Is it more imporstant to have a new cord that doesn't match the machine, or an original that has some exposed wiring? I prefer to have a new cord, as I will be more likely to actually use the machine, instead of letting it become another display piece.
Original Cord vs. Replacement Cord
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djtaylor
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I won't use a cord that is damaged. I don't even like to use them if the plug end has been replaced with one of those cheep replacements. I try to get a new or newer cord that matches the old one or at least is fairly close. If I can't find one that's close then I put on what I CAN get and use it till something better comes along.
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I prefer to keep the original if at all possible, even if it is a bit frayed
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Personally, I'm not a fan of electric shocks, so I prefer to replace than to stick with ones already fitted if I'm going to use a vac...
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To Me....
....This is a "now and later" issue. If a cord has fraying or exposed wire, then of course I replace it. If an exact match isn't available, then I use whatever is the correct gauge, and worry about a match later.
One of the nice things about replacing cords is, it's usually an easy task. Unless, of course, they're in an Electrolux cordwinder belonging to a 1205 or later machine!
....This is a "now and later" issue. If a cord has fraying or exposed wire, then of course I replace it. If an exact match isn't available, then I use whatever is the correct gauge, and worry about a match later.
One of the nice things about replacing cords is, it's usually an easy task. Unless, of course, they're in an Electrolux cordwinder belonging to a 1205 or later machine!
My 1982 Electrolux 502S has the original cord with a patch of black gaffer tape wrapped around some of it where I presume the rubber has cracked, but I haven't removed the tape so I don't know anything else about it.
I suppose I probably should take the tape off sometime and check, but what I think has probably happened is the rubber has cracked but the wires inside still have their rubber intact.
At least I hope that's what's happened!
I suppose I probably should take the tape off sometime and check, but what I think has probably happened is the rubber has cracked but the wires inside still have their rubber intact.
At least I hope that's what's happened!
gsheen
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having suffered more than my share of electric shocks I always replace the cord with a high quality silicone cable in the matching colour. I have red, orange grey white tan brown dark browm black and yellow reals of the stuff.
If the cord is frayed it could spark when you are using it an set your carpet on fire or atleast leave a nice small burnt patch, happened to me before.
Vintage machines are lovely to use and great to admire but remember they tend to be metal and your life is worth more than the look of the cord. On old cords the earth strap could be broken and you would never know until something goes ver very wrong and you touch the unit.
This happened to me on my beautiful Royal 215 and it hurt allot
ALWAY TEST THE EARTH OF THE MACHINE PLEASE
If the cord is frayed it could spark when you are using it an set your carpet on fire or atleast leave a nice small burnt patch, happened to me before.
Vintage machines are lovely to use and great to admire but remember they tend to be metal and your life is worth more than the look of the cord. On old cords the earth strap could be broken and you would never know until something goes ver very wrong and you touch the unit.
This happened to me on my beautiful Royal 215 and it hurt allot
ALWAY TEST THE EARTH OF THE MACHINE PLEASE
gsheen
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Yea models with double insulated electrical systems are better. Its the real old ones , from the 40 and before that are scary stuff.
The last thing you want is your wife, partner, who ever walking in to find a crispy smoking version of you stuck to a old vacuum while attempting to clean the carpet
The last thing you want is your wife, partner, who ever walking in to find a crispy smoking version of you stuck to a old vacuum while attempting to clean the carpet
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Hmmmmm....
<span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">I guess I'll go with safety and try to get a cord that is identical or, at least, as close as psossible.</span>
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<span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">Don't like the idea of becoming a "crispy critter." My hair is not curly now and don't want it to become curly or extinct as a result of using of my vac.</span>
<span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">I guess I'll go with safety and try to get a cord that is identical or, at least, as close as psossible.</span>
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<span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">Don't like the idea of becoming a "crispy critter." My hair is not curly now and don't want it to become curly or extinct as a result of using of my vac.</span>
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"if at all possible"
<span style="font-size: medium;">I'm with Derek. Although it needs to be safe, some minor fraying (no copper exposed) is no big deal to me though I of course prefer a wonderful, intact, original cawd (lol). If it can be salvaged, and especially if it maintains its original plug, I'm all for keeping it!</span>
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<span style="font-size: medium;">I'm with Derek. Although it needs to be safe, some minor fraying (no copper exposed) is no big deal to me though I of course prefer a wonderful, intact, original cawd (lol). If it can be salvaged, and especially if it maintains its original plug, I'm all for keeping it!</span>
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Gareth:
Well, of course, electricity is more dangerous where you are, being, I understand, 220-240v. That's like the U.K. - their current will weld you to the wall if something goes wrong.
American/Canadian 110v current is not quite as dangerous, but still something for which one should have every respect.
Well, of course, electricity is more dangerous where you are, being, I understand, 220-240v. That's like the U.K. - their current will weld you to the wall if something goes wrong.
American/Canadian 110v current is not quite as dangerous, but still something for which one should have every respect.
vintagerepairer
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The Electricity Safety Council wedbiste has some useful videos. They are not for the feint hearted.
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That happens a lot. It is when a capacitor in the machine still has current in it. All Moulinex appliances were a nightmare for this, as were some Hoover Turbopower cleaners and many brands of white goods. I am no expert in electronics, I just know that the addition of another piece of circuitry, a resister I think, is often used across the capacitor to stop the user getting a jolt. Sometimes the current is felt when touched the N and E terminals on an earthed appliance.
Yes you are right Benny. Microwaves have a capacitor in them that holds electricity after power off. It is the same if you're working on a microwave, you should take great care as that capacitor can leave the internals "charged" for some time.
gsheen
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Sandy
Actually you have a higher percentage of been injured than I do due to the fact that 110v ha higher amps than 220v.
I have shocked my self a few times over the years but the one I remember the most and that landed me a trip in the bus with disco lights to the hospital was 110v
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Actually you have a higher percentage of been injured than I do due to the fact that 110v ha higher amps than 220v.
I have shocked my self a few times over the years but the one I remember the most and that landed me a trip in the bus with disco lights to the hospital was 110v
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Gareth:
I will take your word for it! I have little taste for experimenting with electricity; my dad worked with it in his job (television repair, back in the '50s and '60s, when high voltage ruddy well MEANT high voltage), and I saw him get shocked a few times.
Sorry you've had the same experience.
I will take your word for it! I have little taste for experimenting with electricity; my dad worked with it in his job (television repair, back in the '50s and '60s, when high voltage ruddy well MEANT high voltage), and I saw him get shocked a few times.
Sorry you've had the same experience.
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"It isn't painful, just a strange numbing sensation.
I'd dispute that, when I was repairing the motor in the washing machine, I placed my hand on the motor to make sure it wasn't getting hot after replacing the carbon brushes, and I managed to place one of my fingers onto one of the contacts for the brushes, and then noticed a wisp of smoke coming from said finger, then the pain hit and I leapt about four feet in the air, hand still smoking, almost landing on the pile of scrap metal that was in the workshop at the time...... :S
The washer was fine after that ordeal though, and is still running today...
I'd dispute that, when I was repairing the motor in the washing machine, I placed my hand on the motor to make sure it wasn't getting hot after replacing the carbon brushes, and I managed to place one of my fingers onto one of the contacts for the brushes, and then noticed a wisp of smoke coming from said finger, then the pain hit and I leapt about four feet in the air, hand still smoking, almost landing on the pile of scrap metal that was in the workshop at the time...... :S
The washer was fine after that ordeal though, and is still running today...
gsheen
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I have had various sensations when been shocked , from the tingeling sensation to the thrown off my feet.
Years ago I went on a off road trip with a friend , in the pouring rain our old landdrover defender broke down I was standing in a pool of water checking the HT leads when he "accidently" tried to start the engine. It zapped me so hard I flew aa few feet backwards into a nice thorny bush. that wasa 12v battery . do this day I still question his accident everytime we get together for a beer. Little $#!t !!!!!
Electricity of any voltage can injure or kill you be careful
Jmurry bus with disco lights
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Gareth
Years ago I went on a off road trip with a friend , in the pouring rain our old landdrover defender broke down I was standing in a pool of water checking the HT leads when he "accidently" tried to start the engine. It zapped me so hard I flew aa few feet backwards into a nice thorny bush. that wasa 12v battery . do this day I still question his accident everytime we get together for a beer. Little $#!t !!!!!
Electricity of any voltage can injure or kill you be careful
Jmurry bus with disco lights
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Gareth
Ah, the famous HT lead one! I've heard that many times before, usually from somebody who touches them while the engine is running and also touches the metal bonnet (hood) at the same time. Luckily I've never done that.
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"I bet you'll be more careful when doing any other w
Nah, it's a Creda, it's lasted about 10-12 (possibly more cos I don't actually know how old it is) years with only a replaced door hinge and new carbon brushes (and new fill hoses, but that's cos the mother's ex destroyed the old ones by wedging them behind the washer and they got crushed & split), it just keeps on truckin' with hardly any maintenance...
I would prefer a Hotpoint Supermatic 9404 twintub though...
As for HT leads in cars, well, that's not 12 volts, that's a few thousand volts courtesy of the ignition coil pack, enough to jump the gap in the spark plug, and enough to hurl people about if they happen to "jump the gap" as it were... :S
Nah, it's a Creda, it's lasted about 10-12 (possibly more cos I don't actually know how old it is) years with only a replaced door hinge and new carbon brushes (and new fill hoses, but that's cos the mother's ex destroyed the old ones by wedging them behind the washer and they got crushed & split), it just keeps on truckin' with hardly any maintenance...
I would prefer a Hotpoint Supermatic 9404 twintub though...
As for HT leads in cars, well, that's not 12 volts, that's a few thousand volts courtesy of the ignition coil pack, enough to jump the gap in the spark plug, and enough to hurl people about if they happen to "jump the gap" as it were... :S
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True and the engine fitted was one of those with a coil per cyclinder. UM defenders are built tough but there rover v8 had a habit of um not working so it was replaced with a v8 from a lexus
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Well, only Rover thought their V8 was reliable, especially if it was the 3.5L...
Plus it was based on a rejected GM V8 engine (too small for the US market, apparently), and they're not terribly reliable either...
Plus it was based on a rejected GM V8 engine (too small for the US market, apparently), and they're not terribly reliable either...
