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Ohio_Tuec...

Argos (a UK catalogue shop) currently are selling the DC14 at about £140 (about $206). I would much rather own a Dyson than an Oreck and I don't like bagless vacuums AT ALL. I'm completely with Jack regarding the Oreck. The last time I saw an offer for them was in Readers Digest.

And I have to say - my aunt had her Dyson collected for repair and hand delivered back to her house in the space of a week by a Dyson engineer so I have no problems with their customer service.

And Dyson actually have suction power. Why would I want to pay £400 for a noisy carpet sweeper when I can pay around £100/£200 less for a Miele or Sebo upright which does a MUCH better job and is considerably quieter?
 
Dyson Customer service

Well, here in New York, it's a disaster. Dyson REFUSED to sell me anything directly because they could not tabulate New York sales tax. As a result, I had to go through Sears (probably paying more) to get the parts I needed. For the same price you could buy a DC07 - $399., you could have a nice middle of the road Oreck (model U3770) which to me, would be money much better spent. Plus, with the Oreck you get free yearly service. I dare say Dyson doesn't do that. Maybe if James Dyson would build a cleaner that uses a bag, he'd get it right!
 
Maybe in the UK, you don't have as large a selection of vacuums. I will say this. I'm sorry Fantom is no longer in business, they produced a better quality bagless vac than the Dyson. Even the Amway ClearTrak is a better choice.
 
our orecks

My mother and I both love ours its not a daily driver more of a quick picker upper. I have no complaints. whats noisy is my concepts they are friggin loud.
 
Well, to me, having free yearly service on a vacuum means something. I will grant that your Dyson has greater suction power, but what good is it if the roller brush is so aggressive and tears up the fibers of your carpet? I wouldn't dare use it on my newly installed wall-to-wall carpet because I know the bin will be filled with fiber and the carpet threadbare in no time. Not to mention the fact that bagless machines spew dust particles back in the air much more easily than a bagged cleaner. If what you and Vintagehoover are saying is true, we here in America are getting SCREWED pricewise on Dyson. I would love to see a brand new DC-14 available here for $206.00. James Dyson is trying to pawn off his wares to unsuspecting US customers for double the price! Another reason to not make me want to buy one.....
 
The new DC27 will be launched in this country later this month, and the most expensive version, the 'Animal', is supposed to sell for £299. The most expensive Dyson I can find onsale at the moment is the DC21 Motorhead, and even that's only £322 - still nearly £100 less than an Oreck XL7.

But I find the comparison with the Miele S7 most illuminating; regardless of what you think of Dyson, surely you must agree the S7 is a fantastic, excellent quality, reliable cleaner. What about the design or the construction of the Oreck and that little hand-thing it comes with makes it worth £100 more than the S7? You're not exactly getting more vac for your money!

Talk about getting screwed pricewise!
 
Re: Die-soon

I agree with you on that one. My friend Linda bought a purple dyson 2 yrs. ago and the drive belt whatever you call it thing stopped the brush roll. She took it to be reparied and that will be $150.00. She said f8ck that and now I will find her something good on Ebay......Bill in Az.....
 
OK... I have worked on both.. There's not much to an Oreck and they are easy to work on. I think they are over priced for what you get. Mostly what you are paying for is the "free tune ups". I sell the Simplicity Freedom which is a better value and I think a better stronger machine. Does Oreck invent anything? The vacuum is a RCA/Whirlpool design that was rejected, the floor scrubber was originally the Orbiter (I have one of the originals) now the Oreck Orbiter, the carpet cleaner is from the out of business Regina, the hand canisters are made by other companies. The Ironman is made by Douglas and theirs is the TinyTurbo.

Dyson. What a nightmare. If you purchase one you must follow the instructions to the letter or expect a hefty repair bill and what a dust pit and a mess. I saw in Consumer Reports the Dyson is listed with fewer repairs. I can only assume that it is reported repairs. I take more in trade in and most wind up spare parts or in the dumpster. I think once the hype is removed there are better machines that are longer lasting for less money. Anyone remember the original Fantom?
 
'If you purchase one you must follow the instructions to the letter or expect a hefty repair bill...'

Since when did doing this become such a challege for people?! They seem to expect their machines to work flawlessly with zero maintenance...it's just laziness!

All the Dyson requires is its filter washing every 3-6 months. If you're the forgetful type, you can go to the Dyson website and sign up for a service they offer where they'll send you an automated email every few months to remind you to wash the filters! It couldn't be easier! I can't believe people actually struggle with this...

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The Fantoms yes. I loved mine. Tom Gasko has every single model. I have a dyson and I love it. Like you see above you can have dyson send you a email. My uncle brougth me his animal to give it a tune up. He never cleaned the filter and it had alot of power left. I love the new dc17. Wait till you see the new models. You wont know what coming. :-)
 
The problem is that most people do not read the instruction manuals so they would not know that they car sign up. Unfortunately Dyson's are mostly sold in education free environments. All of my customers that have had problems and dislike the Dyson just think it's a typical vacuum and just start using it. It's amazing to me how many can quote the commercial "No filter to replace...ever" and think that it has no filters at all and are completely surprised when I show them the filter.
 
Mine is not a commentary on the quality of a Dyson just the expectations of the average customer who spends the money on one. You can't blame Dyson for hitting the mass market with the product but I think it would be best suited in a vacuum store where The customer can be educated on the product. I think if you are going to ask a person to spend that much on a vacuum you owe it to them to educate them. I wouldn't mind selling it in my store. At least I could try and get them to bring it in once a year for a free check up.
 
I don't think anyone can argue this fact - Dyson is a complicated piece of machinery. Moreso than it needs to be. Oreck attacks this fact in some of their advertising, and rightly so. They do have belts that go bad, and the clutch mechanism that drives the brushroll in the DC07 is a veritable nightmare! I can't comment on the quality or performance of the Miele S7. In all honesty, I have never seen one nor do I know if it is available in the United States or not. I'm really not interested in Miele vacuums. I'm not saying Oreck is the be-all to end-all of vacuums, what I am saying is most people will prefer the convenience of changing a bag rather than washing filters. Oh sure, they'll empty the dust bin, they won't clean the seals properly when replacing it, and in no time at all, the machine will be covered with dust. It would still seem to me as if we're paying double or triple here in the states for the same machine you can get in the U.K. James Dyson should be ashamed of himself for doing that!
 
Wow. This thread got a little heated. I don't think there is anything wrong with someone calling a machine junk. It is just their opinion, and it is about a machine, not a person on this forum.

I thought that the Oreck/Halo merger was going to result in a machine that looked like an Oreck, but that just had the UV light underneath. I was a LITTLE shocked to see that it's still a "Halo", but just in a different color. Halo must have had lots of machines in stock to unload before the merger. It doesn't surprise me though... Good ol' Dave always uses other designs and calls them his own... he's not really invented anything.

Now that I've had my Oreck for over a month, I think I can comment on it. My Oreck is pretty loud, and not very powerful. It does pick up better since I bought a new brushroll for it (and an aftermarket brushroll was better quality than an original... the belt pulley was metal instead of plastic). My Oreck actually has a CHANGE in motor pitch as the motor bogs down when I go over surface litter (like cat litter). I watched the Oreck demo on HSN.COM and noticed the same thing! It takes more than one pass to pick up powder on very flat pile carpet. I enjoy having it as a member of my collection, but I would not use it as a daily driver or expect stellar performance from it.

I've had my Dyson DC14 since last May. I bought a used machine, and even though that model is my least favorite Dyson (I'd even prefer a DC07), it seems to perform OK. Of course it took me a month to get rid of the dog smell, but I only paid 100 bucks for it used... I wouldn't pay a new price for one (unless they ever make that self-propelled I've heard rumors about, then I might just "need" it). My does have a problem with the clutch system... every now and then it will click when I'm using it. It doesn't seem to affect performance though... just annoying sound. If the belt ever goes, I will not fix the clutch. I will just throw the machine in the garbage and get a different model. As a collector, I don't like bagless because there's no bag to inflate or puff out. Plus it's messy. However, if I were going to have any bagless, Dyson would be the one. So much better than the machines with the filters inside. Easy to use tools and decent suction as well. Sometimes, I like seeing what was in the floor, and for that I'll use the Dyson. What I don't understand is why so many people actually hate Dyson. It's not perfect, but really, there are a LOT worse choices in the vacuum world... especially bagless.
 
I agree with the person who said (original) Fantoms were better than Dyson. They looked better, cleaned better, and were simpler to use. The attachments were dismal and the hose suction was almost non-existent, yet still, they picked up better than a Dyson. Must be the brush roll.

Ohio_tuec, I also wasn't interested in Miele vacuums until I found a great deal on mine. Now I get warm fuzzy feelings in my vacuum heart just thinking about it. It's a joy to use, performs excellent, and is quite attractive. All my machines are on display in the living room except my Miele. It's in the bedroom... it's my baby and it's always with me. Not to mention the fact that my one bedroom apartment is pretty small, and I ran out of room in the living room for more cleaners! LOL
 
Ohio_tuec..

..I agree with you COMPLETELY about Dyson. I don't like them at all. Loud, bulky, cheap construction and a lousy brush roll and a mess to empty and wash out. My relatives in the states came over not so long ago and were amazed that my aunt over here has a Dyson as they're so expensive in the states. My aunt's reaction was "Oh i only paid about £150 for it" - so yes, you're getting ripped off. I saw reconditioned DC07's on Leeds Market today for £15. What I disagree with you on, is your praise of Oreck and the way have completely brushed off Miele. Oreck and Dyson for me come into the same category of "vacuums I will never use in my house". You seem to be ignoring the fact that the Oreck is a shit vacuum and praising the customer service of the company. Yes, Oreck make great sweepers, but that's all. You said that the Dyson brush roll is too aggressive and will rip up the carpet fibres. Well an Oreck will leave behind all that deep-down and trodden in grit that over time will shred the carpet fibres anyway because it has ABYSMAL suction power - so in the end, what difference does it make?

As for the blasphemy of not being interested in Miele - well I just have to laugh that you'd rather use an Oreck over the best canister vacuums on the market today. I own 2 Miele cylinders and they are both fantastic! Better than ANY cylinder on the market today - reliable, powerful, quiet and easy to empty. As for the S7's, I still can't decided weather or not I prefer Sebo uprights. I don't own an S7 but have tested one in store and it was amazing but it's bloody heavy! The Sebo does an equally good job and is much lighter but it's not as quiet and the Miele has the fantastic swivel neck that makes it so much easier to use.
 
Miele..

I love my Miele Capricorn...a wonderful vacuum...great air movement, quiet. My only complaint would be the hose is about a foot to short. I tend not to use is as a daily cleaner because of that. It feels like the older Luxes, the hose had that cuff on the end that made it stiff and bulky...feeling like you were always pulling the canister with you. The newer vinyl hoses eliminate that problem..and I beleive they are the same length, they just don't have the cuff.

The filtration on the Miele is awesome...never any signs of dust even in the bag chamber itself. Now, if they would make a good dusting brush, lengthen the hose...I would be happy.

My point to all of this is, I like them all. Some may feel like junk, look like junk...but in the overall picture play a part in what this club is all about - Preserving the History of the Vacuum Cleaner.
 

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