patriot,miracle mate and tristar

[queeny77]

how are the three associated with each other, which is the best one to have, miracle mate tristar or patriot.

 

[tolivac]

Like all of these-they are vertical bag canisters with horizontal mounted motor behind the bag.Their idea is dirt enters the front top part of the bag-the air intake area of the bag stays clear until the bag is completly full.The air current from the intake keeps the motor intake clear.The idea of these machines was from Interstate Engineering on the primciples of wing vortexes on airplanes.Because WW2 ended-there went most of Interstate Engineerings business-they made trainer planes and plane parts.Their vacuum cleaners were then the mainstay of their business.They also made large die cast parts-IE "mag" wheels for cars and trucks.And yes,their vacuums were also used for aircraft cleaning in the days when using a universal motored vac was OK.Now under newer FAA rules-aircraft vacuums now have to have brushless motors.These now run from the aircrafts 3Ph 400 Hz supplies.-Usually backpack machines-airliner cleaning.Look under your chair next time you are on a plane-there may be a 400Hz outlet to power their vacuum.

 

[countryguy]

The Vortech Force is another vac that is similiar in design. The Tristar and Patriot do not have automatic cord rewinders whereas the other 2 vacs do...if that is of any concern.

Gary

 

[dysonman1]

Interstate started it with the Compact (and added Revelation in 1950). Harold Schoettler was President of Interstate for several decades (70's and 80's). He started his own company and produced a plastic bodied Compact with a few minor improvements. This is the Patriot and Air Storm models. Tri-Star is the name that the Compact was changed to in the early 1980's - to differentiate the door to door model (Tri-Star) from the retail vac shop model (Compact). Eventually, the Compact name was dropped altogether. Electrolux (Aerus) and Tri-Star are owned by the same company today, and the machines share many components like motor, power nozzle, attachments, etc. The Miracle Mate was designed to compete with Tri-Star for door to door sales. The added cord rewinder makes the machine very heavy. The Miracle Mate uses a disposable bag that's somewhat different from a Tri-Star bag, and you can't very successfully interchange them - the Miracle Mate bags will be much harder to obtain than Tri-Star bags.

If I was going to buy one (and I actually one of each of these cleaners) I would go for the Tri-Star. Parts are easy to obtain and are reasonable in cost.

 

[blackheart]

Best one to have?

I've owned
A Tristar CXL ( made by interstate)
A Tristar MG2 (newer aerus made model)
A Miracle Mate
And a Patriot

Of the 4 i've had the Patriot and tristar CXL were the favorites.
The miracle mate was heavy and didn't produce as much airflow as the CXL or patriot.
The MG2's original motor had strong suction but very poor flow, it was replaced with a dual stage motor from the EXL, and now it's a decent machine but i'm not big on the tools they use.
The Patriot is more powerful than the CXL and has that HUGE hepa filter on the back that will last quite some time, but suffered from having a poor powerhead (Sebo ET-C) so i sold the powerhead and use it with Eureka Vibragroomer III. As for the CXL it was sold in favor of the Patriot, because i felt they were too similar to one another, and the patriot being more powerful gave it the edge.

 

[tolivac]

TriStar bags in Miracle Mate-Have a Miracle Mate that came from the local dealers trade in pile.It has the cardboard top adaptor from a Miracle Mate bag in the machines lid.Just simply put a TriStar bag in it and away you go!!Works fine!did that with my other Miracle Mate.
I don't like the Miracle Mate cord winder-cord too short and the winder wants to try to wind the cord if the machine is bumpted into something.Like the maunal wind cords on the Compacts adn TriStars better-and they are longer.Have the Patriot,too-another nice machine.All in all,like the TriStar CXL the best--the "Little Pig"use it along with my full grown "Pig"NSS M1.

 

[cleanairhybrid]

Old Post, need any Help?

This is kind of an old thread, just checking in 2020 if anyone needs any Patriot Parts or supplies; feel free to let me know.

Also, we are on the P4 Model now, Purple with Arc 3 motor. One of my favorite designs of any machine. Also, full digital color display with maintenance and filter check on the body.

These are amazing, and last a long time.

I'm based out of Southern Illinois, Eastern Missouri if anyone needs help.
Kyle

www.air-lion.com