Some Hoover Vault Finds...
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Model 67
is the one that started it ALL in this house. Mine was bought in May, 1961. It was borrowed, used, and abused. It's still here, in need of repai. So THAT is what it looked like NEW thanks.
is the one that started it ALL in this house. Mine was bought in May, 1961. It was borrowed, used, and abused. It's still here, in need of repai. So THAT is what it looked like NEW thanks.
seamusuk
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Tom
Will pop ya one that will do the job in the post in the next few days
Seamus
Tom
Will pop ya one that will do the job in the post in the next few days
Seamus
chestermikeuk
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UK Hoover Senior 652
Wow, thats one pretty machine, well done Tom, thats a keeper if ever I saw one!!!
The serial numbers you require are:
JS. 10,001 - January 1959
JS. 37,500 - July 1959
JS. 346,000 Closed January 1962
Cheers, Mike
p.s I shudder to think what you`re saving for the Grand Finale from this side of the pond!!! a Hoover 507 Conquest perhaps!!!
Wow, thats one pretty machine, well done Tom, thats a keeper if ever I saw one!!!
The serial numbers you require are:
JS. 10,001 - January 1959
JS. 37,500 - July 1959
JS. 346,000 Closed January 1962
Cheers, Mike
p.s I shudder to think what you`re saving for the Grand Finale from this side of the pond!!! a Hoover 507 Conquest perhaps!!!
seamusuk
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The 652 and bags etc
Hey Tom
With regard to the Hoover being on the "wrong" side ive discussed the Vinyl bags with a couple of other UK collectors and the general conclusion is that they were sourced fron North Canton rather than being made over here. I presonally think this for a couple of reasons- firstly no other UK machine has a vinyl bag and I wouldnt have thought it would have been worth equiping Perivale with the equipment to make them for the one model. Also the later 652 version has the Grey cloth bag from the 652A, but with Burgundy flecks in the fabric and a vertical burgundy stripe running through the Hoover lettering. I should be aquiring one of these fairly soon
. Im guessing we changed when the 67 ceased production at which point NC would have stopped producing the Pink bags.
In the case of yours id guess it was shipped from Perivale without a bag and a 65 one was added once it got to the Vault??
Hope this kinda helps lol!
Seamus
P.S to Mike- tut tut its actually a Deluxe 652...
*Starts running*........
Hey Tom
With regard to the Hoover being on the "wrong" side ive discussed the Vinyl bags with a couple of other UK collectors and the general conclusion is that they were sourced fron North Canton rather than being made over here. I presonally think this for a couple of reasons- firstly no other UK machine has a vinyl bag and I wouldnt have thought it would have been worth equiping Perivale with the equipment to make them for the one model. Also the later 652 version has the Grey cloth bag from the 652A, but with Burgundy flecks in the fabric and a vertical burgundy stripe running through the Hoover lettering. I should be aquiring one of these fairly soon
. Im guessing we changed when the 67 ceased production at which point NC would have stopped producing the Pink bags.In the case of yours id guess it was shipped from Perivale without a bag and a 65 one was added once it got to the Vault??
Hope this kinda helps lol!
Seamus
P.S to Mike- tut tut its actually a Deluxe 652...
*Starts running*........
seamusuk
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One more
The cable will be replaced with the original Pank type by the time it gets here
The cable will be replaced with the original Pank type by the time it gets here
seamusuk
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oops..
I wrote that at work but couldnt post it for some odd reason!- the late 652 has my name on so to speak and should be arriving shortly .......
Seamus
I wrote that at work but couldnt post it for some odd reason!- the late 652 has my name on so to speak and should be arriving shortly .......
Seamus
seamusuk
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I really really...
Must not post when Ive been drinking........
Didnt think Id mentioned I was aquiring said machine...
*Shuts up and goes to bed*
Must not post when Ive been drinking........
Didnt think Id mentioned I was aquiring said machine...
*Shuts up and goes to bed*
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Seamus...
Thanks for the information. I was under the impression that the UK 652 came with the vinyl bags not cloth. I saw one on You Tube and it has the same vinyl bag but with the printing on the other side. It makes sense that it was shipped here from Perivale without a bag. The bag on the machine is like a US model 67 bag but made from model 65 material. Are these models hard to find in the UK? The Convertible model 65 is a hard to find model here simply because of age. Thanks again!
Mike...
Thanks for the serial number information. I wish that there was a Conquest 507 but no such luck!
--Tom
Thanks for the information. I was under the impression that the UK 652 came with the vinyl bags not cloth. I saw one on You Tube and it has the same vinyl bag but with the printing on the other side. It makes sense that it was shipped here from Perivale without a bag. The bag on the machine is like a US model 67 bag but made from model 65 material. Are these models hard to find in the UK? The Convertible model 65 is a hard to find model here simply because of age. Thanks again!
Mike...
Thanks for the serial number information. I wish that there was a Conquest 507 but no such luck!
--Tom
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Deluxe 652
For most of the production run, the UK 652 did come with the vinyl bag. Towards the end of the production run, they switched to the cloth one Seamus posted the pictures of. I don't know when the change-over occurred, we're getting a bit 'modern' for me!
It's hard to say which is rarer; although more vinyl-bag machines were sold, they were more fragile, and it's rare to see one intact. An all-original vinyl-bagged 652 sold on eBay last week for £165. The hood-warping syndrome this model suffered makes it all the more tricky to find a good example.
Both me and Simon have videos of our 652s on YouTube. Here's mine:
For most of the production run, the UK 652 did come with the vinyl bag. Towards the end of the production run, they switched to the cloth one Seamus posted the pictures of. I don't know when the change-over occurred, we're getting a bit 'modern' for me!
It's hard to say which is rarer; although more vinyl-bag machines were sold, they were more fragile, and it's rare to see one intact. An all-original vinyl-bagged 652 sold on eBay last week for £165. The hood-warping syndrome this model suffered makes it all the more tricky to find a good example.
Both me and Simon have videos of our 652s on YouTube. Here's mine:
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Jack...
Thanks for the update on the 652. I never thought that I would own one. Your 652 is beautiful. Did you restore it or is it all original? You are correct about the early vinyl being very fragile. I have seen many early "Convertible" models that have stiff vinyl jackets to the point that they are crispy! I was very surprised to find that my 652 was very soft. It must have been all of those years in the dark box that preserved it. The hood warpage was a problem on our 65, 66, and 67 models. Some fared better than others but most of the 65's suffered from this ailment. I cannot thank you enough for your reply.
--Tom
Thanks for the update on the 652. I never thought that I would own one. Your 652 is beautiful. Did you restore it or is it all original? You are correct about the early vinyl being very fragile. I have seen many early "Convertible" models that have stiff vinyl jackets to the point that they are crispy! I was very surprised to find that my 652 was very soft. It must have been all of those years in the dark box that preserved it. The hood warpage was a problem on our 65, 66, and 67 models. Some fared better than others but most of the 65's suffered from this ailment. I cannot thank you enough for your reply.
--Tom
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Hi Tom...
Glad to be able to help!
My 652 originally belonged to my friend (and Vacuumland message-board poster!) Clark, who found it chucked in a skip, of all places! Somehow it had survived it's violent abandonment totally unscathed. He named her Rosie, and she had pride of place in his collection. Last year, in preparation for his upcoming wedding (he's now happily married), he listed Rosie for sale on eBay. I couldn't pass up the chance to give her a good home, so I hit Buy It Now!
It didn't need much work; just a decent all-over clean, and some white spirit to remove the paint scuffs from the chassis and hood, and the dirt from the flex and furniture guard. Then some furniture polish to bring out the shine. All the parts are original to this machine - no donors were involved!
Glad to be able to help!
My 652 originally belonged to my friend (and Vacuumland message-board poster!) Clark, who found it chucked in a skip, of all places! Somehow it had survived it's violent abandonment totally unscathed. He named her Rosie, and she had pride of place in his collection. Last year, in preparation for his upcoming wedding (he's now happily married), he listed Rosie for sale on eBay. I couldn't pass up the chance to give her a good home, so I hit Buy It Now!
It didn't need much work; just a decent all-over clean, and some white spirit to remove the paint scuffs from the chassis and hood, and the dirt from the flex and furniture guard. Then some furniture polish to bring out the shine. All the parts are original to this machine - no donors were involved!
Rosie's a looker alright. Glad she ended up with you.
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One thing I cant work out..
Is what possessed Hoover to make the next version - the 1st incarnation of the 652A battleship grey, bit of a comedown after the pink lol!
Seamus
Is what possessed Hoover to make the next version - the 1st incarnation of the 652A battleship grey, bit of a comedown after the pink lol!
Seamus
hey tom,
I love your collection, I would love to have a new in box convertible and some of the JC Penney cleaners, Also do you know when they converted the convertibles to top Fill type A bags, I have a model 4349 that is top fill, wondering when it was made
I love your collection, I would love to have a new in box convertible and some of the JC Penney cleaners, Also do you know when they converted the convertibles to top Fill type A bags, I have a model 4349 that is top fill, wondering when it was made
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Seamus...
I agree with you about the change in color to grey. Although I find it too a very pretty cleaner since it was so different than anything we had here.
Jack...
Thank you for introducing me to Rosie officially that is. She is a beatiful machine and has been well preserved. She is in very good hands and will live the pampered lifestyle now. It looks like her switch is a darker red than what is on my machine. My switch is bright red. Any thoughts? Could this just be a result of age?
Sam...
Thanks for your kind comments. The Convertible went to the type A top fill bag on the top line 1977 models that had the new square handles. Later most all of the line had the top fill bags. I think the last of the bottom type C bag machines were built in 1988 or so.
--Tom
I agree with you about the change in color to grey. Although I find it too a very pretty cleaner since it was so different than anything we had here.
Jack...
Thank you for introducing me to Rosie officially that is. She is a beatiful machine and has been well preserved. She is in very good hands and will live the pampered lifestyle now. It looks like her switch is a darker red than what is on my machine. My switch is bright red. Any thoughts? Could this just be a result of age?
Sam...
Thanks for your kind comments. The Convertible went to the type A top fill bag on the top line 1977 models that had the new square handles. Later most all of the line had the top fill bags. I think the last of the bottom type C bag machines were built in 1988 or so.
--Tom
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On/off switch...
I'm not sure about the on/off switch, Tom - all the UK 652/652As I've seen have had the darker, burgandy/maroon switch, like my 652 has.
Does your switch look like it's painted, or is the plastic itself that bright red?
I'm not sure about the on/off switch, Tom - all the UK 652/652As I've seen have had the darker, burgandy/maroon switch, like my 652 has.
Does your switch look like it's painted, or is the plastic itself that bright red?
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Jack..
Mine has the bright red plastic throughout. I notice that yours is darker. I just wondered if you had ever seen one with the brighter red switch. I find that it is a little in the way. I like how they put the foot switch on the base on the later models. However, this set up is very cool and unique and I have to say very well made. I am always impressed with the quality of the UK machines in the 50's 60's and 70's. The UK plastic based 652s or 6525s were much much better made than our plastic Convertible models. Thanks for the insight!
--Tom
Mine has the bright red plastic throughout. I notice that yours is darker. I just wondered if you had ever seen one with the brighter red switch. I find that it is a little in the way. I like how they put the foot switch on the base on the later models. However, this set up is very cool and unique and I have to say very well made. I am always impressed with the quality of the UK machines in the 50's 60's and 70's. The UK plastic based 652s or 6525s were much much better made than our plastic Convertible models. Thanks for the insight!
--Tom
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Sam...
I did not pick up any Concept machines from the vault. I have the first set of four from 1978. I also have a 1983 Concept II but that is really all that I have room for. They are a very well made machine that really cleans carpet well. You would be surprised at how many are still in use around town!
--Tom
I did not pick up any Concept machines from the vault. I have the first set of four from 1978. I also have a 1983 Concept II but that is really all that I have room for. They are a very well made machine that really cleans carpet well. You would be surprised at how many are still in use around town!
--Tom
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