rainbow e series or filter queen

[joshdonnell]

DO NOT filter all particles
DO NOT release clean air as water fails to capture non-water-soluble dust particles
Need to change water after every usage to prevent it from becoming a breeding ground.

 

[singingrainbow]

well

Bags also breed dirt if not changed every time.
The seperator and exhast filter catch non water souble dust.
All fitlers must release some dust because if they caught all the dust they would plug up and lose all airflow.
Water has no holes, no cloging, no dust.
Not trying to start any wars!
Just stating my opinion.
Scott

 

[defrankond]

rainbow vs filter queen

i do not think anyone is trying to say one works better than the other. the filter queen much like any vacuum will have some dust leak through the cellulose cone. so filter queen is really not any better than any other vac. i have owned two and even tho the tank is a power house filter queen power heads are lacking. not sure about the new powerhead for the fq but the old ones are not that effective at deep cleaning. now the rainbow is not a POWERFUL cleaner but it does do a respectable job. if you use a proper power head over the pn1 and pn2 you actually get a really good cleaning. I use a sebo commercial power head with mine and it dosnt seem to leave much behind. ive done several tests with the original pn up against several others and the sebo is the only top ranked powerhead with the rainbow. as far as dust particals escaping yes there is some dust that escapes the water bath, but much like any vacuum filters have been added to reduce the amount. dust going back into the air. both are respectable brands and both deserve credit for making fine machines.

 

[tolivac]

On the Rainbow E series machines the HEPA filter was added to trap material the water filter could not trap.

 

[williamr1248]

Rainbow E series or Filter Queen

These have been interesting threads. I would say that they are both very good vacuums.
I can only comment on my machines that I have used.

Filter Queen:

Good points
(1) very well made
(2) quiet
(3) powerful suction
Weaker points
(1) heavy and bulky
(2) catches on the door sills and carpet edges
(3) short power cord
(4) flying dust and mess from when time to empty
(5) cannot be used for wet pick-up
(6) cost of filter cones,charcoal filter and secondary filters

Rainbow:

(1) constant air flow
(2) no bags to buy
(3) smaller diameter stainless wands are lighter
(4) use for wet pick-up
(5) new design of Aqua-mate
(5) newer type long lasting motor
(6) never any smell or odor
(7) certified as air cleaner

weaker points
(1) louder machine than Filter Queen
(2) catches on door sills and rug edges like the Filter Queen

They are both very good machines. I would say more of personal
choice. I would say again that I NEVER pick up ash,cement dust with ANY of my machines. My Rainbow is motor is still perfectly clean after 18 years and so is my Filter Queen so I would say they both seem to work well for me.
I have it down to about 30 seconds to rinse my Rainbow basin so that has not been a problem for me.
I do not think these would be a good choice if the user just wants to run a vacuum though the middle of the room. They better buy an upright.
With the Filte Queen you will be buying filter cones,charcoal filter and secondary motor filters and a separate room air cleaning machines. All things to consider in total cost of
of ownership.
Aren't we glad we still have both of these unique machines!

 

[kirbysthebest]

I don't really have a dog in this fight, but the statement that the water has to be changed frequently to prevent a breeding ground is ever so slightly exagerated.

One should always empty and dry the basin after use to prevent gunk from breeding, but during operation with the air passing over and through along with the turbulance there is little chance you are going to breed a colony of super bugs in a 15 minute cleaning. The main reason they recommend changing the water frequently is that it becomes thick from the dirt and lint and must be replaced to maintain effieciency.

Now about bagged machines.
Most bags are coated with a antimicrobial material that prevents them from becoming a breeding ground. Most bacteria require some moisture in order to activate and survive, most vacuum bags with the air flowing through and around discourage discourage growth.

In other words, I don't think one is any the worse than the other.

 

[williamr1248]

Rainbow series vs Filter Queen

Harley,
That sounds right to me too. I would always change my water after I finish each floor with the Rainbow. I takes just seconds to rinse the basin out. I keep it in the bathroom and it dries in no time.
They have come a long way with the newer bags too. I used to take my Kirby bag off and GENTLEY hand wash it about every 6 months when it started to start smelling. I also never left a Kirby paper bag in the machine for a long time. Who wants to store dirt in the closet anyway.

 

[joshdonnell]

rainbow

i call the rainbow the moldy vacuum it grows mold on the filter

 

[joshdonnell]

rainbow

let the bag set in closet itsnt that bad . the rainbow doesn't remove all the dust no vacuum can . not trying to fight . the rainbow is a inconvince for me since i live in apt. i have hear so many bad things about rainbow. like mold growing the top of the rainbow . if rainbow is suppose to remove all the dust then why put a filter on the back.

 

[singingrainbow]

The water alone cant catch dust that resists water like talc so they put the filter on it to catch those materials if acidentally picked up and while I have never seen or heard of a moldy rainbow the only way I can consive that hapening is if the person leaves the rainbow in the closet with the water in it or stores it in a damp area but I have seen other vacs with mold in them so I think any vac can become moldy.

 

[williamr1248]

Rainbow E Series or Filter Queen

Jason, I can see why a Rainbow might not be a good choice for you if you live in an apartment. You might not enjoy a Filter Queen either. It would take space to store and might be hard to empty inside a apartment without having dust flying everywhere when it's time to empty.
I don't know anything about the filters on the Rainbow as mine does not have one but the exhaust area is clean as new after 18 years.
Never really met anyone that said bad things about either a Filter Queen or a Rainbow. I have known owners who did fail to empty them them as they should per the instructions but they might not take care of a $40.00 Walmart vac either.
As we know a lot of brands of vacuums have multiple filters like the Filter Queens main filter cone plus the charcoal filter and then the secondary motor filter.
I have family member who has owned (and abused) her Rainbow for years and years and her after filter is still clean. I guess it all depends on how you use any machine.
In an apartment maybe a smaller vacuum with the self closing bag might be a better choice.

 

[defrankond]

rainbow vac

any vacuum can have a moldy or off smell to it if stored in or used in a high humidity area. i have never heard of a moldy rainbow, but not saying it dosnt happen. if you store the basin on the machine, do not empty after each use, or use to much water in the basin you will end up throwing water into the secondary filter on the back. in any case that would cause a moist situation for mold to form. but out of my personal experience ive never had that problem. i guess i do not have a problem with my rainbow. it smells lovely when i turn it on, but then again i always store the basin off the machine, i always remove and clean the filter (mines washable) and ive never had a mold problem.