williamr1248
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Santa brought this pink Dyson to the house tonight. It is the most bizzare color and it was love at first site...
Pink has Arrived!
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Now THAT'S pink! And a charity model too, I see. I'd love to hear what you think of it when you've had a chance to use it for a while.
I have 2 DC07s; my DC07 Origin is the one on the left of the picture below. It lacks the brush-control and debris channel, but I actually prefer it to versions with the clutch.
I have 2 DC07s; my DC07 Origin is the one on the left of the picture below. It lacks the brush-control and debris channel, but I actually prefer it to versions with the clutch.
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And here's my DC07 Low Reach. This one was actually used a LOT before it was given to me - I'm it's fourth owner - but it looks like new!
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Who couldn't love that color! And it is a beautiful shade. More to what you saw in the 50's So far I am amazed at how purposeful every detail of the machine,instruction book and even the box have been designed. They have changed the brush since the Dyson I bought several years ago and had to return. Very quiet and easy to push. I was surprised that it did work on my carpets which many of my vacs don't. It will be an interesting and totaly different vac. check out that nozzle!
Pink in all the right places. Even has pink hubcaps.
Who couldn't love that color! And it is a beautiful shade. More to what you saw in the 50's So far I am amazed at how purposeful every detail of the machine,instruction book and even the box have been designed. They have changed the brush since the Dyson I bought several years ago and had to return. Very quiet and easy to push. I was surprised that it did work on my carpets which many of my vacs don't. It will be an interesting and totaly different vac. check out that nozzle!
Pink in all the right places. Even has pink hubcaps.
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Channel error...
I was mistaken about the debris channel, then...I thought it had been introduced on later brush-control models, but apparently I'm wrong! Good, if anything, I don't like it. It acts as a bleed valve, so the suction through the nozzle plate is less intense...the suction through the channel isn't powerful or far-reaching enough anyway. I find it much more efficient just to put a Dyson canister floor nozzle on the end of the wand and do hard floors that way.
Which model did you buy several years ago with the different brush? How was it different? There have been a number of small improvements on the original design. The root cyclone moulding has been modified to help eliminate the problems with clogging which early models suffered badly from. Also, there's an extra strengthening plastic insert under the bin carrying handle. And I'm not sure about the US, but in the UK, the DC07's now got a 1400w motor, compared to the original 1200w unit.
I was mistaken about the debris channel, then...I thought it had been introduced on later brush-control models, but apparently I'm wrong! Good, if anything, I don't like it. It acts as a bleed valve, so the suction through the nozzle plate is less intense...the suction through the channel isn't powerful or far-reaching enough anyway. I find it much more efficient just to put a Dyson canister floor nozzle on the end of the wand and do hard floors that way.
Which model did you buy several years ago with the different brush? How was it different? There have been a number of small improvements on the original design. The root cyclone moulding has been modified to help eliminate the problems with clogging which early models suffered badly from. Also, there's an extra strengthening plastic insert under the bin carrying handle. And I'm not sure about the US, but in the UK, the DC07's now got a 1400w motor, compared to the original 1200w unit.
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Jack,
You really know your Dysons. I don't remember what the model number was on the first Dyson I bought. I do know it was the first vacuum I ever took back to the store. I remember it did not have a brush off/on control,it was much louder than this machine and had a brush that ruined my dining room rug. When the cansiter came out I got one and loved the design but it went back too for the same problem.
The brush roll on this machine is not as stiff and it grooms the carpet pile without any lines. Much much better. This machine also has the extra strengthening insert under the bin handle.
I agree with you about cleaning the bare floors. I already orderd the floor brush from Dyson.com.
Also I noted that the hose seems to work better and is more flexable after only a couple of uses. I cannot find anyplace where it tells you the wattage of the motor.
The color is what got me! We had some GE's in the 50's that had some very smart colors too. Thanks for sharing any info you have on the Dysons.
Rob
Jack,
You really know your Dysons. I don't remember what the model number was on the first Dyson I bought. I do know it was the first vacuum I ever took back to the store. I remember it did not have a brush off/on control,it was much louder than this machine and had a brush that ruined my dining room rug. When the cansiter came out I got one and loved the design but it went back too for the same problem.
The brush roll on this machine is not as stiff and it grooms the carpet pile without any lines. Much much better. This machine also has the extra strengthening insert under the bin handle.
I agree with you about cleaning the bare floors. I already orderd the floor brush from Dyson.com.
Also I noted that the hose seems to work better and is more flexable after only a couple of uses. I cannot find anyplace where it tells you the wattage of the motor.
The color is what got me! We had some GE's in the 50's that had some very smart colors too. Thanks for sharing any info you have on the Dysons.
Rob
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Brush Roll Design
Is the brush designed to help direct debris to the vacuum inlet tube? I guess I would describe it as kind of a "helix." Thanks!
Bill
Is the brush designed to help direct debris to the vacuum inlet tube? I guess I would describe it as kind of a "helix." Thanks!
Bill
williamr1248
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Pink has arrived!
Jack,
I used the new Dyson today. She just makes me happy to see that pink color. What a fun vac. Every vac has it's good and bad points. here is what I found today:
Plus side
(1) quiet,quiet,quiet-has nice low rumbling sound
(2) easy to push on my carpeting
(3) Grooms pile without those "track"marks like the Oreck
(4)easier to handle and move about than I expected
(5) long power cord
(6) unique dusting tools with Dyson logo on each
(7) easy to empty bin
Minus side
(1) where is the light?
(2) stop postion for use position
(3) dusting tool set takes getting used to the set up
What is the channel you are talking about in your post?
Jack,
I used the new Dyson today. She just makes me happy to see that pink color. What a fun vac. Every vac has it's good and bad points. here is what I found today:
Plus side
(1) quiet,quiet,quiet-has nice low rumbling sound
(2) easy to push on my carpeting
(3) Grooms pile without those "track"marks like the Oreck
(4)easier to handle and move about than I expected
(5) long power cord
(6) unique dusting tools with Dyson logo on each
(7) easy to empty bin
Minus side
(1) where is the light?
(2) stop postion for use position
(3) dusting tool set takes getting used to the set up
What is the channel you are talking about in your post?
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Large debris channel:
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good morning jack
i see it is 7 am there. lol
mike
i see it is 7 am there. lol
mike
Congrats on the new pink Dyson!
Jack-
The U.S. DC07's had the brush control but none that I've seen had the large debris channel....as far as I know the channel wasn't added until the DC14 came out.
My DC15 has it as well and I never did like it....I blocked the suction opening between the brush-roll compartment and the channel.... that really improved the suction at the rug nozzle plate.
Jack-
The U.S. DC07's had the brush control but none that I've seen had the large debris channel....as far as I know the channel wasn't added until the DC14 came out.
My DC15 has it as well and I never did like it....I blocked the suction opening between the brush-roll compartment and the channel.... that really improved the suction at the rug nozzle plate.
williamr1248
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Pink has arrived!
I don't think mine has the channel. If you look at the picture I posted of the bottom it has a channel at each end of the floor nozzle but I don't think that is what you are talking about.
I found several other nice features on the machine:
(1) the attached tools DO NOT fall off like they do on some machines with attached tools
(2) when you use the machine in the dusting tool configuration it follows you and the carry handle and tools are stored just at your waist height so you don't have to bend down to get them. I could set the machine in the middle of the room and use the long stretch hose to do above the floor cleaning.
(3) large wheels at the rear of machine make for easy transport of machine from room to room.
(4) much easier to dump the dirt from bin than my Hoover Bagless which is the poorest set up with two chambers and a filter to clean. I guess some of the other bagless vacs are difficult to clean too. I have just never owned or used any except the Hoover.
Jack do you know why the brush roll is designed to strange? I have never seen any other vacuum with one like it. I was wondering if the shape was what gives it the "beating" sound?
At the very least the "DYSON" is a "DYSON" It is a unique sweeper. I think if you are an UPRIGHT type of person you would like the Dyson but if you favor the tank type Electrolux type of machine-you will still prefer the Elecrolux. I just apprecitate someone still producing a product that is unique and different and what a great color!
I don't think mine has the channel. If you look at the picture I posted of the bottom it has a channel at each end of the floor nozzle but I don't think that is what you are talking about.
I found several other nice features on the machine:
(1) the attached tools DO NOT fall off like they do on some machines with attached tools
(2) when you use the machine in the dusting tool configuration it follows you and the carry handle and tools are stored just at your waist height so you don't have to bend down to get them. I could set the machine in the middle of the room and use the long stretch hose to do above the floor cleaning.
(3) large wheels at the rear of machine make for easy transport of machine from room to room.
(4) much easier to dump the dirt from bin than my Hoover Bagless which is the poorest set up with two chambers and a filter to clean. I guess some of the other bagless vacs are difficult to clean too. I have just never owned or used any except the Hoover.
Jack do you know why the brush roll is designed to strange? I have never seen any other vacuum with one like it. I was wondering if the shape was what gives it the "beating" sound?
At the very least the "DYSON" is a "DYSON" It is a unique sweeper. I think if you are an UPRIGHT type of person you would like the Dyson but if you favor the tank type Electrolux type of machine-you will still prefer the Elecrolux. I just apprecitate someone still producing a product that is unique and different and what a great color!
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Hi Rob,
I was mistaken about the debris channel on the DC07. I'd read on a different forum that some US DC07s DID include it, but I think the poster must have been confusing it with the DC14. I can't find any evidence to support the claim. Your DC07 does not have the channel, as you say. No great loss, as far as I'm concerned, the cleaner is better without it!
The lightweight brush-roll originated on the DC03, and I presume it's because the clutch-control system can't handle a heavy roller. The DC07 and DC14 origin models without the clutch still use the heavier round brush-roll, which I actually prefer. This must be the one you refer to when you mention the Dyson ruining a rug. I've never heard of this brush causing damage before; in fact, I thought one of the US-market's main complaints about the Dyson's brush-roll was that it was too soft. Dyson addressed this with the DC17, which has bristles which feel like little solid rods!
With regards to the lack of a headlight, I always think it's interesting that American consumers consider them an essential. We haven't had headlights on UK machines since the last of the great Hoovers! The only machines currently offering a headlight in the UK are the Vax Mach series, which are just rebadged US Hoover models!
I was mistaken about the debris channel on the DC07. I'd read on a different forum that some US DC07s DID include it, but I think the poster must have been confusing it with the DC14. I can't find any evidence to support the claim. Your DC07 does not have the channel, as you say. No great loss, as far as I'm concerned, the cleaner is better without it!
The lightweight brush-roll originated on the DC03, and I presume it's because the clutch-control system can't handle a heavy roller. The DC07 and DC14 origin models without the clutch still use the heavier round brush-roll, which I actually prefer. This must be the one you refer to when you mention the Dyson ruining a rug. I've never heard of this brush causing damage before; in fact, I thought one of the US-market's main complaints about the Dyson's brush-roll was that it was too soft. Dyson addressed this with the DC17, which has bristles which feel like little solid rods!
With regards to the lack of a headlight, I always think it's interesting that American consumers consider them an essential. We haven't had headlights on UK machines since the last of the great Hoovers! The only machines currently offering a headlight in the UK are the Vax Mach series, which are just rebadged US Hoover models!
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Jack,
Thanks for the reasponse. I was kidding about the lights! I can just see the Dyson with LED lighting across the front!
As far as the brush rollis conderned-again you are correct. I had forgotten that the 2 Dysons I returned had the round brush rolls. As a matter of fact I just removed that 9X12 breakfast room rug and it is sitting in the garage now. They also ruined a 3x5 area rug. These were both rugs that had been cleaned by every other type of machine. I am sure I told this before but I was warned by a carpet store to be careful because they were seeing nylon carpeting ruined becaue the newer aggressive brush rolls were causing the rugs to "fuzz".
This Dyson doesn't even sound like the first one I tried several years ago. I got an email from another former vac
club member who really knew the Dyson. He told me the Dc07 was one of their best machines. Do you know what the two holes are for located under the attachment bays on each side of the handle? Thanks for all your infomation.
Jack,
Thanks for the reasponse. I was kidding about the lights! I can just see the Dyson with LED lighting across the front!
As far as the brush rollis conderned-again you are correct. I had forgotten that the 2 Dysons I returned had the round brush rolls. As a matter of fact I just removed that 9X12 breakfast room rug and it is sitting in the garage now. They also ruined a 3x5 area rug. These were both rugs that had been cleaned by every other type of machine. I am sure I told this before but I was warned by a carpet store to be careful because they were seeing nylon carpeting ruined becaue the newer aggressive brush rolls were causing the rugs to "fuzz".
This Dyson doesn't even sound like the first one I tried several years ago. I got an email from another former vac
club member who really knew the Dyson. He told me the Dc07 was one of their best machines. Do you know what the two holes are for located under the attachment bays on each side of the handle? Thanks for all your infomation.
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Hi Rob - no, I can't remember what, if anything, those little holes are for. Both my DC07s are out in the car at the moment, or I'd check.
I don't claim to be an expert on Dyson - it's just I'm one of the few on the forum who bother to give them any attention at all! They seem to polarize people - either fanatical love, or fanatical loathing! I just like them. But I know far, far more about Hoover cleaners out of production for 70+ years than I do about Dysons currently on sale!
I'm sure Dyson's position in the marketplace owes a huge amount to its prominent promotion on Friends and Will & Grace - and have you noticed all the characters on Desperate Housewives now own them, whereas they didn't in the first series? They even wrote a Dyson into one of the episodes - where Lynette knocks over the ashes, then vacuums them up! Product placement is alive and well...
I don't claim to be an expert on Dyson - it's just I'm one of the few on the forum who bother to give them any attention at all! They seem to polarize people - either fanatical love, or fanatical loathing! I just like them. But I know far, far more about Hoover cleaners out of production for 70+ years than I do about Dysons currently on sale!
I'm sure Dyson's position in the marketplace owes a huge amount to its prominent promotion on Friends and Will & Grace - and have you noticed all the characters on Desperate Housewives now own them, whereas they didn't in the first series? They even wrote a Dyson into one of the episodes - where Lynette knocks over the ashes, then vacuums them up! Product placement is alive and well...
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Beautiful Model you have there Rob
I am wondering if the holes are a viewing window to see if there are any clogs. my fantom cyclone has one and it has come in handy.
good luck with your new dyson
Mike
I am wondering if the holes are a viewing window to see if there are any clogs. my fantom cyclone has one and it has come in handy.
good luck with your new dyson
Mike
williamr1248
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Pink has arrived!
Jack,
The mystery has been solved. I got an email from a former vac club member who knows the Dyson. He told me to look at the handle. These holes were opposite the holders for the attachments and were part of the attachment arrangement that holds the tool in it's postion.
I am RIGHT were you are with the Dyson. I neither hate or love it. I think it is a very interesting vacuum and so far it doesn't leak dust!
I think we vac collecters still think Hoover or Elecrolux but that time has long gone. When I ask any young person about a top of the line machine, they don't think Hoover,that was my parents generation. That's like in my generation the Zenith or Frigidare nameplate was considered top of the line-but no more.
I would love to see and use a Hoover 150. My interest in Hoover was more of the time frame of the Hoover 150,Hoover 28 and Hoover 63. Because of my age my interest stopped soon after they started making the Convertible cheaper and cheaper and cheaper. It was very sad.
Thanks for all your info on the Dyson. At least they put some money in the design.
Jack,
The mystery has been solved. I got an email from a former vac club member who knows the Dyson. He told me to look at the handle. These holes were opposite the holders for the attachments and were part of the attachment arrangement that holds the tool in it's postion.
I am RIGHT were you are with the Dyson. I neither hate or love it. I think it is a very interesting vacuum and so far it doesn't leak dust!
I think we vac collecters still think Hoover or Elecrolux but that time has long gone. When I ask any young person about a top of the line machine, they don't think Hoover,that was my parents generation. That's like in my generation the Zenith or Frigidare nameplate was considered top of the line-but no more.
I would love to see and use a Hoover 150. My interest in Hoover was more of the time frame of the Hoover 150,Hoover 28 and Hoover 63. Because of my age my interest stopped soon after they started making the Convertible cheaper and cheaper and cheaper. It was very sad.
Thanks for all your info on the Dyson. At least they put some money in the design.
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Dyson, Dyson, Dyson...
Jack, I love what you said...
I don't claim to be an expert on Dyson - it's just I'm one of the few on the forum who bother to give them any attention at all! They seem to polarize people - either fanatical love, or fanatical loathing! I just like them.
I'm in the same frame of mind as you. I just like them.. I don't really feel the need to own one right now; if someone were to give one to me, I'd be fine with it. But don't plan on running out to get one. Eventually I'll add one to the collection. As they have been a huge history-making turning point in the vacuum industry.
Working at the vacuum store one or so days a week, they're a Dyson warranty center. I've gotten some experience working on them. They're not nearly as complicated as I had originally thought, but on that same hand, I'm not terribly impressed.
Dirt does get past those cyclones, and there is a secondary filter that needs to be cleaned and/or changed. And those cyclones get FILTHY!
I've rinsed one cleaner's cyclones out with soap and water and was absolutely disgusted with what came out of it! I had to keep filling it with water, shaking, and dumping it out until the water came out clean. Then, of course, it dried real well. I was shocked... there was SO much dirt stuck up inside the cyclones - when I was through, there was a noticeable change in performance.
I was also surprised by how many clutch mechanisms we've had to replace. Both of the flat belts that go into the clutch are definitely not "lifetime" belts as they claim. They most definitely stretch out, just like any other belt. I'll give them credit that having the clutch is smart--it definitely prolongs the belt life for most of the idiots who are running the cleaner into furniture and sucking up area rugs...
My biggest beef with the DC-07 is the puny little brushroll. I really don't think it's aggressive enough to effectively clean a thick pile carpet.
I do however feel that if one absolutely has to have a bagless machine, they're the lesser of all evils, and the easiest to empty. I dont have any experience with the other models, but the only one that really intrugues me is the Slim, and the Dyson "Junior" that's currently out there.
~F
Jack, I love what you said...
I don't claim to be an expert on Dyson - it's just I'm one of the few on the forum who bother to give them any attention at all! They seem to polarize people - either fanatical love, or fanatical loathing! I just like them.
I'm in the same frame of mind as you. I just like them.. I don't really feel the need to own one right now; if someone were to give one to me, I'd be fine with it. But don't plan on running out to get one. Eventually I'll add one to the collection. As they have been a huge history-making turning point in the vacuum industry.
Working at the vacuum store one or so days a week, they're a Dyson warranty center. I've gotten some experience working on them. They're not nearly as complicated as I had originally thought, but on that same hand, I'm not terribly impressed.
Dirt does get past those cyclones, and there is a secondary filter that needs to be cleaned and/or changed. And those cyclones get FILTHY!
I've rinsed one cleaner's cyclones out with soap and water and was absolutely disgusted with what came out of it! I had to keep filling it with water, shaking, and dumping it out until the water came out clean. Then, of course, it dried real well. I was shocked... there was SO much dirt stuck up inside the cyclones - when I was through, there was a noticeable change in performance.
I was also surprised by how many clutch mechanisms we've had to replace. Both of the flat belts that go into the clutch are definitely not "lifetime" belts as they claim. They most definitely stretch out, just like any other belt. I'll give them credit that having the clutch is smart--it definitely prolongs the belt life for most of the idiots who are running the cleaner into furniture and sucking up area rugs...
My biggest beef with the DC-07 is the puny little brushroll. I really don't think it's aggressive enough to effectively clean a thick pile carpet.
I do however feel that if one absolutely has to have a bagless machine, they're the lesser of all evils, and the easiest to empty. I dont have any experience with the other models, but the only one that really intrugues me is the Slim, and the Dyson "Junior" that's currently out there.
~F
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Pink has Arrived!
Fred,
I had forgotten you worked on other machines when you were with Hoover. Thanks for sharing all the information. I have an nice 9x12 dining room rug sitting in the garage for the trash because the first Dyson I bought ruined the rug and my Anniversary Windtunnel was doing the same thing. This NEVER happened when I cleaned this rug with an older Hoover that had the soft brushes and beater bar or my "real" vac-the Kirby Legend that I bought back in 1989.
My "Little Fred Hoover" shampooer got an emergency run this morning thanks to my old cockers,Donie and Marie.
Thank you for getting it for me! It's been a real life saver.
Rob
Fred-Isn't that pink just over the top! It could be 1955 again.
Fred,
I had forgotten you worked on other machines when you were with Hoover. Thanks for sharing all the information. I have an nice 9x12 dining room rug sitting in the garage for the trash because the first Dyson I bought ruined the rug and my Anniversary Windtunnel was doing the same thing. This NEVER happened when I cleaned this rug with an older Hoover that had the soft brushes and beater bar or my "real" vac-the Kirby Legend that I bought back in 1989.
My "Little Fred Hoover" shampooer got an emergency run this morning thanks to my old cockers,Donie and Marie.
Thank you for getting it for me! It's been a real life saver.
Rob
Fred-Isn't that pink just over the top! It could be 1955 again.
