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hello everyone here ! my name is romain and i live in france !I joined your forum yesterday and I find this place great!with lots of photos and valuable information for a young person like me new to the collection of old vacuum cleaners ! I would very much like to start my collection of vacuum cleaners made in the USA with a royal p.a.geier co !I am ready to pay whatever it takes for a vacuum cleaner that needs restoration with transport to France of course ! do not hesitate to contact me all proposals are welcome ! I thank you in advance Romain ([email protected] )
Sorry but I don't know if I posted in the right section of the forum ?

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Picture number two is a royal standard. The one in the picture is actually mine. There were several versions before that. Welcome to the forum.
 
Thank you very much Dysonman1 for this information, very useful for me !! I am studying the subject and I still have a lot to learn ...I have a large collection of antique fans from the GE brand (GE pancake) and many antique Edison light bulbs (I want to share with you a very old photo from the early 1920s of a vacuum cleaner dealer in washington DC)

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thank you gottahaveahoove! I like the HOOVER brand too, the vacuum cleaners of this brand seem very Robust! I saw it working on Kyle Krichbaum's youtube channel ! it' awesome
 
Romain!

Welcome Romain, I think you will enjoy this forum sight. The people here, many seasoned collectors, are quite knowledgeable and very generous with advise and info. You posted to the right section with your vintage vacuum queries etc. When you share those pics of the Edison light bulbs, then post those over in the "household" section! Although I don't think "household gets as much traffic as Vintage or Contemporary does so what you can do is mention that you've posted something over there while you're in a thread here just to let more people know!

I just brought a Royal metal upright in from where I had it stored for 24 yrs. I'm glad I made the effort to store it in a air tight container, disassembled with the bag freshly cleaned and folded, it looks great. I've never worked on a Royal so this will be fun to learn.

There are people here that also collect fans so that's there. Also if you ever have questions regarding washing machines or dryers, new or vintage, just pop on over to automaticwasher.com. Sorry went too long on this,so welcome and happy collecting! Billy
 
hello everyone !I may have found my happiness this morning !there is a royal vacuum listed on ebay but with a very high price ! I don't know its age, it looks in good condition, maybe some parts are missing from the handle the seller claims that it makes a little noise when starting (the motor probably needs a good cleaning) the seller just made me an offer with $ 200 off but only valid for 2 days ! what do you think of all this ? Can you advise me, maybe Tom Gasko who is surely the greatest specialist in old vacuum cleaners in the united states. thank you Romain

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thank you very much for your warm welcome kirbyklekter ! sorry i don't know your name ! i see you have a big collection !i'm a newbie !I would love to see pictures of your Royal vacuum stored in a box for 25 years .cordially Romain
 
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I didn’t realize that both your second and your third picture were actually my machines. I was planning on selling this one at this year‘s vacuum cleaner collectors convention in September. It’s only problem is the handle does not separate in the middle. It is hollow and is used to hold the cord that runs to the motor. It also doubles as the cleaning wand while used with the hose. The machine would have to ship in two boxes.

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thanks for your help everyone !you are all of an exemplary kindness with me !and I really appreciate ! I am aware that our dear vacuum cleaners are very rare and therefore very expensive ! and I would be extremely happy to do business with Tom who is a very great specialist on this subject ! I am ready to pay what it takes for the vacuum cleaner transport costs included ! and I pledge to take care of this magnificent vacuum cleaner ! Tom! I thank you in advance Cordially Romain
 
Hello everyone ! I just received in the mail this morning these 2 advertising magazines (royal breezes) on the subject of royal brand appliances in cleveland I realize that they also made hair dryers and electric vibrators.the magazines are dated May and August 1924 -number four and number 1 volume 9 these brochures should be available from dealer and appear very regularly At that time ! @ Tom are you still willing to sell me a vacuum cleaner of this type ? if there is need to make 2 packages for shipping the engine part, electric wire and bag is not a problem for me you can send the engine part first . tell me if you agree and how much is the price of the vacuum cleaner I could go to the bank soon and prepare a money transfer.
Cordially Romain.

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You might see if you can find an intermediary to buy it and ship it to you.

Also don't forget you will need a BIG step-down transformer to use that in 230-volt-land.
 
Oh that is AWESOME! I live not too far from there! I've never seen a Royal with the tag on the front like that, I wonder if there any left in the city...
 
thank you Hoover300 ! yes it is interesting ,there is 1 royal princess inside the store maybe a mid-range model compared to the purifier model ? I like the royalette hand model 😊
 
thank you MadMan ! maybe the seller will change his mind if he can't sell his machine! I have a huge 220-110 volt transformer in reserve that I bought a long time ago to run my old (GE pancake) fans
 
It's also interesting that just 4 years after the Electric Shop picture was taken, the top-of-the-line Purifier became a separate brand, called Electro-Hygiene. Here is a pic of my model 80 Electro-Hygiene, which was my first restoration project and to my knowledge the first model of Electro-Hygiene. The second pic is an ebay pic of the attachment set that would have been sold with it, which I bought last year.
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Thanks Jeff ! for all your information on the Electro-Hygiene !but what more did this model have compared to a standard royal model ?
 
Electro-Hygiene

The main thing that set Electro-Hygiene apart from Royal was the deodorizing chamber, or as they called it, the sanitizing chamber. It is located in front of the fan case on the straight suction models such as this one and trimmed in red. Revolving brush models from 1955 until 1966 had a crystal chamber that snapped on in place of the belt cover, and in 1966 the model 880 was introduced that had a flip up headlight and the crystal chamber was then located below the headlight. The sanitizing crystals as they were called were basically paradichlorobenzine moth crystals with .4% formaldehyde added and according to the sales pitch, when they were used in the sanitizing crystal chamber it killed the germs in the air while you cleaned.
The other difference between the Electro-Hygiene and the Royal was the warranty. While Royal only had the manufacturer's warranty, Electro-Hygiene had a warranty similar to Kirby, that included lifetime rebuilds and fire insurance for the original owner.
It's kind of interesting how Electro-Hygiene came to be, and how its early history is intermingled with that of Royal. When Philip A. Geier started the P.A. Geier Co. in 1905, it was a job order machine shop, and his main product was parts for punch presses. He built his first vacuum cleaner in 1910 and called it the Royal, and by 1912 devoted his full attention to vacuum cleaners. As the company grew, they added models, eventually building 3, which were the Standard, the Super (which may also have been called the Princess) and the Purifier. A young man named Arthur Frankenfeld began selling them, and had phenomenal success with the Purifier model, of which Philip Geier took notice. What was Frankenfeld's secret? He didn't just sell vacuum cleaners, but sold the customers on health, hygiene, and sanitation.
In March of 1934 they decided to spin the Purifier off as a separate brand in itself and it became the Electro-Hygiene, a wholly owned subsidiary of the P.A. Geier Co., with Art Frankenfeld in charge of the division. In 1941 Electro-Hygiene incorporated, with their machines still made by P.A. Geier.
I sold Electro-Hygiene in 1974, then again in 1976. I got to meet Art Frankenfeld at a sales convention in 1974, and he was every bit as charismatic at 67 as he was back when he sold the Purifiers!
Jeff
 
Thanks again Jeff! for all this valuable information ! I learned a lot today thanks to you !the glass bottle marked with a B in the store is an air freshener and disinfectant which is introduced on the base of the motor at the level of the suction chamber and then mixes with the dust before going into the dust bag ,this is a very innovative and early thing for 1929 there was nothing like that in europe at the same time !it is a great chance that you had to have met Art Frankenfeld in 1974 . Romain
 
You're Welcome!

Glad to be able to help, Romain! And hoping you soon find the vintage Royal that you have been looking for! When you do, I'm sure you will find it to be a joy to use as well as display.
Jeff
 
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