Smaller... Check.

[eurekaprince]

My problem with the Dyson Motorhead canister.......

When the first Dyson canister arrived in North America (with the troublesome turbo carpet nozzle), Consumer Reports rated it very well when it came to cleaning everything except carpets and rugs. Dyson indeed has an ongoing problem with cleaning carpets well, as good as they are with cleaning other surfaces. I have a major complaint about the new North American version of the Motorhead. I find the telescopic wand far too bulky to use, and you can not remove it from the hose to connect attachments directly to the hose, like you can with the non-power-nozzle version. So again, Dyson's attempts at adding carpet cleaning to a very good suction canister have failed in my opinion. What's the good of a canister vacuum if you can't dust a shelf full of books with ease - the non-removeable wand puts your hand much too far from the dusting brush to do this with ease.

 

[rolls_rapide]

I had a Dyson DC11 for a spell.

I found it noisy, poor turbo carpet nozzle, hose seemed too short, and the exhaust Hepa filter kept 'popping' out of its clipped-in position.

Changing the subject, I should like to see a Dyson Digital Motor cleaner with core separation, cope with cold black soot from a fireplace. My bet is it won't. And the soot will bypass the cyclones, penetrate the filter, contaminate the motor, and dirty the exhaust filter. Just like it did to DC01, DC03 and DC11.

 

[brandon_w_t]

DC11

That is one of my favorite dyson vacs. What are you asking for it?

 

[vintagehoover]

Rolls_rapide:

I don't think you're meant to vacuum soot with any brand or style of cleaner - it sounds like it would make a horrible mess! In fact someone I know just threw out a perfectly good Sebo X1.1 because she'd used to to clean the fireplace and clogged the whole thing with soot! I would have offered to sort it out for her, but she'd dumped it before I heard about it

 

[rolls_rapide]

Soot

Nonsense, I've seen boiler maintenance blokes using vacuum cleaners to clean soot out of the works, ever since I was knee-high to a grasshopper. (We had oil-fired central heating in the early 70's, and I distinctly remember the guy using something that looked like a Goblin Aquavac).

More recently, I have seen a Numatic 'Henry' used for the same purpose.

Dyson instructions allude to using Dyson cleaners to pick up small amounts of powder, because they know that the machines cannot cope with large amounts.

Also, a DC05 was seen on BBC national television as not being able to cope with a load of soot. It was an episode of a project to build the most environmentally friendly and efficient house, somewhere in England, probably London, about 2001. Presented by Carol Vordermann.

The vacuum cleaner segment was presented by 'Ian Beale' from 'Eastenders', and three cleaning ladies got to use the machines.

One machine was the prototype Electrolux 'Trilobite' robotic cleaner. Another was the Dyson DC05 cylinder, and the last was an egg-shaped tank machine that converted into a 'coffee table' by means of a ring that sat upon it.

Test 1 involved cleaning cramped office space. The user of the Trilobite sat and watched it.

Test 2 was cleaning stairs. The Trilobite was placed on a tread but wouldn't work, as was to be expected. Egg/coffee table machine had a stretchable hose, but they couldn't get the cleaner to balance on a tread! Numpties! That was why that hose was present; to leave the machine at the bottom of the staircase.

Test 3 involved cleaning white rugs in a stately home, soiled with chimney soot. Dyson DC05 only picked up so much then it clogged. Egg-shaped machine picked up much more than the Dyson. The robot cleaner was slow, but it had good performance too, and you could see the rug was efficiently cleaned where the Trilobite had been.

 

[vintagehoover]

To clarify, I meant domestic vacuum cleaner - you might keep a Goblin Aquavac (etc.) in the garage for DIY clean-ups, but you wouldn't use it as an every day carpet cleaner, surely?!

I can't comment on the results of the tests shown on programme in question because I didn't see it.

As for the Trilobite, I'm not about to spend £1000 on a dustbuster-on-wheels which takes the fun out of me doing the vacuuming myself! I'd rather buy 5 regular vacs!

 

[hoover_elite_20]

on a different note of all this

ok so i've been reading these posts and i'll bet that some of you dyson haters own a fathom vacuum, which we all knoe is extrememly closely related to a dyson and uses the ecact same technology

 

[kirbykid1]

No they use different technology. The Fantoms had dual cyclonic. Which worked Ok but the H.E.P.A filters clogged up and alot of dust went into the motors

Dysons DC07 and after all use 8 root cyclones. It has the one large cyclone that spins the large particles of dust, hair, fur, grit and so on. Then they go through the shroud (plastic piece with the little holes) and into the high efficency 7 cyclones. This spins nearly all the dust out of the air.

There is a big difference in how well they work. Very BIG difference.

 

[hoover_elite_20]

i know this

but the same CONCEPT of centrifugal separation is on all dysons. some dysons even had dual cyclonic technology. the same puff of dust also happens when you empty them that all you complain about. They all use the same idea.

 

[kirbykid1]

Yes the Dysons sold in the UK and England before the DC07 which would be the DC06 DC05 DC04 DCO3 DC02 and DC01 all had dual cyclonic action. I have found that if you would rather take out a common dust bag like a kirby or empty a compact or Filterqueeen I find its very easy to take it outside and shake the cyclones and dump it in the big garbage can.

 

[shanonabc]

Been a while since I have been on... As for the DC22DDM... I can't believe that... Not saying it is not true... I do believe you Evan... I suppose I have just gotten used to the whole 6 months thing and have trouble believing it could go seven years...

Am I rambling? Its 1am here and im tired... I think Im rambling lol

 

[rolls_rapide]

DC06

That was Dyson's attempt at a robotic cleaner, but it never made it to the shops.

There was the price, for one thing; somewhere is the region of £2,500. Also, I was told that the battery capacity was dismal, causing the cleaner to run out of power after a very short time (something like 10 minutes).

Dyson call centre once suggested to me that possibly one or two DC06 cleaners were sold to wealthy Japanese businessmen.

 

[shanonabc]

DC06 was a great idea... I have a short video of James Dyson explaining it... Email [email protected] if anyone wants it...

Not sure about DC06 runtime but I know that it had enough oomph to clean an average sized room... And it charged in 45 minutes...

I have heard rumors about Dyson working on a corded DC06... Email me for that patent docco too

 

[turbomaster1984]

I can also testify that Dysons are one of the worst cleaners for losing suction after owning 4 of the pieces of that crap and use one in my part time job,

all different models suposedly improvements on the previous model and all have failed miserably.

Dyson did the only thing he could to make his cleaners look like they do something by using clear plastic bins and a cyclonic system that fluffs up dirt and triples it or more in volume.

While folk may fill their Dyson with each use the collected fluff is hardly compressed, which is why you empty the dust cannister so often.

Bagged cleaners compact the dirt hence why the bag dosnt need changing so often.

Im sure if bagless was the way then Miele would have used it a long time ago.

Not to mention that dysons brushrolls are useless at removing grit embedded in carpets.

Only today did I use my Miele cylinder in my part time cleaning job where I usually use a Dyson upright (which I also maintain regularly by washing the filters monthly or suction drops so dramtically)

The Miele literally wiped the floor with the Dyson and I ended up with 1/3 dustbag of grit and another 3rd of fluff.


Im now old and wise enough to know that a house cleaned with a Dyson is a dirty house.


~One day bagged cleaners will regain popularity when they are seen as a new and more hygienic way of managing dust.

BAGGED ALL THE WAY YEE HAW!!!!!

 

[brandon_w_t]

Hmm

Not sure if a convertible or that hoover would be my choice before a Dyson. Those are low end machines compared to some vacs today.Even dyson

 

[vintagehoover]

'I'm now old and wise enough to know that a house cleaned with a Dyson is a dirty house.'

I guess anyone who likes Dyson is just stupid, then Rob? Glad you're around to clear that up for us.

 

[vacfanatic]

Dyson Approval

I have a DC07 and actually enjoy it. Even though they may not be the best deep cleaners for those of us with real thick carpet pile, they are still great vacuums in my opinion. Even so, my DC07 does pull up a LOT of dirt and grit from the carpets. The suction at the hose end is pretty impressive, compared to other bagless vacuums I have tried. Everybody has their own view on different types of machines and their abilities. I’m actually craving a brand new Dyson to add to my collection.

 

[kirbykid1]

For once I would agree with Brandon I would take a broom over a hoover made after 1957 any day!!

Everybody makes a fuss over convertible I for one cant stand a convertible. I have never seen a company who was that hard headed that they would change the design. My dyson will repeatedly pull out more sand (which Hoover used to demo grit anyways!!!!) out of my carpeting then my hoover convertible Elite.

They have hardly any tool suction airflow isn't that great either.

Filtration- My cotton shirt will hold in more dust then those things. If I put my shirt over my mouth I could probably suck up more dust anyways.

Rob I really appreciate being called a idiot. If I or Jack because we both own Dyson are idiots then James Dyson is a idiot too? The person who invented the blade less ceiling fan. Yea a blade less ceiling fan. Of course Tom Gasko has one James sent it to him for free. Thats only 1 or the 8 new products being launched. The Funny thing is only 1 of the 8 is a vacuum cleaner. Dyson made washing machines and anymore is more known in a america then Hoover. Except Dyson isnt going to crash and burn.

Andrew you should really think about getting a DC17 they are awesome machines. The have the best brush roll of all Dyson and are actually designed to work at 110 volts. Since the other models were also sold in the UK and England they would run faster and the cyclones work much more efficiently. First time we brought our Dyson home I could not get it out of my mothers hands. She loved cleaning with it because it was just like a Fantom thunder just with 6 more cyclones and more airflow and suction.

I have been selling lots of machines to family and have been making a small profit. I opened a savings account and Im saving up to get a Dyson baby DC22. From of course Tom. It will have a incredibly low serial number because Tom was the first person to order them. It will have the Digital motor which will turn out more suction then 5-10 kirby combined. With almost 200" of water lift it will have as much as a central vacuum except your pulling it behind you. I will get it when me and My family travel to see Tom this summer at his house.

I must say I have not used a hoover for more then three months and Im not going through withdrawals. Jack you and I should not have graduated since were so stupid for owning a Dyson. Cheers to a vacuum that actually works.

 

[petek]

What's this Dyson bladeless ceiling fan, that sounds very intersting,, do you know more about it? something like the fan in the Dyson hand dryer maybe

 

[vintagehoover]

Some of that famous "non-compressed" dust. No drop in suction. No bag to replace. Just 2 clicks and you're ready to go again.