Super J / Golden J in disguise - factory refurbished

[blknblu]

I was going to use this for parts, but it looks too nice.
I love the hammertone finish.
You can see the original gold paint in certain areas.
Check out the Silverado style handle.
The wheels look similar to the refurbished 1205 on the Electrolux poster. (no metal hubcaps)
I assume the paint is similar to a Silverado?
I don't own a Silverado, but the paint looks close.

 

[human]

That's definitely unique.

 

[mchmike]

I had one of those it went to my spouses mom in Colombia.

 

[blknblu]

Well, I found out why it did not turn on
Electrolux and water do not mix well.
And it is not a Super J motor. Most likely replaced when Electrolux refurbished it. (Electro Motor)
I have a some spare brushes and an extra motor for a plastic canister somewhere.
Looks like the bearings could use some help also.
Last pic shows it next to my Olympia One, my son has my Super J.

 

[blknblu]

As I took the motor apart, something was rattling.
Guess what?

 

[floor-a-matic]

I've never seen a blue Olympia before; did U paint it blue?

 

[blknblu]

The blue Olympia One, it was completely done over.
The axle holders are made of pot metal, not steel on the metal body canisters.
Mine were snapped from rough handling (I think dropped), and I had to fabricate something.

 

[blknblu]

Well, with new bearings and carbon brushes it actually runs.
I was concerned since there were loose bearings everywhere, including the fans.
The motor runs quieter than my Olympia One, but still has plenty of suction.
For now, I'll leave it, and restore it later.
I vacuumed the whole downstairs with it & a Sidekick.
The old bearings had to be carefully removed with a Dremel & a cutoff wheel.

Also, I always use a tiny amount of anti-seize on the motor shaft, and fan housings for easier removal later.

 

[blknblu]

Well the collection is constantly changing, time to take stock
I detect a pattern ..

 

[blknblu]

Clues point to this possibly being a Golden Jubilee, instead of a Super J.
Comparing it to my other vacs, I noticed ..

The 1205 canister has a depression on the top when you remove the cover.
The canister for the 1205 is 19-1/8" long.
The factory refurbished Electrolux I have looks similar with the cover removed but is longer (19-7/8"
When I looked at the pics from my Super J (which I do not have here) it looks very similar to the 1205 canister, but does not have the depression and is longer.
My Olympia One looks similar to the Super J.

So I am inclined to believe this is a Golden Jubilee.
The motor was replaced by Electrolux and is a later motor from possibly a Silverado or later.
The cord winder back is flush like a Silverado, and does not have a relief on it.
So, it looks like a mix of parts.
The model is 1401.

 

[KirbyCollector01]

If lt says 1401, it's a Super J

If it said 1205, it would've been a Golden J

 

[vacuumlad1650]

Kirby Collector
It may have been made with Mis-Match parts

Sven
It does have the Wide Fins on the bumpers that came with the Olympia One...if it's Longer it's a Super J. They had to accomodate for the longer motor. I saw a thread about that last month. Let me look for the link
Andy

 

[vacuumlad1650]

Thread Number
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Post number
68849

Reply Number
8

Andy

http://www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?6151

 

[blknblu]

I understand your points, but this vac has a depression on the canister, unlike the super J's. It could be a very early super J.
It looks like it came after the 1205 & before the Super J.
As I pointed out, it is a long body.

If you notice, just behind the cutout where the power switch is, it is missing the screw hole as well.

Very unusual canister, thats for sure.

The later covers do fit this one, but without the screw hole, the front handle will not be able to be fastened. If you look, this one does not have a front handle.

Anyway, I have decided to use it to resurrect the rusty Silverado I have.

 

[blknblu]

Nuances intrigue me,

the model number on the door does not interest me.
Doors can be changed.
I was intrigued by the long canister with the depression.
Also, as I lined up the models, I noticed the latch differs as well from the 1205 up to the Silverado.

 

[human]

Looks like you've got a 'FrankenLux' on your hands! I suppose Electrolux could have refurbished it from their parts bin.

 

[blknblu]

It may be a FrankenLux, but it is most certainly a Golden Jubilee at the core.
The depression on the top clinches it, as shown in this pic I found from an older post that shows one with the cover removed.

 

[vacuumlad1650]

The super j has that depression too
Andy

 

[blknblu]

fair enough
I do own a Super J, but my son has it.
I rebuilt it so long ago, and never paid attention to the canister.
My aunt needed a handle for her Electrolux, so I gave her one from one that I had.
With this particular vacuum, it has a later motor in it.
Even though I replaced the brushes and cleaned up the armature, it still has a burning smell to it. The bearings were shot, and I think the motor is done for, even though it still runs.