Sebo X4 Automatic - sensitivity of height adjustment

[alexhoovers94]

Ahh I just watched it...

Now I dont like the Sebo, but you have to realise, the Hoover Junior is a direct air motor with a tonne of airflow and the whole nozzel is open to the suction/airflow, all the debris you pick up passes through the fan and into the bag.

The Sebo is a clean fan upright which means there are many narrow tubes and ducting the dirt has to be sucked through to get to the bag and finally the clean air passes through the motor fan, many other older and modern clean fan uprights would of done just the same thing I suspect.

A Hoover Turbopower or Turbomaster would of blazed through that in no time and better than both of those.

Like I said I am not a fan of that X4 but this test was unfair.

 

[junior119]

Couple of responses.

@chris (Turbo 500) and Rob (Turbomaster1984)

Thanks for your message and welcoming comments. I know you're a friendly bunch: in fact I've not yet managed to meet an appliance collector that isn't friendly to be honest (hope no one proves me wrong now!!)

Not sure what went wrong and where, but apologies if it's my fault, but you and Rob seem to have got the impression I got the Sebo from JL ... I actually got it from an independent family owned department store in Sheffield (Atkinsons) where it cost £10 *less* than JL wanted for just the bare machine, *and* it came with a service box, extension hose and turbo brush all included in a "pet home deal' that was clearly put together by Atkinsons rather than Sebo as all the items came in their own boxes rather than bundled in a factory box. None of that matters except that I won't be returning it to JL (or anywhere else for that matter, now that I've sussed that the pot on the PCB adjusts the height).

@tolivac

Thanks for your message too. You asked about the HiFi speakers. They are Castle Severn MkII Floorstanding speakers (a review is linked below, but I'm not saying that review reflects my feelings, just that you can get more details from there).
Yes, the Hoover really does lift the carpet - which surely is the *only* way to properly clean a carpet?? - and you might also notice on the video that I'm not exactly pushing the cleaner slowly, but it takes at the very most two passes (one forward and one back) to shift the needles. And yes, the tree did shed a lot .... it actually didn't shed until I started to take the baubles and lights off, and then it just dropped the lot. It was a huge tree (almost 8 feet tall and a good 4 feet in diameter) and once 'undressed' I cut off all the branches and took them outside as that was easier than picking up the whole thing and battling to get it through the doors. By the time I'd done that there were hardly any needles left on any branches at all!



http://www.audioreview.com/cat/spea...-acoustics/severn-mk1/prd_119279_1594crx.aspx

 

[turbo500]

Dave, you're absolutely right! Just look at the market in the late 80's and early 90's. Clean air machines with onboard tools were becoming increasingly popular - Electrolux 600's, Contours, Hoover Turbopower 2's, Panasonic 40 series uprights and the most powerful of the lot was 800w. They all cleaned perfectly well with good hose suction too.

 

[alexhoovers94]

They were all so average at cleaning over the Dirty fan cleaners that were still hopping along, right up till the 00s.
Itis a no win situation, clean air uprights, for the most part are underwhelming in performance, but are quiet and have good hose suction, while with dirty fan you have excellent performance, but with weaker hose suction and louder noise level...And in some cases, poorer filtration than the clean air varients.

It is all about preference and ultimately both are going to clean the carpets quite well, but one will make those carpets last longer, but the way people live and move around these days, I doubt it is really a priority.

 

[alexhoovers94]

To anyone that doesn't know me, I am actually a very nice person and will always try to make people laugh. When it comes to my opinions, well, I say what I think and I will always speak the truth from my experiences and whether I like what I am talking about or not, I never sugar coat anything or make excuses, if you don't like that, well, I am sorry, but that is me.

 

[turbo500]

Dave, slightly off topic, but I absolutely love your Electron! They're fantastic machines .

 

[junior119]

Hi Chris,
Glad you like! Mum still has hers too ... Almost a year older than mine and the only washer she ever had until it got a rusty tub, then she bought Miele same as yours, but we got the Hoover fixed and the Miele got stored in the outhouse and the electron back in use. Touch wood no problems with mine at all.
Works so well and much better than anything new!
Best wishes
Dave

 

[tolivac]

I can now remember cleaning up after one of my Dads Christmas trees-He used to cut them down in the Black Hills forest near Rapid City,S.Dakota.The height of the ceiling in his living room was about 14 ft.He insisted on trees that tall and about 5-6Ft wide.You had to hoist them up thru the living room sliding glass doors-then lower it when Christmas was finished.He would cut the used tree up with his chainsaw then burn it in the fireplace.To clean up the mess-had to drag up his Craftsman shop vac-then clean the floor again with their metal Royal upright.A Sears Kenmore-not ghe older one-would then clean up other messes.
Thanks for the info on the Castle Severn speakers.From the reviews they seem to be liked by the hi-Fi fans that did the reviews.
My Dad now lives in a retirement home-so no more worry about his HUGE Christmas trees.Decorating those monsters was an all day job-but looked very pretty afterward.We didn't cut up the tree before lowering it-that was done outside since we needed a chainsaw tro cut it.And those trees were HEAVY!!!!Took all of us to lift or lower it.