hose.
