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What would you pick?

  • Samsung Bespoke AI Jet Ultra: Ultra-powerful, but wasteful and dupe-@$$ and easily expensive

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Dreame Z30: Cheap shot for nice motor, cheap competitor to others

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • SEBO Balance A1: Poor man's Dyson Cyclone V10, made by a now-wrongly praised bagged maker

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Lupe Pure: Anti-stick, cordless that just couldn't sustain it's existence or remaining innovation

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Henry Quick: Bagged, bagged, bagged, bagged and bagged as f#¢k, despite the iconic smiley face

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Dyson V8 (any version): Reliable&light but too cheap+compromised to be able to fully main-equivalent

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • eufy E20: Robot stick that can barely do any job at all except for its space-saving

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Cheap-@$$ knockoffs of advanced stuffs that doesn't do halfway as well as any of the real deal

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    2

Absolute Rainbow

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We have a bunch of advanced vacuums that has at least one significant flaws that hold them back relative to current perfection, or maybe just greatness at the moment. The choices are in this poll itself.

(Excuse me for the censoring in the options though...)
 
Not on the list, but if I were to get a cordless vacuum, I would get one that fits in my existing tool battery ecosystem (Makita, Milwaukee, Ryobi, etc).

I wouldn't be surprised if those performed worse than some on your poll, but you are already getting inferior performance by choosing cordless anyway, so performance wouldn't be my primary consideration for choosing a cordless. I'd rather just choose from something that doesn't add another expensive and wasteful battery that will lose capacity over time and eventually fail.

*edit* Any reviewers out there that have tested mainstream cordless vacuums vs some of the tool brand ones?
 
Not on the list, but if I were to get a cordless vacuum, I would get one that fits in my existing tool battery ecosystem (Makita, Milwaukee, Ryobi, etc).

I wouldn't be surprised if those performed worse than some on your poll, but you are already getting inferior performance by choosing cordless anyway, so performance wouldn't be my primary consideration for choosing a cordless. I'd rather just choose from something that doesn't add another expensive and wasteful battery that will lose capacity over time and eventually fail.

*edit* Any reviewers out there that have tested mainstream cordless vacuums vs some of the tool brand ones?
Tool brands count towards the "knockoffs" option, the last one. @Hatsuwr, that means you chose the knockoffs. I expect you to vote accordingly.
 
Tool brands count towards the "knockoffs" option, the last one. @Hatsuwr, that means you chose the knockoffs. I expect you to vote accordingly.

Your descriptor of the option is a bit much for me to agree with lol. The poll would have been better without the commentary in the list. There's only one vote so far - maybe remake it?

If you do remake it, I'd add an option for tool brands, and change "knock-off" to other. Also, does Kirby even have a cordless? And why no Dyson Gen5detect or V15 Detect? Any what about Shark? Maybe add their Stratos and PowerDetect.
 
Your descriptor of the option is a bit much for me to agree with lol. The poll would have been better without the commentary in the list. There's only one vote so far - maybe remake it?

If you do remake it, I'd add an option for tool brands, and change "knock-off" to other. Also, does Kirby even have a cordless? And why no Dyson Gen5detect or V15 Detect? Any what about Shark? Maybe add their Stratos and PowerDetect.
NGL, the commentary is unnecessary and EXTREMELY biased.
 
Your descriptor of the option is a bit much for me to agree with lol. The poll would have been better without the commentary in the list. There's only one vote so far - maybe remake it?

If you do remake it, I'd add an option for tool brands, and change "knock-off" to other. Also, does Kirby even have a cordless? And why no Dyson Gen5detect or V15 Detect? Any what about Shark? Maybe add their Stratos and PowerDetect.
V15 Detect are really well-received for a Dyson (your mileage may vary; f#¢k the current state of Dyson's award-winning customer service), and the power trigger wasn't too big of a problem. Gen5 is a refinement and removed the trigger. To be honest, that trigger and the extra weight are medium-level issues, neither minor nor major. I am talking about truly major problems.

@Hatsuwr consider this: any tool brand can make a dupe. That's one reason why tool brands are to be put into the cheap knockoffs. They're mere tools, and should be treated as some dupes that happens to function but not necessarily work like actual proper mains-equivalent cordless stuffs.

Another reason why I had not directly included the Stratos or PowerDetect: there's simply not enough poll choices allowed. The facts that Shark's cordless models all copied Dyson therefore put them in cheap knockoffs category.

Here's the outstanding enough to be dedicated options within that 10-option vote limit:
- Lupe Pure is pretty obvious, because it's a freaking upright. And duping technologies from Dyson as poorly as normally expected for the time, at that. Then Lupe themselves shut down...
- Samsung Bespoke Jet Ultra (and its less powerful and lighter variant, Jet Lite) are wasteful and dupe-@$$. Just look at the shape of the handheld and the main cleaner head, for example. Bulky dual brushrolls (similar to Lupe Pure), with non-powered soft roller and mid brush bar, and questionable sealing and unswept hard floors edges. The shape itself is too front-heavy even for the on-line version of the form factor that Dyson pioneered - heck, the cyclones are still 3-inlets-per-cone, which isn't too good, unlike the truly effective single-inlet-per-cone cyclones Dyson have had since even before the 5,127th prototype was made. Looking at both the old Samsung Jet review by Vacuum Facts himself as well as the RTINGS review of the Jet Ultra, and you can see why. It gets worse no matter which source (Tom's Guide thought the Ultra was perfect though...), so... yeah.
- SEBO Balance A1 looks like a poor man's V10 but likely performs like a dragged-out DC35 Digital Slim. Ditto for Dream Z30 to V15 Detect, with sloppy sensors holding it's holding nice motor back. eufy E20 tried to be both a bagless stick and a robot vac in one package, which splices up- oh no, I simply can't explain how ridiculous the compromises involved are. Henry Quick is bagged, and that enforces running cost and potential landfills, which is not worth the modern standards.
- And the most damning of all and even more obvious than even the Lupe... FACKING KIRBY! I know not all of you will like it, but Vacuum Facts is right about Kirby vacuums. They're too ancient to keep its legendary status at this point, and even ordinary dupes of Dyson's cordless mains-equivalents are able to outperform all Kirby machines in deep cleaning performance and versatility. A hunting bagged, corded trash that only belong to the first half of the 20th century, not the 21st!
- There are two Dysons as dedicated options. Dyson V8 had to catch up and is too cheap to fully allow for mains-equivalent capabilities (V8 Cyclone is the first to at least reliably come close, based on the new specs), whereas Dyson V16 Piston Animal... f#¢k Dyson's current suits for crippling that otherwise legendary machine out of the box! What a tragic mess.
NGL, the commentary is unnecessary and EXTREMELY biased.
Commentary there? What commentary? I was just trying to get you guys to vote.

@royalfan103, I am sorry for the apparent bias, but this is about choosing the very best of some of the worst yet.
 
Commentary there? What commentary? I was just trying to get you guys to vote.

@royalfan103, I am sorry for the apparent bias, but this is about choosing the very best of some of the worst yet.

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"Dyson V16 Piston Animal: Advanced and powerful, but crippled by Dyson's newfound design stupidity
Samsung Bespoke AI Jet Ultra: Ultra-powerful, but wasteful and dupe-@$$ and easily expensive
Dreame Z30: Cheap shot for nice motor, cheap competitor to others
SEBO Balance A1: Poor man's Dyson Cyclone V10, made by a now-wrongly praised bagged maker
Lupe Pure: Anti-stick, cordless that just couldn't sustain it's existence or remaining innovation
Henry Quick: Bagged, bagged, bagged, bagged and bagged as f#¢k, despite the iconic smiley face
Dyson V8 (any version): Reliable&light but too cheap+compromised to be able to fully main-equivalent
eufy E20: Robot stick that can barely do any job at all except for its space-saving
Kirby (vacuum): Fallen legend that just doesn't work and doesn't match any modern standards at all
Cheap-@$$ knockoffs of advanced stuffs that doesn't do halfway as well as any of the real deal"

If this ain't unnecessary commentary, IDK what is.
 
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"Dyson V16 Piston Animal: Advanced and powerful, but crippled by Dyson's newfound design stupidity
Samsung Bespoke AI Jet Ultra: Ultra-powerful, but wasteful and dupe-@$$ and easily expensive
Dreame Z30: Cheap shot for nice motor, cheap competitor to others
SEBO Balance A1: Poor man's Dyson Cyclone V10, made by a now-wrongly praised bagged maker
Lupe Pure: Anti-stick, cordless that just couldn't sustain it's existence or remaining innovation
Henry Quick: Bagged, bagged, bagged, bagged and bagged as f#¢k, despite the iconic smiley face
Dyson V8 (any version): Reliable&light but too cheap+compromised to be able to fully main-equivalent
eufy E20: Robot stick that can barely do any job at all except for its space-saving
Kirby (vacuum): Fallen legend that just doesn't work and doesn't match any modern standards at all
Cheap-@$$ knockoffs of advanced stuffs that doesn't do halfway as well as any of the real deal"

If this ain't unnecessary commentary, IDK what is.
No context is a no go. We needed context to even understand. I sought context from Vacuum Facts and his physics-based knowledge and cordless experience, not his drawn-out explanations. I even tried to follow his infos, though he tends to tell me that I got it wrong. I don't mind being proven wrong, I needed to know stuffs.

I deserves context and I demand it, and you should too. Those so-called commentary you pointed out are actually descriptions - dear @royalfan103, descriptions as to why the options are as such. If I don't explain why these are even options, how would you even know about what you were voting for?

Sooooo... ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯
 
It sounds like you may have already identified what you see as the “significant” flaws in each of these vacuums, but the way it’s worded feels a little unclear. It might be more helpful if you listed the specific flaw you see in each one. That way, we can look at them together and either agree or disagree with your assessment, rather than just being told they all have flaws.
 

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