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I found a dealer in VA (who loves to talk) and bought the genuine replacement hose over the phone.

http://www.rvavacuums.com/

Ray Satterwhite... and when I mentioned vacuumland, he said "I know that that guy...he wants to buy some old vacuum cleaners from me!"

I'm a little sad about not shopping local, but this seems best.
 
Wow

Great you got the hose from a dealer you like!

I just took a quick view of his web page via your link...he has an excellent page. I just watched the 1980 Olympia One commercial, (last video down on the left column). CEO Charlie McKee is advertising that the Olympia One will still be working in 20 years in 2000 with (routine maintenance). And here we are 40 years later with many of these machines still working just fine...my Mom’s Olympia One which her Mother bought in 1982 is still running beautifully...only maintenance ever on it was hose replacement one time with a genuine.

It’s funny, in the ad he mentions...will your washing machine still be running in 2000?...interestingly enough my Mother has her Mother’s 1979 Maytag was her and it is still running today. My 1985 Maytag is still going strong. New Maytag are Whirlpool clones nowadays due to a buyout and Whirlpool scrapping the legendary mechanical design that lasts forever.

Check out Automaticwasher.org...it’s the twin site for washers and dryers.

The guy he is likely referring to from the web site is probably Charles Lester...His screen name here is Electrolux137 and has an amazing collection of Electrolux machines and of Electrolux History. He started these web sites and I think any donations by upgrading membership go towards his web hosting costs, but you may wish to email him directly with any questions if you wish to contribute, he would be the one to consult on how best to do so since you asked earlier.

Unfortunately we are seeing less and less Aerus/Electrolux branches existing anymore as cheap bagless vacuums flood the market via big box stores and the days of door to door sales are gone due to no one wanting to answer doors and empty homes during weekdays as the age of the stay at home housewife is gone to a degree. If a parent stays home with their children, it’s usually just for the young years, then both parents are back to work.

Dyson came out with their bagless vacuum and brilliant marketing flood8ng the market with those James Dyson the first vacuum that never loses suction” ads which caught on making it an almost overnight success and a household name, and while it is somewhat better than other bagless machines, to me it’s still not as good as an Electrolux or Kirby or Rainbow but a lot of people have bought into it.

I’ve had numerous Electrolux’s and most of my family has at least one or more of them. I have several myself and have given some away as well. I enjoy the product and since it’s what I grew up with I have a hard time finding anything I really like better or equally as much. I actually have my Grandmother’s Electrolux on my Father's side and it still runs beautifully. It’s a model XXX and she bought it new when my Father was a little boy....10 or less...he is 84 now.

Oh, also, you should know that typically the switches on the Silverado's tend to wear out. So if the machine stops running, it could be the switch. It’s a cheap part and easy to fix...I think it’s around $10 from Aerus. To replace it you take the 3 top screws off, one in front between the Automatic Control writing and and two more screws under the blower door when you slide it open, lift off the cover carefully and you’ll see the switch mechanism, it just unscrews and unplugs via slide on terminals on the ends of the wires.

I’ve had a few go out on some of these series of machines. Usually if the motor goes, it won’t be a “suddenly dead” situation so if it won’t work, it’s likely the switch, especially if when you open the bag door with it plugged in and the switch on and the red light is not on, likely there’s no power getting through the electrical system. Could be the cord or cordwinder too. But these issues are less frequent.

I’d be curious to see which color hose they are sending out at the moment. Let me know what you end up with.

To care for your new hose they suggest avoiding bending it sharply when storing it, so take it off the wand for sure, if not off the entire machine if you store the machine upright. Also be mindful not to bed it sharply repeatedly close to the handle, these would be highest points of wear and I’ve seen the generic rubber ones start to rip through there, haven’t seen a genuine one do it yet, but I just like to be careful myself anyway so my hose lasts as long as it possibly can. Also, don’t carry the canister in an upright position by the hose attached to it, I’ve caught myself wanting to do that and have said, yeah, this likely isn’t a good idea! I might give this guy a call to see if he has a hose for one of my older models, apparently Aerus is discontinuing them...but the last model it fit was made in 1979 so that’s over 40 years and I guess they have decided to stop supporting machines that old and older. Apparently I got word of this from a member who went to an Aerus dealer in California.

Jon
 
A few photos and a short video

Joshua.....Needed to cleanup crumbs in the kitchen and dining room today. Have a small rug by the sink so thought I’d snap a few photos of the combination tool in action. I made a 20 second video showing me flipping the tool around but the site here won’t let me post a video. Anyway, some people get confused on how to flip it once they take it he nozzle off the elbow until they get used to how it works, since the nozzle had three openings. The easiest way to remember which is correct is that the elbow always gets inserted into the rectangular hole with the metal rim around it on the side of the nozzle. So when flipping the tool, you’ll spin it around from side to side rather than rolling it over. Sometimes it’s easier to pull it off, then spin the piece that gets inserted 180 degrees and reinsert the nozzle back on, then orient it on the floor with “This side up” facing up. You’ll get the hang of it.

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Radiowonderland wrote:
I'm a little sad about not shopping local, but this seems best.

I reply:
I get that but you are supporting an independent business, just in a different community, which is almost as good, considering that independent Electrolux dealers are a bit of a dying breed. The one in my city shut down several years ago and the closest one is about 40 miles away. At any rate, I'm glad you found a good hose. That will keep your Silverado gig fo years, if not decades, to come.

Jon wrote:
I’ve seen the generic rubber [hoses] start to rip through there, haven’t seen a genuine one do it yet...

I reply:
I own one. Ironically, it came to me with my Silverado. The handle was totally trashed and there's a one-inch tear in the hose just south of the handle. I sealed it over with RTV silicone and if and when I find a replacement handle, we'll see how well it lasts. Someone on here suggested sealing it with Flex Tape. I may give that a try if the silicone doesn't hold. I have enough other hoses that repairing that one hasn't exactly been a priority.
 
That famous dusting brush, I loaned a old Panasonic upright to the kids for some time, I had included an aqua flipper elux dusting brush in its tools,they wouldn't give the brush back! No way Jose! On another note, being silly I promise! My brother commented about having me creamated one day! I said just suck me up with the old suckolux! No mess,no fuss! He replied do you really think that sucker will still be working? My response oh hell yeah
 
Not surprised

My Sister said she was going to bury an Electrolux with me if I go before her...I insisted absolutely NOT! Don’t ever do that to a good Electrolux someone could get good use out of. Though I’m not wishing to be buried either!

They should all be sold off or given away to friends or acquaintances who would appreciate them.

Yes, many of those dusting brush get confiscated by those who discover how convenient and fun they are. When I had a housekeeper, I wouldn’t let her use the genuine one for fear it would disappear, I put out a set of Kenmore dusting brush and upholstery tool for her use with the Silverado!

It is Particularly useful for those of us who vacuum out the car. In fact, that was primarily how my Mom introduced me to it, she was vacuuming out the station wagon and of course, as a vacuum fascinated toddler, anything that involved using the vacuum I was right there watching or insisting “I wanted to do try”. I know it was under the age of 5...probably 3 or 4.

An Electrolux man showed me how to fix a broken flip leg on it, he gave me another leg, then told me to warm the base of the unit running it in a hot water stream, then the base will flex to open some so you can get the leg out and replaced since the hinge pins need to come out of the holes. I’ve done this a few times now successfully. You just don’t want to force the hinge pin though, as it can break off so be patient and keep warming the base under hot water.
 
I've never seen any dusting brushes with a broken side. I've seen them with worn brushes which indicates they got good use.

We have to remember these dual tools were made long before they came out with the sidekick which I would use over the older furniture tool anytime.

I wish they would make an electrolux dusting ONLY tool, without the wings/folding furniture tool part. I would be fine with that.

I do have a dusting tool that came with some Central Vacuum that has a similar thick horse hair consistency, but I don't know what brand it is.
 
You can get that!

Electrolux did make a dusting brush with just the bristles when they made the XXX and LX back in the late 30s 40s and 50s! They also had a white bristle dusting brush too. They pop up on eBay periodically. Very cool looking because they are a round half circle with a hole in it for the hose end or wand...no traditional neck like most of us are used to! I’ve seen the mostly in metal but also some in plastic.

It is rare to have the wings break off on the dusting brush but since I’ve run across so many people with Electrolux’s and acquired many myself, one with an already broken wing, I’ve seen a few that have broken and the generics that look nearly identical...those hinge pins in mine Both broke off one wing and one on the other wing pretty quickly attesting to the generics poor quality plastic yet again. The new generics that are more squared in design seem better but the bristles are sparse and a mix mostly of plastic with some horsehair mixed in, certainly not as bushy as the originals were. But certainly it’s rare to find a damaged one. The tool came out in 1953 with the model E and even back then was very durable. I have two that were from the Model E series based upon the coloring.

Jon
 
Lux Dusting Brushes

This thread caused me to get out two of the Lux round dusting brushes.  The one on the right is the XXX dusting brush which I have always loved. Indestructible. The one one the left is plastic with the white dusting bristles. The interesting thing about that one is that it is in the Silverado colors which meant they made it all the way up to the 80s. Now I’ll have to use them. 

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To change the bristles you have to pry gently from the outside with a flat screwdriver to release the metal ring that hold the bristles in from the clamps in the bottom of the head
 
Nice looking hose...

It's definitely a third-party hose, given that the handle has a power switch and a sliding suction control but that's not necessarily a bad thing. It should give you many years of good service. I actually like having a power switch on the hose and wonder why Electrolux/Aerus never included one. It's very convenient to be able to instantly shut off the power nozzle without bending down to hit the switch on the vacuum or on the power nozzle itself, if it is so equipped.

One small maintenance note: You should periodically check and tighten the screws on the underside of the handle. They have a tendency to work themselves loose, especially the one forward of the switch. This happens to both of my generic hoses that have pistol grips. I have a third one with a little straighter handle design that, while not as comfortable to use, does not exhibit this tendency.

Enjoy your new toy!
 
Note

Note that the person posting the “unpacking my new hose” was not Joshua, the person who started the thread looking for help, so I found this post a bit misleading. Joshua purchased a genuine Aerus hose but he hasn’t posted much lately. Just to clear up any confusion.

Anyway good luck to both on both purchases. Glad you all are excited with your purchases, both genuine and third party!

For those who have several vacuums, the third party generic hoses will likely last a good long time because use on them will not be as frequent as those who have only the one machine that gets used for every vacuuming occurrence like Joshua’s, henceI think he made the best choice to spend the extra dollars to buy a genuine with its somewhat better quality.

Jon
 
Jon, there is a significant number of people who come to vacland, Aw.org, and any number of other websites just a few times to fix a problem they are having. Once they find the help or information they need, they no longer have a need to return to the site.

To people like ourselves who are dedicated collectors or aficionados, someone looking for advice on a vac is just a split second distraction or if it's a vacuum that we know something about, we enjoy educating the inquiring party.
But you shouldn't believe that you are converting them from a typical casual user to a new life long hobbiest.

I mean you've been here for a while apparently.... this can't be a total surprise. Look at the archives and you'll see those who pass thru vs the dedicated.

I've been one of those passer thru people in other subjects on other sites.

You did very well educating the party looking for hose help. And thread, like many others, will no doubt serve other people in the months and years ahead when they have a similar problem.
 
Putting the hose together with my Ultralux Classic

first, it's all alone without the hose, impaired, incomplete, lonely, downtrodden, disadvantaged.

We check that it has a fresh bag

Then plug it in getting it ready by turning it on. Life is returning.

A suction test with pieces of a tissue ripped up. The excellent suction is breathing life back into this vacuum.

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Now the hose is added and a happy smile and warm energy eminates from this Ultralux Classic.


 


Testing the hose. It easily attaches to the body and detaches.


 


Also fitting it to the power nozzle and trying the suction regulator.  No problems.  The switch is handy and convenient.

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Sidekick

Someone mentioned that the plug on this new hose is a bit wide and doesn't connect well with the Sidekick.


 


It connected fine with the standard power nozzle.


 


My experience has been that yes, the receptacle is a bit wider than it should be, so I measured it.


 


The socket on the Sidekick is a bit smaller than 11/16ths wide


 


The plug on the wand is a bit larger than 11/16th.


 


So yeah, it wouldn't fit as is. Trimming the two side of the wand plug is easy enough by carefully using a sharp utility knife.


This will take off two slivers of plastic and have no negative impact on function.


 


It's the only 'issue' I've found with this hose.  It's a small price to pay for an attractive, affordable hose.  

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And finally

Vacuuming with the lighted power nozzle. It quickly picks up those pieces of tissue.

Trying the dusting tool and flip furniture side.

This vacuum is complete again with a new hose that gives it all the functionality and suction it needs to be it's best. It's a happy Ultralux Now.  
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Hoses for Canadian models

These don't seem to be as easy to come by, even through the supply houses. I've been looking for a while for a replacement to my ZB89 canister.
 
Very nice that the hose works for you and you were able to find a solution to get it to work with your sidekick. There is another brand of generic hose as well with the swivel handle, its handle is similar but slightly different in design close to where it is connected to the hose and the that may not be an issue with the sidekick, I had one of those with a Silverado...I can’t remember if ai ever tried the sidekick with it or not. I agave the vacuum away to a friend without a sidekick as I only have one. And there is the third generic one with the gas pump style handle.

That’s a nice Ultralux and nice matching power nozzle. I got one just like it but the power nozzle was the opposing colors...the beige cover with blue bumper. I like yours better. I got it for a friend who asked me to get her an Electrolux off eBay for her when she saw me using my Electrolux in her home on a remodeling job I was doing for her. Is the back of your cordwinder blue or the trim color? Mine was the trim color which I thought was odd because I was so used to the backs of the cordwinders being the body color from the 1205 through Silverado series. My Marquise cordwinder back is trim colored.

Yeah, I could tell Joshua wasn’t going to be a regular! He just came in for some help and glad we could get him going, but one never knows, he might check in again.

My Brother in law did same on Automatic washer.org when he needed help for something on his washer. I don’t spend as much time there myself but have gone there for a problem I had but do visit occasionally since I am a big fan of original design Maytag washers and Dryers and have 2 of them myself and more in the family.

Jon
 
My memory isn't what it used to be, but I believe the much bandied about Super J motor carried on in models after the Super J, including the Silverado. I think it was the Diamond J that started with a new motor design, albeit much maligned.

In the early 2000's, you could still get a good generic hose for an Electrolux tank. But after that they got really cheap.....didn't matter what price you paid; chrome was cheap and often flaked off, OD's were all over the place. I used to restore Diamond J sets and give them to family/friends. Only complaints I ever got were the generic hoses.

Aerus is definitely the way to go for a good hose....but they're over $100. And if you have $50 or so into your vacuum 'find'....that's a tough pill to swallow.

Kevin
 
Jon wrote:
He just came in for some help and glad we could get him going, but one never knows, he might check in again.

I reply:
I would count myself in that group. I first found this site in December 2013 after I rescued a Kirby G6 from beside a dumpster and needed/wanted a little information about it. Once I found the information I was after, I checked out for a couple of years until I scored a Royal Prince 501 handheld at a thrift store for $2 and change. After that, the sickness set in; my fleet has grown from three or four machines to 24 and I've never left.
 
"...After that, the sickness set in;"


 


Yes Vacland and AW.org have facilitated and provided a breeding ground for those deprived, degenerates, like us, who would take pleasure in repairing, collecting, and obsessing over appliances.   At times in histories past the likes of us would be suffering away in miserable conditions in a state run mental ward. Now only a fraction of us is in a place like that.  We're basically living life on the run knowing that any moment societies judgement could go against us and we'll be punished for the vacuums we love.  Oh the horrors.  
 
Ha!

Well I must say that for people like us...years ago it would be appropriate for us to become vacuum shop employees, owners, salespeople and the like. There will always be people into something or other and I am not looked at that oddly when people hear I’m into vacuums. After all, someone has to be...right? The inventors of most all of these brands likely were vacuum cleaner fanatics. I recently was looking at the prolux web site and they have this huge page all about how they developed a bagless commercial backpack vacuum that actually forces the dirt away from the filter so the filter takes forever to need cleaning. They even compare to Dyson and point out Dyson’s faults. Interesting tidbit I learned was that Fantom was started as one of James Dyson’s failed prototypes.

So the prolux people are obsessed with vacuums too and no one would look at that oddly because they are using their obsession to make a product that people need and want.

I found this because I was suddenly just looking around to see what kinds of canisters are on the market today at big box stores and saw the prolux canister on target’s web site and the reviews were very positive particularly about the level of suction. I somehow decided to go to the prolux website to find out more on that and what other machines they make.

We enjoy interesting and quality mechanical items. I about as fanatical about my Aerus/Electrolux’s as I am about the old Newton, Iowa factory built Maytag washers. I have everyone in my family now has at least one because they rarely need any repairs and if so, are generally easy repairs and since I know how to do most repairs on them I can help my Brother or Brother in law, or Father deal with it even from long distance but repairs haven’t been needed except on mine and my Parents and I was there on both occasions, one time it needed belts as I could hear a thumping and could stop the agitator by hand and the other the hose from the tub to pump split when I was visiting and doing a load of laundry. I wiggles the tub quite a bit and I think that caused the original hose from 1979 to finally crack.

Jon

Jon
 
It's just a fact of life on Internet forums; people come in for help & advice and then leave....mostly forever. You see the same in car forums et al.

I have the opposite problem. I join a forum, dig in, get sideways with a few members who think they know everything and talk in absolutes, get p*ssed off an leave.

I have to remind myself constantly that if I'm arguing with other members, I'm not really relaxing and having fun...so what would be the point of continuing? YMMV.

Kevin
 
Yes...in these forums...

We must remember to respect that everyone has their own opinion and that’s ok and while we might be certain we might be right or know better or whatever, that we can voice our own opinion and then hope others choose to see each other’s point but also respect them for their differing opinion and just leave it at that than get over zealous and upset. Then that takes the fun out of this.

Jon
 

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