tommymilan
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Look at this, have you seen anyting more stupid?
i HAVE NO WORDS.
Tommy
i HAVE NO WORDS.
Tommy
poor old constellation destroyed by stupid guys
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crevicetool
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What the h---
Guess it's better than some other gang members head, -still!
Guess it's better than some other gang members head, -still!
scooterbug25
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Shows peoples ignorance..Society today is not what it was 20 years ago. It makes me scared to think where it will be in another 20.
IDIOTS!
rocketwarrior
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Not a comment on society
I would have used a bigger hammer (a long handled maul) and edited it down to about a minute.
I do not think this video is a comment or illustration of where society was or where it is going. As an adolescent (over 40 years ago) I would put firecrackers in old model airplanes and cars to watch them blow up. And I was an A student in no trouble with the law. Now, that is not proof that I wasn't an undiagnosed sociopath. After all, in 1967 my first 7 choices for overseas assignment were Vietnam and I was a tastefully decorated combat vet at age 19.
But breaking stuff is what kids do. And breaking something found in a dumpster seems pretty harmless and not a harbinger that your Cadillac is next.
The real question is whether the video has artistic merit. The film noir was hopeful but I found it too long and, frankly, boring. But destroying stuff is pretty "standard fare" for the movie industry so, arguably, it is venerated adults these kids are emulating. I think the video's biggest flaw is that it was boring.
And, with all due respect to the purpose of our club, I refuse to lay any guilt on them for destroying an old vacuum cleaner. (This last comment might be that of a sociopath taking things personally - smile).
Where am I wrong, guys?
I would have used a bigger hammer (a long handled maul) and edited it down to about a minute.
I do not think this video is a comment or illustration of where society was or where it is going. As an adolescent (over 40 years ago) I would put firecrackers in old model airplanes and cars to watch them blow up. And I was an A student in no trouble with the law. Now, that is not proof that I wasn't an undiagnosed sociopath. After all, in 1967 my first 7 choices for overseas assignment were Vietnam and I was a tastefully decorated combat vet at age 19.
But breaking stuff is what kids do. And breaking something found in a dumpster seems pretty harmless and not a harbinger that your Cadillac is next.
The real question is whether the video has artistic merit. The film noir was hopeful but I found it too long and, frankly, boring. But destroying stuff is pretty "standard fare" for the movie industry so, arguably, it is venerated adults these kids are emulating. I think the video's biggest flaw is that it was boring.
And, with all due respect to the purpose of our club, I refuse to lay any guilt on them for destroying an old vacuum cleaner. (This last comment might be that of a sociopath taking things personally - smile).
Where am I wrong, guys?
scooterbug25
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Society...
This Comment itself Shows that society itself accepts such ignorant violence or actions for no such purpose. People have become immune to these things because as you said, They are emulating what they see in adults. Hollywood for one is one of the biggest slime pits ever! Where does it say in the video this was found in the trash? I would agree, Children do break things and get into mischief. However it just don't seem to me that is the case with those older teenagers. As far as we know, It could have belonged to there mother who wanted them to help clean house, and that was there reaction..lol
This Comment itself Shows that society itself accepts such ignorant violence or actions for no such purpose. People have become immune to these things because as you said, They are emulating what they see in adults. Hollywood for one is one of the biggest slime pits ever! Where does it say in the video this was found in the trash? I would agree, Children do break things and get into mischief. However it just don't seem to me that is the case with those older teenagers. As far as we know, It could have belonged to there mother who wanted them to help clean house, and that was there reaction..lol
Yes,I suppose at one time everyone one of us destroyed something at one time or another-but just make sure it doesn't go to animals or--other people.Yes,I will confess I shot at washers and fridges dumpted at the free shooting range that used to be out here-"The Pit"I also took a HORRIBLE NEC VCR there as the "condemned" one day-Felt better after "disposing" of it.At this place an old lounge chair soaking in the pond made a good target-every shooter that went there took a shot or two at it-Was kinda fun seeing the stuffing fly out from a direct hit.Now "The Pit" is a housing district-was a sand mine-the owner didn't mind and even liked people to go there and shoot.But that nice Hoover Constellation in that film clip-would have been nice to have it.The ones out this way are STILL IN USE-folks don't give them up-they take them to the Vacuum Cleaner Hospital for repairs.
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"The Pit"
Rex,
You know how a kids grows up on a farm: House, barn,field of corn. Well, in my case it was once a farm, but in my youth it was a house, a body shop and a field of salvage cars and parts. ..and behind the body shop we had a small pit. Even very young, it was my job to take the household refuse there and burn it. When it was "that time of the month" for my mother, she insisted that I stand guard until "everything" was burned to ashes. Anyway, it was fun to imagine a burning cardboard box as a building on fire, etc. And in the early winter darkness, it was great.
Rex,
You know how a kids grows up on a farm: House, barn,field of corn. Well, in my case it was once a farm, but in my youth it was a house, a body shop and a field of salvage cars and parts. ..and behind the body shop we had a small pit. Even very young, it was my job to take the household refuse there and burn it. When it was "that time of the month" for my mother, she insisted that I stand guard until "everything" was burned to ashes. Anyway, it was fun to imagine a burning cardboard box as a building on fire, etc. And in the early winter darkness, it was great.
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I agree
I agree with Rocketwarrior. As a kid I destroyed alot of things that were junk at the time and maybe could have been saved. But if we saved everything, what would be worth collecting? I wish I had my first car back I sent of to the crusher, the Hoover Portable that I grew up with, Tonka trucks, etc, etc.
I now have an exact copy of that portable. Still working on getting the car.
Even recently, I scrapped a bunch of vacuums after stripping them of parts. Among them were Lux 1205's and Lux 30's. These were dented, rusted things that are better off becoming a future Buick. I have also scrapped some pathetic Constellations too. You can't save everything. I flattened the carcasses as best I could to save space on the truck. At least the parts of these scrapped machines will keep the better ones going. Although now maybe I should contact Rocketwarrior BEFORE crushing these old relics.
Joe
I agree with Rocketwarrior. As a kid I destroyed alot of things that were junk at the time and maybe could have been saved. But if we saved everything, what would be worth collecting? I wish I had my first car back I sent of to the crusher, the Hoover Portable that I grew up with, Tonka trucks, etc, etc.
I now have an exact copy of that portable. Still working on getting the car.
Even recently, I scrapped a bunch of vacuums after stripping them of parts. Among them were Lux 1205's and Lux 30's. These were dented, rusted things that are better off becoming a future Buick. I have also scrapped some pathetic Constellations too. You can't save everything. I flattened the carcasses as best I could to save space on the truck. At least the parts of these scrapped machines will keep the better ones going. Although now maybe I should contact Rocketwarrior BEFORE crushing these old relics.
Joe
crevicetool
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Ok, as has been said--
we all did it, destroyed something for fun-or trashed something that has out-served it's usefullness. However, I did not film it, and then post it on some website or broadcast it. That's the problem I have with it!
we all did it, destroyed something for fun-or trashed something that has out-served it's usefullness. However, I did not film it, and then post it on some website or broadcast it. That's the problem I have with it!
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Rick, you're 50 years old!
I mean only 50 years old - and you are acting like an old man. You admit you did it too, but you claim a loftier plateau by saying you didn't film it. Give me a break. You and I did't have You Tube, digital video cameras and the internet when we were doing our trashing. These kids are living in a different technological time. But they have the same testosterone, the same energy, the same confusing need to express themselves. And their culture does not have the same reverance that you, and bless his very good heart, John, have for an ancient Constellation. Weeping over the destruction of an old vacuum cleaner is kind of a specialized taste - don't you think?
I mean only 50 years old - and you are acting like an old man. You admit you did it too, but you claim a loftier plateau by saying you didn't film it. Give me a break. You and I did't have You Tube, digital video cameras and the internet when we were doing our trashing. These kids are living in a different technological time. But they have the same testosterone, the same energy, the same confusing need to express themselves. And their culture does not have the same reverance that you, and bless his very good heart, John, have for an ancient Constellation. Weeping over the destruction of an old vacuum cleaner is kind of a specialized taste - don't you think?
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Happy Birthday, Rick.
BTW, Happy Birthday, Rick.
BTW, Happy Birthday, Rick.
crevicetool
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You know what?
I'm too new to the club, have not met but one member, so i'm going to stop responding to this thread before I say something I regret. But---to me, that vacuum when it was designed, was someone's ART, a CRAFT. I know it's just a vacuum cleaner. And to this club those machines are very special. I also think that steam locomotives are ART. It's sad to me to see a photo of a Lima Shay sidewinder that could have been restored go under the cutting torch. My destruction days ended when I was about nine or ten, How old were these guys? And as for testoserone? I wasn't ready for that untill I was 16 or 17. And then I was ready to use that for other uses instead of blowing up vacuum cleaners. Yes I'm fifty years old, but 8mm film was available when I was a teenager, - even owned a camera-the most I did with it though was to film the restoration of my '41 special deluxe Chevy. The purpose of the video (in my opinion of course), was to create shock value, not an artistic rendering. 'nuff said.
I'm too new to the club, have not met but one member, so i'm going to stop responding to this thread before I say something I regret. But---to me, that vacuum when it was designed, was someone's ART, a CRAFT. I know it's just a vacuum cleaner. And to this club those machines are very special. I also think that steam locomotives are ART. It's sad to me to see a photo of a Lima Shay sidewinder that could have been restored go under the cutting torch. My destruction days ended when I was about nine or ten, How old were these guys? And as for testoserone? I wasn't ready for that untill I was 16 or 17. And then I was ready to use that for other uses instead of blowing up vacuum cleaners. Yes I'm fifty years old, but 8mm film was available when I was a teenager, - even owned a camera-the most I did with it though was to film the restoration of my '41 special deluxe Chevy. The purpose of the video (in my opinion of course), was to create shock value, not an artistic rendering. 'nuff said.
crevicetool
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Thanks Rocketwarrior
For the birthday greeting.
For the birthday greeting.
rocketwarrior
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Rick - Universal
I note you like the Universal. Here is one of mine. I have another one that I had hoped could be a Zeppelin, but it keeps disappointing me and I have in mind another design makeover.
http://www.goodfirm.com/marksart/mark8
I note you like the Universal. Here is one of mine. I have another one that I had hoped could be a Zeppelin, but it keeps disappointing me and I have in mind another design makeover.
http://www.goodfirm.com/marksart/mark8
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