Royal

[lesinutah]

Hey
I found this on classifieds. I offered $20 and they accepted. I don't know model number but I've seen similar royals made in 40s or 50s. Any info would be appreciated.
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[kirbyclassiciii]

Lesinutah

Les,

Going by the outer bag graphics, I know this Royal to be from 1949 to 1955. I guess this one is a model 215. Neat it also has the original braided hose!

~Ben

 

[lesinutah]

Hey

Thanks Ben for the info.
Royals with a hose are rare.
I'm going to probably get it Friday night. I have seen another member post a video on YouTube. It's the poster who I think has Christopher Walken as his avatar. Thanks again. Once I get it home I'll take a few pics.
Les

 

[kirbyclassiciii]

Lesinutah

Les,

You're thinking of John (0rnery) and his Royal 131:


~Ben

 

[tolivac]

Beautiful Royal vacuum!!!Looks and sounds GREAT-Did a super job on the colorful carpet-I could see the colors get brighter right after you ran that Royal over it.The 70 yr old Royal will BEAT the pants off the Dyson!!!!And--will the Dyson still be useable 70 yrs from now???

 

[rivstg1]

awesome find Les!!!

I'M envious!!!! tell us more about it once you get it and try it out, looking forward to more photos. Nice score you got there!

 

[lesinutah]

Hey

Hello again
I'm on my way to pick up the vacuum. It's hour and ten minutes away. I was trying to get sanitairre wide path for $10 but seller is not answering. I'm not driving this far again.
The royal is a 1 owner vacuum owner. The hose is taped somewhere. The seller seems in her 60s and it's her mother's. She may have passed not sure. Well I'm 10 minutes away. Messing around on my phone as I'm a paranoid front seat driver.
Pics will be on later today. If sanitairre seller messages me I'll post it but not likely.
Les

 

[lesinutah]

Pics

I got the vacuum. It's in descent shape. The pics of the cord I put tape on end so I could turn it on. The wires were Barre and I didn't want them touching potentially ruining vacuum. The hose is in good shape. The where attachments go is taped but I can fix that. The brush roll is toast.
I turned it on and the motor has sit for a long time. The springs on carbon brush popped out. Carbon brushes are dried stuck to motor or completely gone. I shit it off immediately.
I just need brushroll which I already have. I also have carbon brushes. I'm going to put heat shrink on cord fix that issue. It has a small hole in the bag. I'm probably going to glue a patch on. I'm not going to do much to the bag.
It's a model 235 c? If I read serial number right is 1947.
The widepath didn't work out.
If you go to the supermarket section Larry Reddy has an 880 royal. I bought it instead of an avalir.

 

[kirbyclassiciii]

Lesinutah

Les,

Not quite. I've noticed the nameplate indeed says "Royal Vacuum Cleaner Company" instead of "The P. A. Geier Company" (which it was known as until 1949), so therefore your cleaner would date from 1949 to 1953 and the black and red "lady bug" bag (with the red R-O-Y-A-L lettering on the black part) I see does match!

About that 880 you bought from larryeddy: I suppose that makes two 880s that you own (if you haven't sold the other one)! This 880 (also with a 4.5 amp motor) is newer, since I can see the headlight bulb warning label. I also noticed tools are included with it!

~Ben[this post was last edited: 11/18/2018-23:01]

 

[lesinutah]

Ben

Your right I have 2 880s soon.my other I need a fan for ir. I'm also have to check my 880 the armature fan was loose I think I fixed it but I need a fan. They run &60. I'm looking on eBay trying to fit it.
The royal stickers on front the royal insigna. I would also like to know wRning still keep on top.
I have a modern hygiene model 157.i have hand vacuun that matches the upright I got today..thanks
Lrs

 

[kirbyclassiciii]

Lesinutah

Les,

For your older 880, a replacement impeller fan would be part number 1-608004-000 (1/4" dia. shaft hole). May still be available, but check any sources that claim to still have it, just to be sure.

Here is one on eBay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ROYAL-META...066263?hash=item3d42673997:g:qWUAAOSwHMxZd6FB
(seller states this has the correct 1/4" shaft hole for your armature)

The newer 880's headlight bulb decal says: "USE GENUINE ROYAL BULBS OR 10-WATT EQUIVALENT."

~Ben

 

[lesinutah]

Hey

Ben
Thanks for the numbers for ordering.
The lights from 505 to cr1 are same bulb as royal. Well the bulbs from Kirby fit. I have a few LED lights for cr1 prior bulbs and cb1 to legend 2.
I have quite a few vacuums. I got another tradition. I got blue trim for my 519. I got blue emtor bottom, brush nozzle trim, headlight trim, power switch,handle lock and I'm using a tradition fork and cord to make an all blue vacuum.
I'm going to do 1 vacuum at a time. I'm basically hording vacuums. I'm going to finish sale over the winter.
I'm doing my all original 560 first. Then with the new ultimate g manual fixing up a g6 to give to my friend/co-worker.
That is tmi but all info on labeling power switches wiring etc. So thanks for info.
Les

 

[rivstg1]

Les, what is 'sale' you mention over winter?

Very cool that you're doing a blue trimmed old model. I have a dual s50 with that color that I'll be restoring next, just need a deep blue bag, love that color on old vacs

'Hoarding vacuums' , haha. Sounds like it. How many do you have that work and not parts vacs?

 

[lesinutah]

Hey

I have a royal with maroon anniversary edition vacuum I think the commuter on armature is bad.
I have 2 505s in working condition but not polished up. I have a 508 no bag using bag I bought from Chicago Mike. I have 2 509s one black Kirby top fill bag. The other has black Kirby sanatronic bag. I have 3 510s. 1 has a unique bag and it's it's my profile pic. I have a 505-512 motor housing I cracked the back axle off.
I have the 519 I'm using blue parts for. I have a 560 all original good condition. I have a 561 in descent shape that has a sanatronic bag. I have a 562 sanatronic it's all original I need to polish. I have a sanatronic 7 with sirocco trim and matching cord. It has Kirby sanatronic tan bag with. Tthe 562 sanatronic 7 and d50 I will mention have bag topper sanatronic on 2and dual sanatronic 50 on other. I have 2 d50s I have handle and forks one has tan non Kirby top fill bag. The other is the correct bag. I have 3 or 4 sanatronic oem bags.
I have 2 complete d80s with 4 complete forks. One has oem green bag. That bag has my bag conversion kit on it. The other is a green sanatronic top fill non oem bag with bag assembly. I have a 1cr everything original. It's tore apart it needs a new coil. I'll mention parts I have later. It has original brownish copper Kirby bag and patch. I have 2 traditions one is complete other I parted out for 519. I can still reassemble Im waiting on power switch. Both tradition and cr1 Have custom bag conversion. I have 2 legend 2 heritage 2 vacuums. 1 I have motor unit. I attached hose and portable handle. I'm using it as a cannisters vacuum. I took front micro matic axle put on my tradition. The other legend is complete with heritage bag set up. I have 2 g6s. One is polished almost put together I'm going to sale. The other I'm giving to a friend/co worker. I have a sentria i put newer emtor on. I have a riccar 6000 something it's green 12 amp. I have a blue riccar rsl in mint shape. I have a eureka imperial I got Friday. I washed the bag it runs great. I have a sanitairre s667 it's blue line version has power switch on handle. The sanitairre has new fan brush roll belt and has St bag setup. I tested it at 141cfm. I have a 2009 royal backpack vacuum ry4001. It's in good shape but only came with hose no attachments. I have a royal with dark blue bag type a setup. I've wiped it down but I need to polish it. I have my royal 880 I need a fan for. I have a 1920s royal/pa geier upright I paid shipping I got off here. I have royal in this thread.
I have about 5 or 6 armatures and field coils. They are from 505 to legend. Most are Omega tradition and heritage motors. I have about 8 bags with bag assembly on them. I have loads of black wheels a few grey a bunch of green a bunch of blue wheels. I have only 1 old power cord oem on 505. I have about 7 feet of a power cord Im going to attach to 7 foot cord. The 519 up all original cords. I have a 2 505 hoses. I have a 508 hose and a 510 hose. I have 3 metal coupler and adaptors. I have a 510 complete attachment set. I have a 508 floor polisher head. I have guessing 5 609-513 polishers. I have 2 or 3 sanatronic polishers. I have 4 d80 polishers. 1 with magic finger sticker. I have 4 or so d80 nozzles and belt lifters. I have a brand new d80 belt lifters with magic finger sticker. I have a green led light for d80. I have led lights for all vacuums. I have 2 green d80 hoses. I have every attachment/waxer for d80. I have handi Butler first year either 509 or 510 it's never been used. I have about 5 hoses g series in Gray color. I have avalir nozzle. I have avalir shampoo kits. I have 4 g4 to sentria shampoo kits. A large box of attachments. I have a bunch of parts. Most the extra parts I got in a sale I got 508 from. I had to take all the parts. I had a 515 bag I sold for $100. I've sold a bag for $350 on eBay. I've sold 5 heritage/ legends. I've sold bunch or s7 d50 vacuums.
The 560 is first I'm going to sale. It's in immaculate condition.
I only plan to keep 1 505 maybe a 508 tradition and blue 519. The rest I'd sale. I washed every bag except 2 old royal bags and 505 bag in washer. I'm going to keep one if not both 880s.
I'd sale any other vacuum. I was recently down to 5 vacuums and compiled more. I can polish and fix vacuums as well as anyone. I am going to do one at a time as most are half finished.
Well there ya go.
Les