scoover
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I have had this in a tin along with all the black and brown ones for 25 years. Just worked out what it is for by looking through old threads on here....[this post was last edited: 8/24/2018-14:25]
Pre 1961 Hoover 1334 Junior pink plug!
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rolls_rapide
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My gran used this plug on her Hoover Junior, but she had modern sockets.
She used the Russell Hobbs K2 kettle flex lead (round fitting, with round-pin socket on the kettle end; plugged into the modern 13amp wall socket). A stout elastic band held the Hoover plug and kettle lead together. And it worked. Not exactly recommended by modern standards though.
Photo courtesy of Picclick.
She used the Russell Hobbs K2 kettle flex lead (round fitting, with round-pin socket on the kettle end; plugged into the modern 13amp wall socket). A stout elastic band held the Hoover plug and kettle lead together. And it worked. Not exactly recommended by modern standards though.
Photo courtesy of Picclick.
madman
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Neat. What's the consensus across the pond on restoring vintage electrical appliances? Just put a modern plug on it, or keep it original and use an adapter?
scoover
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Dodgy connections and which plug to use...
Rolls rapide: A good if slightly terrifying adaptation. As a young teenager I started buying old electrical goods from my local auction at the end of the '70s. Bill the auctioneer had a novel method of testing things without fitted plugs: wrapping the wires round the appropriate pin of a plug on another appliance, jamming the whole thing in a socket and throw the switch...
MadMan: In theory the two pin Hoover plug can work here if you have a 2 pin to bayonet adaptor (see pic). Its interesting to see how many people on this site use their vacs daily going by people's posts.
I have to say here and now I don't enjoy vacuuming and I hate emptying unlined dustbags. Although I used a '33 750 for almost 20 years as my everyday. I use a Numatic Henry now.
Don't get me wrong I want my Pre-wars to work and have gone through every motor to that end. They just don't get workhorsed anymore. I am in the process of restoring all the handles on my coffee cans so most of the early ones will end up with Hoover 2 pins but I have also been sourcing 50's-60's 3 pin in bakelite for those I am most likely to switch on. Seems a bit lazy to stick some white plastic cheapo modern on.
With that contraption in the middle of the picture I can run 2 coffee cans from a table lamp if I really want to upset my fuse board!
Rolls rapide: A good if slightly terrifying adaptation. As a young teenager I started buying old electrical goods from my local auction at the end of the '70s. Bill the auctioneer had a novel method of testing things without fitted plugs: wrapping the wires round the appropriate pin of a plug on another appliance, jamming the whole thing in a socket and throw the switch...
MadMan: In theory the two pin Hoover plug can work here if you have a 2 pin to bayonet adaptor (see pic). Its interesting to see how many people on this site use their vacs daily going by people's posts.
I have to say here and now I don't enjoy vacuuming and I hate emptying unlined dustbags. Although I used a '33 750 for almost 20 years as my everyday. I use a Numatic Henry now.
Don't get me wrong I want my Pre-wars to work and have gone through every motor to that end. They just don't get workhorsed anymore. I am in the process of restoring all the handles on my coffee cans so most of the early ones will end up with Hoover 2 pins but I have also been sourcing 50's-60's 3 pin in bakelite for those I am most likely to switch on. Seems a bit lazy to stick some white plastic cheapo modern on.
With that contraption in the middle of the picture I can run 2 coffee cans from a table lamp if I really want to upset my fuse board!
madman
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Cool.
I guess I'm still a little confused though. Why go through the trouble of taking out a light bulb for using a 2 pin-to-bayonet adapter... when you could just use one of these things?
http://https//www.ebay.co.uk/itm/332634221782
I guess I'm still a little confused though. Why go through the trouble of taking out a light bulb for using a 2 pin-to-bayonet adapter... when you could just use one of these things?
http://https//www.ebay.co.uk/itm/332634221782
scoover
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Electricity in the home
I don't think people would initially have had sockets.
People would originally have had electricity put in to enjoy the "wonder of electric light". Its a chicken and egg thing; you cant sell an appliance to someone without electricity but how do people know they need sockets until they have (or can afford) the appliances. It would take time for electrical installations to be upgraded.
The Hoover 2 pin is designed for sockets but certainly in Britain pre WWII very few ordinary people could either afford Hoovers or would have had anything other than a rudimentary lighting circuit in their homes.
A long time ago I worked for an electrician. We mostly did domestic re-wires; Even in the '90s we were stripping out places that had been wired in the 1930's. You could see where people had started off with lighting circuits and then stuff had been added on and added on. I still have a heap of metal clad switches and wooden fuse boards I rescued from those days.
I am not talking about a hundred years ago either. My grandfather was in good employment but my grandparents had no electricity,even for lighting in their flat until 1955. Heating and cooking was coal powered and lit by town (coal)gas I can remember asking what those funny things (gas lighting mantles) sticking out the walls of their flat were in the middle 1960's.
So I guess people plugged their Hoovers into their light sockets because that was all they had.
I don't think people would initially have had sockets.
People would originally have had electricity put in to enjoy the "wonder of electric light". Its a chicken and egg thing; you cant sell an appliance to someone without electricity but how do people know they need sockets until they have (or can afford) the appliances. It would take time for electrical installations to be upgraded.
The Hoover 2 pin is designed for sockets but certainly in Britain pre WWII very few ordinary people could either afford Hoovers or would have had anything other than a rudimentary lighting circuit in their homes.
A long time ago I worked for an electrician. We mostly did domestic re-wires; Even in the '90s we were stripping out places that had been wired in the 1930's. You could see where people had started off with lighting circuits and then stuff had been added on and added on. I still have a heap of metal clad switches and wooden fuse boards I rescued from those days.
I am not talking about a hundred years ago either. My grandfather was in good employment but my grandparents had no electricity,even for lighting in their flat until 1955. Heating and cooking was coal powered and lit by town (coal)gas I can remember asking what those funny things (gas lighting mantles) sticking out the walls of their flat were in the middle 1960's.
So I guess people plugged their Hoovers into their light sockets because that was all they had.
madman
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Ah ok, you're talking pre-war.
Yeah of course in the states we had just light sockets at first, but maybe we were a little quicker to adopt wall outlets. Here in Chicago, anyway, all the houses built in the '20s have fairly normal electrical setups, by today's standards. Typically at least one wall outlet in each room, lights in every room, etc. In fact, I would say a house from the '20s in Chicago, anyway, would still be up to code, with the exception that outlets are now required on just about every wall, to discourage use of extension cords.
Yeah of course in the states we had just light sockets at first, but maybe we were a little quicker to adopt wall outlets. Here in Chicago, anyway, all the houses built in the '20s have fairly normal electrical setups, by today's standards. Typically at least one wall outlet in each room, lights in every room, etc. In fact, I would say a house from the '20s in Chicago, anyway, would still be up to code, with the exception that outlets are now required on just about every wall, to discourage use of extension cords.
scoover
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Yeah,
Immediate post WWII: Small, relatively poor population with a poorly developed consumer goods manufacturing sector versus huge, more affluent population already accustomed to a cornucopia of consumer durables.
For instance, Refrigerators did not become commonplace in the UK until the late 1950's certainly for working people and I think we were 20 or 30 years behind you guys in terms of regarding cars as disposable.
Immediate post WWII: Small, relatively poor population with a poorly developed consumer goods manufacturing sector versus huge, more affluent population already accustomed to a cornucopia of consumer durables.
For instance, Refrigerators did not become commonplace in the UK until the late 1950's certainly for working people and I think we were 20 or 30 years behind you guys in terms of regarding cars as disposable.
scoover
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British Bakelite Hoover light socket plug
Found this via ebay. Dedicated aftermarket Hoover plug for bayonet light fitting. Has British registered number which dates from 1930 (presumably as sales of the 725 took off). I notice the words Hoover are in inverted comma's, presumably because it was not a licensed product.
Found this via ebay. Dedicated aftermarket Hoover plug for bayonet light fitting. Has British registered number which dates from 1930 (presumably as sales of the 725 took off). I notice the words Hoover are in inverted comma's, presumably because it was not a licensed product.
collector2
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I try to have plugs appropriate to the era on any of my English or European machines. Adapters are easily found if you want to use them but I have set up an outlet board with a number of different outlets styles on it that can just be plugged into a normal 240V outlet.
scoover
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Good set-up!
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