Rinsing a Dyson Shroud

[atrac]

Bad idea? I know the manual specifically states not to do it, but I have and the amount of dirt that drains out is staggering. It also takes many cycles to get it all out.

Is there a coating on the plastic that the water damages? Or is there fear from Dyson that a person won't let the shroud fully dry, thus possibly causing damage to the motor from the moisture?

I let mine dry for days before I use it. Haven't noticed any performance deterioration yet. In fact in my case it definitely helps. I have DC11 that really needed it and it the process rescued it.

Just curious...thanks!

 

[sarasvacshack]

Dyson Shroud

Are you referring to the Root Cyclone? We wash all of ours thoroughly before selling them, using a (rather strong) antibacterial cleaner and water. Never had any damage come from it, but if you do not let them dry....look out! Even "stink" will say it stinks!

 

[atrac]

Oh yes, by "Shroud" I mean the Root Cyclone assembly. Thanks!

 

[gsheen]

You need to dissasemble the cyclone system first , its easy on a dc14  it comes apart with just a few screws and then some tugging , other models it is eather very easy or very difficult , the only one you cant get completely apart is the dc07 as its glued together .


 


I never recomend rinsing them , as the dyson repair agents for SA we see some pretty bad things. the biggest problem is that if you do not disassemble it you don't get all the dirt out and you end up with damp dust even if you let it dry for a few days. it will start to smell. 


 


I would never use any form of anit bacterial or cleaning agent either as most of these carry some sort of degreaser and the cyclones have Rubber seals which will dry out and crack if you do this renderng the machine useless.


 


We use a pressure washer with a 4o jet to clea them. we also treat all the seals with a silicone spray.


 


If you have a dc07 remove the shroud and the top handle then wash out each individual cyclone with a pencil jet . these et clogged over time when customers over fill the machine. 


 


email me with your model and I can send you a diagram of how to disassemble the cyclone.


 


Gareth 

 

[vacuumfreeeke]

I have rinsed the cyclone assembly on my DC14 many times and it's always just nasty in there.... I let it dry out completely for about a week, and sometimes take a blow drier to it. I've never had a problem.

 

[gsheen]

do your self a favour get a tourx 15 screwdriver and undo the screws that are ubder the filter , remove that part and the white flange that sits ontop, then grab the mini cyclone and then the shroud and pull hard. you will now see all the dried mud you have in the machine clean that out and the machine. 


 


I will see if I can post some pics latter 

 

[mrb627]

Rinsing

I used to clean out my Dyson machine twice a year. Running hot water through the cyclone unit. And boy would it run black for a while. When it would begin to run clear, I would put my hand over the lower end of it and give it a good shake then go back to rinsing. Took about 15 20 minutes or so to get most of the gunk out of it. Then I would let it sit in the garage for a week before putting it back together. I think that is the only reason I got 10 years out of it. YMMV.

Malcolm

 

[thissucks]

you CAN do it but take your time and be careful, once apart rinse it with warm water and a cleaner if you want (mild ones only)

let it dry all the way.

oh yeah, do this outside, you WILL get covered in dirt.

 

[gsheen]

Ok so here is how to do it properly


dc14 ,0r 15 cyclone 


 


start by unscrewing all the torx screws under the filter 

 

[gsheen]

Lift it off and remove the cyclone top cover

 

[gsheen]

next with a tug pull the shroud of the mini cyclones , you may need to tug hard 

 

[gsheen]

next remove the funnel , there are 3 tags that hold it in , push on them gently and it will come off, You can gently heat it to remove it with ease ,USE a hair drier NOT a heat gun 

 

[gsheen]

Now your cyclone is apart , as I have said wash with water and be careful of detergents , they have grease removers in them and dry out rubber seals fast ( I am speaking from experience here) 


 


if you have take it apart like this it will take about 20 min in front of a cool fan to dry 

 

[lunchboxsean]

Boy isn't that bagless/cyclone/no loss of suction/whatever thing awesome?!?! I sure hate my Kirbys where you have to like change the bag every now and then and maybe wipe out the power head. And lemme tell you, when I clean it out I can't vacuum for like 10 minutes!!! You guys sure are lucky that your vacuum is only down for A WEEK!!!

 

[baglessball]

I dont have to pay a ridiculous amount on bags and belts so I am happy!

 

[gsheen]

This is a hotels machine , dc14 its used every day and is 4 years old , I sold it to them and its the first time its in for a service, they just had extensive building work done so it was time , Its used by cleaning staff so its not well looked after.


 


You need only do his if you have bought the machine second hand and you don't know if the previous owner looked after it.


 


I do my own machine once a year when I service it  

 

[lunchboxsean]

Yeah, 5 bucks for 3 bags and 2 bucks a belt... OUTRAGEOUS!! You know what's ourtrageous? $600 for a vacuum that doesn't clean any better than a $200 Hoover Windtunnel... Though I prefer $50 for a 10 year old Kirby that will last another 50 years.

 

[lunchboxsean]

OK... So I've just realize that my last comment sounded kind of rude. I'm not trying to be a d*&$, just trying to spur some good conversation. My apologies if I offended anyone.

 

[gsheen]

Hey Sean 


 


Its not offensive, I have a windtunnel aswell . the thing with a dyson is that its suction stays stronger for longer than other vacuums, yes they do clog if you do not take care of them but I've been working on and designing vacuums for a long time and I've yet to find another vacuum thats suction stays constant like a dysons for under $1000.00 


 


many people compair dysons to kirby's or rainbows but you can't here in SA we can buy 5 top model dysons for the same as a basic Kirby or Rainbow.


 


Gareth


 


If you read James dysons book he did't want a niche machine like a Kirby or Rainbow but wanted his machine to sell whit the eureka s and hoovers of the world. Yes the prices are a bit higher than the hoover or eureka but not in the bracket of Kirby.


 


But like with any vacuum abuse it and it will break.


At the moment in my shop we have 4 rainbow's and 7 kirby's in for repair all damaged thru misuse 

 

[baglessball]

My main reason for liking stain is the constant power, I like seeing what I've picked up. Plus if I have 10minutes before the parents are coming and I have muck on the floor, hair on the sofa and cobwebs on my ceiling I'm going to go with dyson where I an get good results fast! I can't clean round as quickly with as gooder results as I can with a dyson. Im probably a bit biased as I'm overly used to dysons design, I have used them for years.

Don't get me wrong, I live Kirby, but genuine bags and belts in the UK are expensive, he does a great job, but is time consuming..

Daily dyson, big jobs and LOADS of crap on the carpet Kirby, carpet cleaning Rug doctor!

 

[lunchboxsean]

I think one of my biggest problems also with Dyson's is their reliability issues. Every vacuum shop I know has a love/hate relationship with Dyson. They hate to sell them because they know it will be back but they love the service business driven by the Dysons as well. I don't think the concept of a No Loss of Suction machine is unreliable by design because I have one of James Dyson's first commercial machines, a Fantom Fury. I never have problems with it, it has great suction, and it is incredible easy to maintain. It is not my daily because I believe it to be on the rarer side and will only continue to be rarer so I want to wear it as little as possible. I just think that Dysons are cheaply built and overpriced.

 

[thissucks]

sorry i have to spill it.

there is a loss of suction, it just happens slowly, seen plenty of them so packed that NO air will flow.

the thing is with a powerfull machine you notice little suction loss, such as a royal, sanitaire or kirby, sure its nice a vac wont loose suction room to room (which for a bagged machine takes weeks or months to notice anything due to the large bag size) but because of its turbulent tech, it looses alot of suction from the getgo.

the nossle design of the dyson is the worst ive seen, the hose is typicly all the way to one side, with a very broken path through the nossle, for it to work correctly you must suck out the dust as soon as you hit it with the brush, if it takes too long to get to the hose, the brushes just beat it back into the carpet.

they should do a study about how much dirt is put back into the air when you empty a bagless system, im sure its worse than not vacuuming at all.

dyson is not and should not be considered in the same league as kirby, royal, sanitaire, meile and the other vacuum store quality machines, it is a super market boxed machine, that is no better in durability compaired to the other chinese $100 vacs (infact some value vacs work better and last longer) they simply are not made to last more than a few years, and will not hold a light to the longevity of hoover convertibles, kirby's and old royals that have been around for 20,30,40 years. (personally i have a good working kirby 505 from 1945 and a 73 omega)

i work at a vac shop as a mechanic so, ive seen what comes and goes, we do not and will not sell new dysons, only rebuilt models, i could not sleep at night if i sold someone one of those tupperware nightmares.

use what you will, but know if you get used to it when you try out a kirby or something along those lines, you will realize there isnt a real compairison.

 

[gsheen]

I have been a R&d and test engineer for a few vacuum company's Not dyson however. I now own a vacuum shop and totally disagree with you. 


they are very well made , the plasic is very high quality abs. 


 


what I can't understand is you won't sell a new dyson but you will sell a rebuilt one??????????????? sound a bit odd . you will sell some one elses one that they've abused but not a factory fresh new one with a 5 year guarantee . 


 


Me thinks you make more $$$$$$$ of the rebuilt ones, I know I do.


 


If you don't think the machines are that good then why sell them at all.


 


I am very particular about what we sell in our shop new or rebuilt. 


there are certain dyson models that I don't believe are suited to our country so I won't sell them new or rebuilt 


 


I just bought a new miele s7000 cat & dog Its a great vacuum nice and quiet but its cleaning performance and build quality is the same as my dc28.


 


what did shock me on the miele was that after only 4 days of ownership the inside of the bag container had dust on it. I have never really liked these fabric bags and this is why , they all leak dust. so you will get just as much dust if not more on your hands as you would get from emptying a Dyson bin


 


 


 


 


 

 

[lunchboxsean]

They only sell used Dysons because they have to. What else does a vac shop do with a Dyson when someone trades it in on a decent machine like a Simplicity, Miele, Sanitaire, etc.?

 

[gsheen]

I trade in variouse makes I don't believe in almost every day but I never resell them we keep them for parts or sell them in the trade. If you don't believe in a product then you shouldn't sell it

 

[thissucks]

we warn people about them, we only have two lightly used models.

some people will not listen and insist on dyson, that is why we must have one or two on the floor, most end up in boxes or in the trash though.

you can do so much better than a dyson for the money, if they where priced like they should be $100-200 i wouldnt have a issue but $300-600? its like paying $30 for a fast food meal.

 

[Sanifan]

Not to get too off topic...

...but what do you think about the airflow path of the Dyson canisters vs. that of the uprights? I haven't seen these compared.

There's a lot of complaints about the convoluted path on the uprights, with all the bends, hoses, tubes, gaskets, etc. Aren't there something like 7 seal points in the airpath? Does seem problematic. But the canisters have only two, right? One where the hose enters the cylinder, and one exiting the cylinder. Everything else is internal in the motor base. Doesn't that give the canister a leg up in reliability?

And back on topic, I always thought you weren't supposed to rinse out the shroud because the fine dust would cake up and harden like cement if you didn't fully flush it out. Is that a possibility? Or just imagination?

 

[tolivac]

I rinsed out the cyclone assembly of a Dyson DC07 I got from a former Kirby dealer-smelled like DOG!After cleaning the cyclone assembly,washing the dirt cup,replacing the filter(NOT washing it)and clipping away the doghair wrapped around the roller brush-the Dyson vac was much better.No more DOG in the vacuum!The rollerbrush in mine was so wrapped in dog hair-wonder if it could BUFF hard floors?

 

[whirlcool]

Whenever I go to out Miele vac dealer (he also carries other brands such as Riccar, Bosch & Panasonic) there is always a bunch of Dyson machines awaiting repair. The repair guy said that the owners never change the filters or clean the machines and that's all they need to get back on the road again in most cases.