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"Alex, take this as you will, but someone who is happy to post pictures in a public forum about vacuum cleaners of their house in that state is in no position to lecture others on deep cleaning...just a thought."

How rude!!
Perhaps I shall come into your house and see how perfect it is, well it must be.
unbelievably odious.
Further more, where was I lecturing anyone personally about "deep cleaning"? I made a general point, I didn't point fingers on anyone. urgh!

RUDE.
 
TP2 build quality

It's certainly a lot better than a tp1, but not a patch on Sebo, plastics are nowhere near as solid, plus the bag door is very flimsy.

When I first got my x4 I thought the cleaner head was metal rather than plastic because of how strong and sturdy it is!

With regards to cleaning being on par to a tp1, yup, you read it and I stand by it!
 
"Feel free, bring a pair of white gloves I'm rather proud of it ;)"

Maybe my mother would be too if she didn't have a 3 year old, 2 teenagers and 2 adults living there, she hates it, but it isn't dirty, she does clean.
 
Rudeness

Yes, I thought it was rude too. But then you too Alex have posted some reasonably sharp comments in the past, so of course you have to reflect on your own behaviour in the same way that a good deal of well-adjusted adults have learned to do.

In your defense, you are, however, still a very young man, unlike the majority of people posting here.
 
When did the constellation come into this discussion?
It didn't however better built than the lot, being metal.

I don't think I know you but you seem a bit of an arse, really, wouldn't you agree?
 
Wouldn't you agree?

Probably, but playing the devil's advocate is always interesting.
 
Haha!

Guys, I think one of the reasons Sebos clean so well is that they don't seem to rely heavily on suction to clean.

I think, due to the deposing of the brush roll housing that you could run the machine without the hose attached and it would still clean up pretty well.

I do like the machines. I used to use them at work and they can take some serious abuse and still continue to clean well. I would be way happier if they had more suction though. To get around the brush height adjuster I would briefly tilt the machine onto its side on every push forward. That would usually trick the machine in to keeping the brush head low. (I used it like that on large entrance carpets that had deep grooves in the pile) The lengths you will go for a clean carpet, ay!? :P

Like with all machines, the brushes soften slightly after some use, which leads the carpet height adjuster to be less keen, so it burrows into the carpet a little more.

I really like like how the X machines pull themselves forward.

And the Felix? I do not have good luck with mine on hard floors. (With the motorised head and the brush switched off) it's just naff. I wish it had the rubber strip behind the brushes like the X4. I really like it for everything else.

And SeboX4, I believe that the brush rolls used in more modern Kirby's has stiffer brush tufts.
 
Dear oh dear, the boxing gloves are on again. Sebo's better than Hoover lol.


 


I have all three models, and as far as I'm concerned, the quality of build of the TP1 is abysmal compared to the Sebo X series, and they were both on sale at the same time as well. You must know that the X1 came out in the very early 90's, and the X4 is only a minor facelift - so the X series is just as "90's" as the Turbopower 2.


The Turbopower 2 is a much better quality machine than the TP1. And it also wasn't susceptible to the fan breaking and excessive vibration like the TP1. Most TP1's suffered with backwards lean, and thin fragile plastic. The TP2 runs rings round the TP1 in terms of build quality.
 
Bagless ball

I sometimes do the tilt trick too if going from one type of flooring to another and can't be bothered to wait for the machine to adjust itself!

Once it gets to the right level the machine basically pulls itself along by it's brushroll!

I haven't used a Kirby more recent than a G series, so I don't really know what the brushrolls are like now, just going by my own experience on that one!
 
with manual adjustment there is no waiting, just slide and go, height at your command, now what height the machine thinks it need to be at which is always to high.
 

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