Simplicity Wonder canster vacuum review

[kirbylux77]

Oh, and by the way Harley, when I was referring to sheisters & slimeballs, I am referring to vac shops like the one Alex works at, & similar ones like it. I have heard horror stories about just how badly some customers have been treated, misled, & scammed with shoddy, poor repairs. And like I said, that's the reason a LOT of people have those opinions of them.

I am well aware of the legal hot water Tacony had gotten into. They learned from it, & moved on. Maybe you should do the same & give the company & it's products a chance.

 

[s2_82]

Mark,

Just curious how common are central vac units in the UK?

 

[sebo4me]

Hi Steve they aren't very popular in the UK. There is an MD and Vacuflo dealer and one or 2 others but i'm very pleased with mine

 

[kirbysthebest]

As they say, opinions are like rectums;everyone has one. The trick is to not display both in public. Amazingly, the Simplicity you show is not the Wonder.  Please share with us your experiences with the Wonder.


 


As for the OP representing the business.  Though it was videoed at the location, No where that I saw did he mention the business name.  He also did not display his face, nor give his name.  Hence I don't see any representation. 


 


There are bad vacuum shops, there are good ones.  I would be shy of labeling someone bad from one video I did not agree with.  I would also deduce that he is still employed because he is a good vacuum tech, who's primary responsibilities are not sales. 

[this post was last edited: 8/3/2017-07:40]

 

[s2_82]

Great to hear, Mark it's hundred times better than what you can buy nowadays especially in big box stores, well at least here it is.

 

[sebo4me]

Yes I agree Steve.

I've been to Ohio. Columbus. Nice city

 

[s2_82]

Great to hear Mark, it's always growing and changing.. I still haven't made it out there yet though maybe someday haha

 

[eurekaprince]

I think Alex underates the new "Wow" bare floor tool from Tacony. This excellent combination of microfiber pad working with the vacuum's suction is not common in the tool sets provided by most manufacturers. It really offers an excellent way of sweeping and dusting and wiping bare floors all at once. I would not have been so dismissive of the unique design. I wish all bare floor brushes/tools had a similar microfiber pad. Miele - are you reading this? Nice to see Tacony joining Shark and Dirt Devil and Filter Queen offering this kind of attachment to the consumer.

 

[drsnuggle]

I concur with eurekaprince

If you look at the Miele parquet twister (one favorite tool of mine) it is all about power and suction. In Europe we will have vacuums at 900W or less. So some resoursefulness is needed. A padding added to a nozzle is such a thing and I know about two vacuums that has done this, some Shark models and Thomas parquet turn-around-nozzle (Thomas is an unknown German Brand which tried to compete with Rainbow during 2008-. Well, they lost I suppose.).

eurikaprice: you seem to be a moderator. Please tell me if I respond to often otherwise I would not know (I am sort of starving to speak with others about my interest. Where I live there is none). The pictures are of a Thomas Turn-Around parquet nozzle I have and the Miele parquet twister. You can see how the Thomas has added an extra row of hourse bristles and a plate of padding compared to the Miele Parquet twister. All to aggitate dust and dirt stuck on the floor. I believe that the Miele Parquet Twister was designed during the days of 2200W motor vacuums and that it is not up-to-date with current events. [this post was last edited: 8/4/2017-17:48]

 

[eurekaprince]

Jakub...I am not a moderator here, just a plain old "cleanerphile" like you and most of the rest of us!!!

I certainly don't feel you are posting too much! The more exchange of ideas and thoughts, the better! And certainly having a vacuumlander from the birthplace of Electrolux is of benefit to all of us here...so feel free to join in the conversation whenever the spirit moves you.

 

[n0oxy]

wow tool

The wow tool is great, I've actually thought about getting the Miele parquet brush with an adapter to use with all of my canisters and central vacs, but I wonder if the wow tool is better. Another advantage to the wow tool is that it will swivel, not many floor brushes will do that. Another great one is the Wessel Werk turn and clean, model d330, I haven't decided on the Miele brush yet.
Mike

 

[electromatik]

I consider myself a reasonably fair person so here goes:

I found the video biased and harsh. You clearly are pushing Miele. However, I find many flaws with Miele products, though they are very good machines.

The broken part on the hose was concerning, but as roughly as you handle things, I'm surprised anything you touch works... Not sure that reflects poorly on Tacony or you...

I've never seen your videos before I don't think, even though I do view YouTube videos a lot regarding vacuums. I only understood about 50% of what you said due to your failure to speak clearly and enunciate. You also speak when away from the camera mic and when rattling plastic and parts, which increased difficulty hearing.

There were a few things your video revealed to be true and which bias couldn't hide. The pigtail cord on the nozzle is not the best of designs, I agree. The nozzle is very bulky. The video makes clear that the Wonder and Prima will not match the Miele in noise as both the machine and the nozzle are louder than the Miele. That is disappointing to me more than any other feature.

I wasn't interested in the Prima or Wonder machine anyway, but that noisiness just removed any possibility of buying it. I've had noisy vacuums all my life, I want something better when I buy again.

 

[n0oxy]

noise of the Prima

The Prima is actually a very quiet canister, unless this has changed with the new motor they are using, it's one of the quietest canisters available, the only other canister I know of that has a similar sound level is the Electrolux Ultra One. That power nozzle did seem much louder than when I saw a prototype at the vacuum convention earlier this year. I would consider the Prima and Wonder to be just as good, if not better than a Miele canister. I do also think the review was biased. I've written several reviews here, and I think the best way to review a vacuum is to describe it and say what you like and don't like about it. There will be things about each vacuum that you may not like or think should be different and that's fine, that's what makes vacuums so interesting, many different designs. But it's not good to say that if a vacuum doesn't work the same as your favorite model, than it's bad and should not be purchased. I think the only review on this forum where I have actually compared machines was when I compared the Rainbow and Sirena, but even then, I tried to be clear that there are advantages and disadvantages to both, and they are both excellent water filtration machines. I do have a Miele C1 olympus, a Riccar Prima and a Simplicity Gusto and I think all three are very good cleaners. Certainly the new Tandom air power nozzle gives Tacony an advantage that no other power nozzle currently has. As far as the nozzle restricting airflow when cleaning hard floors, while it may be convenient to clean this way, you should not be using a power nozzle to clean hard floors in the first place, even with the brush turned off. Remove it and use a hard floor brush. I have the regular Wessel Werk nozzles that use a standard neck size rather than the size Miele uses and have not had the issues that have plagued the Miele nozzles, but I have heard of this happening with several users.
Mike

 

[rvarley]

Having used Miele canister vacuums for almost 20 years and a Prima for the last 2, I think I'm qualified to comment on my experiences with the vacuum and about the review.

I absolutely agree that the non-caster rear wheels on the Prima make it harder to maneuver than the Miele with it's 4 small casters that people have complained about - especially on hard surfaces where the Prima rolls much too easily but cannot be pushed sideways because of the fixed rear wheels.

The tool storage on the Prima is also not good. Tools ALWAYS fall off from either location no matter how far they are pushed on. I've had the crevice tool wind up in the toilet. Needless to say, I don't use the clips anymore. I've heard no end of complaints about Miele tools being too small. The size never bothered me and the neat, on board storage is great.

The telescopic wand is clumsy and that huge button to extend/retract it has already broken off once. Fortunately, it could snapped back together. The Miele wand is smaller and feels of higher quality.

I've heard it said that Prima / Wonder are quiet machines, but they are not quieter than Miele canisters. Not even close.

The carrying handle on the Miele is more comfortable than the Prima and Miele has more places to slot the wand so it can be parked upright on the machine.

Overall, the Miele seemed to me a better engineered machine.

Now this is not to say that the Prima is unsatisfactory. It does cost considerably less than a high end Miele canister. And it does a decent job vacuuming. And the tools, when I'm not picking them up of the floor or out of the toilet, are quite nice. But if I had to do it again, I'd probably spend the extra money and get the Miele.

As for the review, it was clear which product the reviewer preferred, but as a long-time user of BOTH brands, I'd have to say that it was a good review with valid points.

 

[electromatik]

thanks@rvarley

That was a fair comparison.

I didn't think there would be an issue with the tool clips but I suppose that has been dispelled. As the hose wiggles around, it should be a given that they will be worked loose.

I don't find Tacony canisters loud but I found this one louder than the others by a significant margin. That power head was rather screamy and much louder than the bigger models. Having the extra motor in the power head prohibits it from being as quiet as those without-which is a disadvantage. Not to mention always being bulkier.

You've made the *second* indication that the machine is easily damaged. The wand retraction/extension button is a major part that should be solid.

I really wish Miele would correct some of their issues that prevent me from buying one. A Miele with bigger tools, longer hose, and a parking slot for the power nozzle would be what I would want.

 

[eurekaprince]

Though I love my Miele C3, I guess I am in the camp that does not like the small rear rotating wheels on the back. On a bare floor, it will not roll over its own electric cord. Canisters with conventional large rear wheels can be pulled up in the front by the hose and then pulled over the cord with ease. My beloved Miele can't do that and stops dead in its tracks. I have to go over and literally pick it up to get it rolling again. It really is not a "deal breaker" for me, as everything else about my Miele is great! The deluxe FreshAir C3 that I have comes with a longer than usual cord, hose and telescopic wand, and I love the unique SpotLight handle.

 

[rvarley]

@eurekaprince - as hard as it may be to believe, the Prima rolls too easily on hard floors which can cause it to smash into things, an the inability for it to go sideways is a big inconvenience.

But another plus for the Prima is that it came with the best mini power nozzle I've ever used. I don't think it's a Tacony made piece, but it's much better than the others I've had.

And yes, Miele parts and additional tools are expensive. But if you want the best and have the money to pay for it . . .

 

[eurekaprince]

It's so interesting how each canister vac has it's own mobility quirks and oddities. It's been a challenge for vacmakers since day one to get these vacs to move the way a user would want. Sleds, tracks, big wheels, small casters, Constellation floaters, etc.

I am used to a canister traveling in-line with the direction I pull the hose from. It's bizarre to watch my Miele on a bare floor when I pull on the hose: it looks like a puppy whose rear legs are moving faster than the front legs! It always moves forward on an angle - never straight! It's almost like the heavier back part with the motor gains more momentum than the front part and it rolls faster than the front part. Weird!

But I still love the thing...best suction-only canister I've ever used.

 

[blackheart]

HEB

The HEB mini power nozzle is a wessel werk product the HEB-160 given a unique neck to fit the wonder series. I've purchased one in preparation for the Tandem premium canisters.

 

[luxlife]

If I could only make 2 suggestions for the Wonder.....

1.) I'd ask Tacony to make the bags available boxed in larger quanitities than 5 or 6 per box.

2.) Or, perhaps an "auto ship" program that would allow the customer to determine how many bags they need per month?

I already know I'll be using lots of bags. I've barely had my Wonder for a full month and I've already used 2. On a positive note, they don't stay in the machine long enough to start smelling.