Replacement hose for Electrolux 1205

[scoots]

Hi,

I have an early (ca 1969) Electrolux vacuum in very new condition, including a mint hose -- In fact, the hose is so "new" I'm reluctant to use it.

Are there any contemporary hoses that would fit this unit so I can retire the original?

Thanks

Bill

 

[danemodsandy]

Bill:

Electrified hoses for the 1205 are readily available on eBay, in both genuine Aerus hoses and quality aftermarket versions. Just search on 'electrolux hose.' Auction descriptions tell you which hoses are electrified (which you need to run your PN), and what models they fit.

There is a difference between genuine Aerus hoses and aftermarket ones - the swivel feature. Genuine Aerus hoses have the swivel grip, of course. Some aftermarket ones have it, some don't. Even those aftermarket hoses that have the swivel grip are not as easy to repair as a genuine Aerus hose, because there isn't the supply of used grips on eBay for aftermarket hoses that there is for genuine hoses.

Genuine Aerus hoses are gray, which looks very nice with a 1205's turquoise paint. Aftermarket hoses may be gray or another color. Figure $100 or so for an Aerus hose, as little as half that for an aftermarket hose.

Hope this helps.

 

[Gr8DaneDad]

Genuine Aerus hoses may be gray, light blue, white or now, black. You can tell a genuine hose as it will have a knob on the bottom to adjust suction and no switch for the PN. Aftermarket hoses will have a slide for suction adjustment and most have a switch for the PN

 

[danemodsandy]

Yikes!

Didn't know about the various colors available in genuine Aerus now. I will be sure to ascertain the color of anything I order in the future. A black hose would look absolutely awful with most vintage models.

 

[ronni]

Another thing to consider is that several on Vacuumland have shared their success stories in repairing their tanks' original leaky hoses, such as your teal hose with the white tracers (which also was original to the teal Model Ls), with liquid latex such as Plasti Dip or its industrial equivalent Rubber Dip. That procedure, while a bit time-intensive, is simple to do. I personally would not invest in a new hose for that reason unless you wanted to get a hose with an on/off switch.

You can check your hose's air-tightness by misting it with diluted dishsoap from a spray bottle, attaching it to the blower end of your tank, turning on the machine, and covering the open end with the palm of your hand. Bubbles will expose any leakages.

If you want to learn more about how to restore your hose's original effectiveness with liquid latex search Vaccumland's archives with the keywords "Plasti Dip" or "Woven Hose Restoration".

 

[Gr8DaneDad]

The genuine Aerus hoses are made to match the current coloration of the Classic model. The current 90th anniversary model is black and black hoses are now available. There are still white hoses from the previous model available new, but gray is getting rare new from Aerus.

 

[tig21er]

Tom,

Scoots would need the Super J hose from Aerus not the Classic hose as the ends are different that go in the cleaner. He said it was a 1205.

 

[Gr8DaneDad]

my apologies... need to slow down when I am tired before posting...

 

[djub85]

Correct about the hoses--


 


If you look on Ebay, you need to look for "metal body" hoses. The "plastic body" machines have a different end that attaches to the machine, which is characterized by having a partially painted finish (whereas the metal body hoses have entirely metal connection ends).


 


I have no idea what color hoses are available new from Aerus for the metal body machines, but I feel certain they have something that will match ok.


 


I caution against buying an aftermarket hose. My parents bought one for their Diamond Jubilee (which I now own), and after a few years, the release mechanism stopped working, and the hose would become stuck. This is why they eventually gave it to me. Eventually I got it unstuck, but it was tough.


 


--And one last note about hoses: not all plastic-body hoses are equal. The 2100/Classic hoses still have the traditional pistol grip end for steel wands (even on the new 90th Edition black Classic). The Epic/Legacy hoses have the gas pump grip for plastic wands.

 

[Gr8DaneDad]

There are great, good and frankly, awful aftermarket hoses. The best ones look just like genuine ones except they have the switch and sliding suction control... they even use the same hose stock.

 

[ronni]

Don't the genuine hoses also have an embossed Aerus emblem or lettering on them like the old Electrolux ones?

Come to think of it, I wonder if the current attachments are stamped with the Aerus logo?

 

[Gr8DaneDad]

Nope, Aerus attachments and hoses no longer are embossed with anything. Rather a shame.

 

[floor-a-matic]

There is also a pigtail hose for the model G (has pigtail cord on machine end)

 

[scoots]

Thanks for the reply on this...

... it will help me sort through the minefield of parts on eBay.

 

[kirbylux77]

Floor a Matic

Ok, now that annoys me to no end!! Aerus sees fit to make a replacement hose for the Automatic G, Model L & all American models that require the pigtail on the end. Yet, for some reason, they won't make a pigtail hose for the Canadian 80 series Electrolux canisters?!?! Wow, very unfair of Aerus to favor the American models like that.

Bill, if I was you, I would spend the extra money & go to your Aerus dealer & buy the genuine hose for your 1205. The handles on the aftermarket hoses, whether swivel or not, have too many quality issues....such as the suction vent on the front becoming loose over time, the screw holes in the plastic becoming stripped out, & the PN receptacle in the handle failing electrically. It's not uncommon for the aftermarket hose handles to require much more frequent replacement than genuine Aerus hose handles. In this case, that little old saying "You get what you pay for" certainly holds true....there's a reason the Aerus hose costs more, & it ain't because it looks pretty!

Rob

 

[ronni]

Rob,

Why don't you get a bunch of individuals--perhaps from this forum--to contact Aerus requesting the hose you mentioned? It may well be that they are not aware of the need for the item.

 

[Gr8DaneDad]

The pigtail hoses are available to Aerus franchisees in Canada, all they have to do is order them. And frankly I disagree about the durability of aftermarket hoses, it all depends on source as to the quality. I have several aftermarket hoses that have lasted longer than genuine Electrolux/Aerus ones, and at 1/2  the price. Quality does vary tremendously and you do get what you pay for to an extent... however the wholesale cost of the best aftermarket hoses and Aerus genuine hoses are very close, however retail of the genuine part is twice (or more) the price of the best aftermarket hoses.


Feel free to pay Aerus $150 for a hose, I'll buy mine for $35.

 

[ronni]

Tom,

Any recommendations of sources that carry the good quality aftermarket hoses would be appreciated. I like the idea of supporting Aerus, because I want them to succeed; however, I have a stronger desire to be a wise shopper.

Perhaps if Aerus gets wind that they are losing revenue due to competitors selling similar products of comparable quality at lower prices it will lower its prices. I'm sure some of their rationale follows the old adage "You get what you pay for", so they want to keep the price higher to match the quality of their product. At the same time it seems counterintuitive to disregard competition--knowing that customers can use the internet to shop for the best price and research information regarding quality of similar (or identical) products like we're doing here.


Along with that, something bugs me about the fact that Aerus doesn't have its name stamped on its hoses or hose and wand attachments. Does this mean that they also make some of the less-costly and equivalent-quality generic products? That brings to mind some generic or store brand product labels that urge shoppers to compare ingredients on the major brands' product labels with theirs--presumably because the less-costly product is manufactured by a division of the major brand or is simply the same product.

 

[kirbylux77]

Tom

Here in Canada, the situation is different on pricing. Walk into any ordinary mom & pop vac shop, & they will sell you an aftermarket AP series hose for the plastic bodied canisters, usually for about $90 to $100 dollars CDN. Now, I can walk into my Aerus dealer in North York, Ontario (Part of Toronto) & pay $110 CDN for a genuine Aerus AP series hose, with a better quality handle that lasts MUCH longer than an aftermarket hose. For my Electrolux Grand Marquise, it's the same deal with the hoses for the metal canisters....about $90 CDN for an aftermarket hose, vs $135 CDN for the genuine Aerus hose. If the aftermarket hose was 1/2 the price, then I would say you have a valid point, but it's not. Also, if you look at online Canadian retailers, the pricing is very similar for what you pay in vac shops. And buying from an American online shop isn't the answer, either....once you pay the shipping cost, plus paying customs duties to Canada Customs once it crosses the border, you're usually paying at least what it would have cost to acquire that same hose, or any other parts, here in Canada. In addition, I have a couple of the aftermarket AP series hoses Perfect Products makes, they have the swivel, switch & slide suction vent....when I bought my genuine AP series hose & adapted it for my Lux 86, I decided to compare to my Perfect AP hose on my Canadian Lux AP280 before I changed the machine end for the 86. I was NOT impressed at all with the Perfect hose after that! Not only was the quality worse on the Perfect hose, you could also feel a difference in suction power was better using the Aerus hose, so there was a leak somewhere in the Perfect hoses. And this happened with BOTH the Perfect hoses, not just one of them, so it's obviously due to poor design & manufacturing quality. I will never touch an aftermarket Lux hose ever again, & if it wasn't for the fact I had bought the Perfect hoses 4 months prior to obtaining the Aerus hose & had put plenty of use on teh Perfect hoses, I would have took them back to my local shop & demanded a refund.

As for the availability of the pigtail hoses....Yes, you could order a American pigtail hose for the Model L & Automatic G. However, it will not fit the Canadian 86, 88, or 89 canisters. The machine end is different on them....instead of there being 2 metal tabs you push in & pull the hose out, on the 80 Series hose machine end there is ball bearings on the very end of the machine end, & you pull back a "sleeve" & pull out the hose. Totally different design, will not work. Like I have said before, the ONLY way to get an 80 Series hose is to save your old hose end & have it transplanted onto an AP series hose.

Fred....As for contacting Aerus & letting them know of the need for a replacement 80 Series hose, trust me, Aerus is fully aware of the situation & is refusing to supply ANY parts for the 80 Series canisters....hoses included. The only part you can get for the 80 Series canisters is the square motor afterfilter, & that is because it just so happens to be identical to the square afterfilter the LX & LXI use, otherwise they probably wouldn't make it available. They don't want you to keep repairing your old canister, they want you to buy a new Classic, Legacy or Guardian Platinum. Which I think is a shame, since the old ones are made much better than the new Aerus machines. If there ever comes a day that one of my old canisters has to be replaced entirely, I would replace it with a new Perfect C101 or C103 canister before I would give Aerus my business & buy one of their canisters. I will NEVER buy any new vacuum with the Aerus name on it.

Rob