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Yes making them washable would be a good move. But it's not in their interests as it would hit their profits. The miele HEPA filter I have which is almost due for change does have a layer of charcoal
Not sure if the latest ones do. They have this time strip thing in them now to alert you when to change them
I don't take any notice of that. Supposed to get 50 hours out of the filter so i just estimate how long I use it weekly and work out roughly when 50 hours of use will be. I get about 2 years out of it.
 
And you are correct there are higher levels of HEPA filtration for critical situations but they would be too expensive for domestic vacuum cleaners.
 
Miele reach Hepa13 level but it can go up to HEPA17 level. Which removes 99.999995% of particles down to 0.1 micron. Haha that is going some :-)
 
Thanks oliveoiltinfoil for you detailed overview and pictures of your me SEBO Felix Vogue Eco. Interesting reading. Glad to here the new 700 watt Eco motor still gives the same performance against the original Felix. Loved the strip down of the ET-1 power head, nice to see the inside. The Eco Felix seems to look the same in design anyway. Wouldn't of thought removing though thin metal strips on the soleplate on the power head would make much difference, have you noticed any difference in doing so?Think they have changed the cable design where it leaves the handle at the top. Think they changed that already on the non Eco ones. I take it the Vogue just comes with the 2 standard tools?

Glad to here your enjoying your new Felix, hope it serves you well.

Not sure if I would upgrade my 7 year old Felix for the new Eco version while it's still working great. Still yet to change both pre and post filters. Would love an X series although the new Eco versions I would think would be the same as the non Eco models as there is only 200 watt difference on the X4 and 50 wattage on the X1.1. Must go and try the new Eco SEBO models.
 
Yes that's similar to Miele. Sebo fan you mentioned that people with allergies shouldn't be washing filters so I'll get my wife to wash them hahahaha :))))
 
Filters

I couldn't be doing with washing filters all the damn time. It's so messy and unhygienic to be coming into direct contact with all the dust. Not to mention the microscopic allergens that inevitably fly off the filter when you remove it from the vacuum and the user ends up breathing in. YUK.


 


Of course, the real problem with washable filters is that it's near impossible to remove ALL the dirt from the filter. It's never as clean as a brand new one.


 


I'll stick to throwing such items in the bin, thanks. Seal the bag up, no dust escaping, no dust cloud, no contact.
 
Great machine. I've used the 700 Felix and it was great, did not notice any huge difference between the 2 wattages.

I'd advise anyone against with a machine under warranty that removing the wires in the brush housing, lubricating the bearing block or metal shaft of the handle as it would invalidate the warranty.

Sebo have advised me that the exhaust filter should not require maintenance for a few years but is easily replaceable should you wish to change it. I did ask about washing but they don't advise it. By the looks of it though, it can withstand washing if one chooses. The 7 year old Classic still has the original filter on it and the performance has not been affected, it's only got carbon dust on it.

I love how aggressive the brush is on the Felix and whenever I use the Classic model at my friends place, I use it on number 1.
 
Haha that might be true. You might not be happy with washable filters but I would take a guess most would be. :-) If miele made there HEPA filter washable i would be very happy! :-)
 
And I agree I have been going on about the Dyson too much so I won't be mentioning again unless someone asks me about it of course :-)
 
Blakaeg my Felix Classic still has the same post motor fabric filter after 7 years and pre motor filter which is a bit dirty now. I must replace them at some point but it's not effecting the performance. Even the brush bar doesn't seem to have worn yet.
 
I literally can't make any thread about my new vacuum purchase without someone bashing be down for doing this or saying that.

The person who advised me on taking those metal bars out was a good friend of my dads who got his felix classic in 2006. He took the bars out soon after he got that, and that was 8 years ago and guess what? He has had 0 problems. NO PROBLEMS. It doesn't damage the vacuum at all! It is not mechanical, they are not their for strength, if they were they wouldn't have come out so easily, they would have been put there with tension. This guy is called Graham, he used to have a vacuum shop in the south before handing it to his son when he went into retirement,
and he strips down his felix and cleans it, and I means strips it down, even taking the carbon brushes off and inspecting them. Doing this must have done something as his felix looks and sounds like a brand new felix you can buy today. HE lubricates the bearings, sprays WD40 near the shaft of the motor, and now washes the exhaust filter in the washing machine. Of course SEBO are going to say "no don't do that" if it means they filters are lasting longer than they should. They are a business! They want your money!

Taking those bars out, I can not see how that has anything to do with balancing anything. The bristles to touch and overlap the bars but only slightly, not enough to push against the brush bar. I have found that by removing them, you get a genuine, proper clean sweep of agitation from each side.

At the end of the day, it is my vacuum. If I mess it up or damage it, I only have myself to blame, but based on experience on what I am doing and have done to the Felix's I have worked on, this doesn't damage them or effect them in any negative way. If it would have, I wouldn't be doing it.

Thank you @madaboutsebo. Yes, the vogue comes with a KOMBI tools, I shall post picture of if I haven't already.


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No I've not I know a bit naughty, to be fair the first 3 years I owned it I hardly used it that much as I still owned my Dyson vacuums. It's only been used regularly in the last 4 years. The pre motor filter has dirt on it not looking to bad and I've checked the post motor filter just has carbon dust on it. Performance is ok, since using the synthetic bags the airflow is better. I must change them though soon :-)
 
You've come onto this forum respectively to share your opinions Oli but you must also understand that plenty of owners on here regarding SEBO and other brands have their own experiences both from ownership and from contacting the actual brand.

SEBO aren't out to fob people off and both Blakaeg and I have had official responses from SEBO. It doesn't matter what your dad's friend has done and what he does to his own SEBO Felix. Suggesting taking anything off the ET-1 which is the Felix's main unit to why the design exists is a bit foolish. It may well work for you in your opinion but there are plenty of others here who have longer experiences.

As for washing filters - SEBO aren't a company who offer washable parts. But they are not alone as Miele also use replaceable parts to PURGE THE VACUUM CLEANER instead of reusing filters. As Chris rightly notes, washing filters don't clear them completely of the dirt already embedded.

Hence the introduction and invention of the SEBO DISCO polisher, which uses dry pads to polish a floor versus wet cleaning.

In general I have noticed that German companies don't wash and reuse things that are required to carry dirt UNLESS they have specific designs to contain it properly and have filters that can cope with being washed and cleaned thoroughly. Karcher spring to mind here, but they have a chequered reputation due to some of their cylinder vacs being poorly built against their more expensive wet and dry commercial upright (and a machine I would love to buy!)

karcher upright


Sebo Dart polisher/Felix Disco

 
Ya know whenever I feel down I can always come on here & read all the fighting/bashing over what??? A vacuum??? My entertainment has hit an all time low admitting this😪 & now everyone will know my secret to being happy all the time.... Read the brand bashing!!😁 it makes ya feel better knowing someone you've just bought something subpar that won't last more then a squirt of piss will😱
 

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