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Are you getting the Hyla GST? I’m looking forward to your Quantumvac review. I really enjoyed your Pro Aqua Vivenso review and it made me want one. I just don’t have the $$$ for it.
 
@n0oxy

Congratulations! That looks like a great machine, beautiful vacuum! Did you order the Red or White Model? Just curious and I can’t wait for your thoughts when you get it.

I’ve not added a water filtration vacuum to my collection yet and came close with a Sirena vacuum, but this one looks nicer.

Thanks!
 
got both machines

Yep, got the Quantum, white color and the Hyla GST, two more awesome new canisters for my collection. I will post some reviews once I have used them a bit more, but for the price, the Quantum is very good and well made, the Hyla is also an awesome machine, I plan on using them both more in the nexst few days and posting reviews of both of them as well as a comparison of all of the water filtration machines that I have, I think I now have all of the ones that use separators.
Mike
 
I love my quantum. I also have a robot ns by airflow which was the original quantum sold door to door but no longer made.
The Hyla is great as well but my only real complaint about it is the hose. Too short!
 
I sure hope you bring your Quantum to the Vacuum Collectors Convention in June. We need to take a group photo of all the separator water vacs: Delphin, Big Power, Ocean Blue, Hyla, Sirena, Vivenso, etc. There's two more that I can't remember the names - one has an automatic cord rewinder, and one is made in Lebanon (the country).
 
bringing the Quantum

Sure, I can definitely bring the Quantum to the convention and the Hyla as well, I think you have the other current models. I'm going to keep in touch with the distributors that I bought the Hyla and Vivenso from and they have expressed interest in coming to the convention to meet other collectors which I think would be awesome. It would be neat to have a cleaning competition between the water filtration machines.
The hose on the Hyla is 8 feet long, and the cord is 26 feet long.
I wonder if anyone knows if there are adapters available to convert the European hose receptacle to the hose receptacle that is used in the United States. The standard hose size of hoses in Europe is 35 MM and I have several adapters to convert that to 32 MM size for United States attachments. However, the receptacle on the Hyla hose is wider and it's too loose for United States power nozzles to work, I'm just wondering if an adapter is available for that like there is for the hose size, or if one could be made.
Mike
 
ritello

Actually the Thermax does not have a separator and those would be very difficult to clean out. The vivenso is the newest model made by Pro Aqua, it is an awesome machine. Interesting that you mention the Ritello, I may be able to get one, I'm not sure if it's a separator machine or not.
I will be writing a full review of the Quantum but suffice it to say that it's an awesome machine, it cleans as good as the other machines at a much cheaper price.
Mike
 
@n0oxy

I’ve seen some reviewers say the Quantum Vac separator doesn’t work as good and gets dirty faster. I’ve also seen that the power nozzle isn’t that great with high pile carpeting. What are your thoughts?
 
Oh Yes, the Ritello. I had a chance to see one. A man who sold them visited the Vacuum Cleaner Museum one day. We talked a long time about the invention of the water filtration vacuum (Rexair Series A - 1936) and how they changed over the years. He brought in the Ritello, and I got a chance to feel the suction but we did not put water in it nor did we vacuum with it. The suction was good and it wasn't too loud.

I would love to find one for the collection - hopefully by the time of the Vacuum Collectors Convention in June.

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my review of the Quantum vac

This is my fifth water filtration machine, I will be posting my review of the Hyla in a new thread since this thread is mostly about the Quantum. It is the cheapest separator based water filtration machine available selling at $498 on their web site. Since most of the water filtration machines sell for a much higher price, I wasn't sure what to expect.
The machine has the typical three parts of a water filtration vacuum, the dolly, the basin and the motor unit. Let's start on the bottom and work our way up.
The dolly is shaped similar to other water filtration machines and has the wheels on the bottom, there is also a holder on the front for storing attachments. One difference with this machine is that there is no latch to hold the machine in place. This allows you to put the machine in the dolly any way you choose. Since there was no latch, I thought that when the machine was full of water, if I picked it up by the top handle that the dolly would fall off, but this did not happen. In order to remove the machine from the dolly, tilt it slightly and pull one side out, the rest of the machine will separate from the dolly easily at this point.
The basin looks somewhat like the basin for a Rainbow. It has a post in the middle and you are supposed to fill the basin until the water covers the top of the post. The post can be unscrewed and removed although I'm not sure you would want to do this other than to clean it perhaps. Interestingly, this machine seems to hold more water than the other machines. When you fill it until the top of the post is covered, the water is closer to the top of the basin than with other machines. This is probably a good thing as it will keep debris off the separator better. The basin is not completely open, it's not as bad as a Rainbow but it does have somewhat of a roof on it that debris can cling to, I prefer a basin that is totally open to avoid this issue. One thing I really like about the Quantum, and the Vivenso as well is that the hose inlet is actually on the basin, not the motor unit. This means that the hose inlet can be washed out if necessary. If there is debris in the inlet of the other machines, you would probably have to vacuum a bit of water through the hose to clean them out.
Ok, on to the main part of the machine, the motor unit. The motor unit sets on top of the basin and has two side latches that hold it in place. The latches look very much like the latches on a Rainbow. On the front of the motor unit is the receptacle for the electric hose. There is no cord that you have to connect though. When connecting the electric hose, the suction part goes in to the inlet on the basin and the prongs on the hose mate with the connector on the motor unit. The hose connector is slightly different than other water filtration machines. Most of the other machines have two side clips that hold the hose in place. With the Quantum, there is a button on the top of the hose connector that you press as you connect the hose, this button is also used to release the hose from the machine. On the back of the motor unit is the exhaust port, to use the machine as a blower you remove the cap and insert the hose in to the port. This is the only water filtration machine I have seen that has a cord that is completely detachable. The back of the motor unit has a receptacle that the cord goes in to, it will snap in to place when plugged in. To release the cord, press down on the latch on the top of the cord and pull it out. This makes storing the machine much easier and is a very nice feature. The machine has a touch control panel. I'm a blind person so this was a bit challenging for me to figure out, I can see light and some objects but cannot read print. I had to touch different areas in order to figure out where each button was, fortunately there are only four buttons so this was fairly easy after spending some time with the machine. There is a power button that you press to turn the machine on, there is also a low speed button, a high speed button and a timer button. The low speed is used for washing the air or delicate vacuuming and the high speed mode is used for most vacuuming where you want full power. The timer button lets you set the machine to run from 15 minutes up to two hours.
For the price, the machine includes lots of accessories. There are two hoses, one electric and one nonelectric, a curved wand that attaches to the nonelectric hose, a hard floor brush, a crevice tool, a dusting brush, a squeegee attachment, an electric telescopic wand, a nonelectric telescopic wand, an electric power nozzle for the carpets, an upholstery nozzle, and a mini electric brush. When I ordered my machine, they were out of the mini electric brush and said they would send it to me when it became available, instead they sent me a turbine brush and some free fragrances. Most likely, the mini electric nozzle will be the Wessel-werk HEB160 which I already have anyway. The carpet power nozzle is the Wessel-werk EBK340 which is a decent nozzle. It's not as powerful as the EBK360 and does not have manual height adjustment but is still a very well made German power nozzle. The hose end is the standard 32 MM size and the hose receptacle is also standard, so you could use other attachments and power nozzles with the quantum if you wanted to. I'm not really in favor of circuit boards in vacuums, it's another component that can fail and this would especially be true for a machine that uses water but I think all of the water based machines use them so we'll hope for the best.
To use the Quantum, fill the basin up to the top of the post, install the motor unit on top and latch it with the two side latches. You can then set the machine in to the dolly. Press the power button to turn the machine on, you can set the timer at this point and choose the desired speed. There is one big difference when it comes to low speed with this machine. With the Rainbow, Sirena and Vivenso, the low speed is quiet enough that you can do other things in the same room as the machine. With the Quantum, the low speed is much higher and is therefore much more noticeable. Even on low speed, you can vacuum most things with the machine and it will be powerful enough for the task.
Ok, on to performance. The machine cleans very well, I used it to clean my area rugs with the power nozzle and the bare floors in my apartment. It cleans just as well as the other water filtration machines. I also did the turbine test, using the rugrat turbo brush to see how fast the machine could spin it. It's about as fast as the Rainbow, the only water filtration machine that can spin the turbine slightly faster is the Sirena. At one point there was a rumor that this machine used the same separator and motor as the Sirena. I'm not sure about the separator but the motor is definitely different.
Maintaining the Quantum is very similar to the other water filtration machines. Remove the basin and dump out the water. You can remove the separator by removing the nut on the top of it for cleaning. I've only used the machine twice but so far there was absolutely nothing on the separator and the manual claims that you need to clean it every few months.
So, is the Quantum a good machine? Yes, absolutely. It cleans as well as the other water filtration machines at a much cheaper price, about 1/5 of the price of a new Rainbow. I'm not sure how long this machine has been out but if it becomes more popular, the higher priced machines will have some very good competition. If you want a water filtration machine but don't want to pay the higher price for some of the other ones, definitely consider the Quantum.
Since I'm a blind person and can't provide any pictures, I'm going to include some links that should provide pictures of the machine. First, here is the newest infomercial. I do think some of the claims about other machines losing airflow very quickly are taken out of proportion and the part about cleaning with your own vacuum first and then cleaning with the Quantum to see how much better it cleans are incorrect, no vacuum will get everything the first time.

And here is the user's guide for the machine which also provides some pictures. Interesting that they actually say you can use essential oils in it, I would not do that since they can destroy the basin.
https://mojonow.blob.core.windows.n...files/10.11 quantum vacuum owner's manual.pdf
Mike
 
It does look very good value compared to other water vacs.
But I'm still not convinced that water is a very good filtration media. I would still prefer a bag plus a Hepa filter.
 
a few things I forgot to mention in the review

The quantum does not have a Hepa filter on the exhaust, it uses water exclusively for the filter. Also neither hose has a suction relief switch, if you need less suction you need to switch to low speed. Finally, there is no control on the electric hose to turn the power nozzle off, however if you put the wand and neck of the power nozzle in the upright position, the power nozzle will stop. The power nozzle uses a direct connect wand so there are no cords to connect. This means that you cannot clean bare floors with the power nozzle using straight suction, although there would be no reason to do this anyway. For cleaning bare floors, remove the power nozzle and attach the included hard floor brush or another hard floor brush that uses the standard hose size.
Mike
 
does water filtration work

This may be one of those debates that will always continue, and each side will have their reasons for why they think the way they do. Many of us on here, myself included do not like most bagless machines, and for good reason. When you empty them the dust usually goes all over the place, the filters clog very quickly reducing the machine's performance, and, most of the bagless vacuums from companies such as Shark, Dyson, Hoover, Eureka and Bissell are simply very poor quality.
When I decided to try my first water filtration machine, the Sirena, I figured that if I didn't like it, I could sell it and get at least part of what I spent on it back. Not only have I kept the Sirena, I have gotten four more water filtration machines for my collection. I do think the water vacs, at least the ones that use a separator do work with certain limitations, and they address the main issues with bagless machines. When dumping the water, the dust does not go all over everything because it's trapped in the water. I usually dump mine down the toilet, but dumping outside also works. Also, there is no other filter to clog, even on machines that have a secondary Hepa filter, the majority of the filtration is done by the water. Also, the water vacs are well made.
The main restriction with these machines is that they will not filter fine dust such as dry wall dust, or fine powders well. However, other bagless machines and even bagged machines can have problems with this type of debris as well. If you vacuum those kinds of things with a bagged machine, the bag will clog very quickly, especially if it's a paper bag. This is why you will need to change a bag much sooner after vacuuming that kind of thing. Really, for vacuuming dry wall dust and similar things, you need a vacuum designed for that purpose such as a shop vac with a filter designed for that purpose. For common every day debris the water vacs do a great job, after dumping the water, wash the basin and separator and you are good to go. I still love all of my bagged machines as well, but if you want something that is bagless, a water machine is definitely the way to go.
Mike
 

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