kirbyotronic
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crevicetool
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Alex,
I'm not a Hoover expert by any means, but I think that is quite a rare machine and would clean up rather well.
Rick
I'm not a Hoover expert by any means, but I think that is quite a rare machine and would clean up rather well.
Rick
vacbear58
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I have not seen many in this colour on here
Well not so far anyway. The nearest equivalent I have seen is the Canadian 418 - there was a thread about this about three or four months ago - I am curious as to where it fits into the Hoover time line - we had our equivalent of this model in 1953, yet it seems in the US that the model 50 derived machines went on past that time. I have also glimpsed versions with blue endcaps, which from a UK veiw would date them after the budgandy version.
Al
Well not so far anyway. The nearest equivalent I have seen is the Canadian 418 - there was a thread about this about three or four months ago - I am curious as to where it fits into the Hoover time line - we had our equivalent of this model in 1953, yet it seems in the US that the model 50 derived machines went on past that time. I have also glimpsed versions with blue endcaps, which from a UK veiw would date them after the budgandy version.
Al
appliguy
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From what I was told...
If my memory serves me correctly, The Hoover Holiday replaced the model 53 Aerodyne tank cleaner in 1954.....Fred Stachnick aka HooverWheelAway would probably be the best source of info on this machine....Fred could you please enlighten us about the history of this rare machine.......PAT COFFEY
If my memory serves me correctly, The Hoover Holiday replaced the model 53 Aerodyne tank cleaner in 1954.....Fred Stachnick aka HooverWheelAway would probably be the best source of info on this machine....Fred could you please enlighten us about the history of this rare machine.......PAT COFFEY
I think the one in this picture is identified as a Holiday
When I find my copy of this, I can get a better look.
When I find my copy of this, I can get a better look.
portable
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Yep, Alan
that's the Holiday. The Holiday had an interesting history. It was the first vacuum that Hoover chose to "outsource" the distribution of to an outside company. At first, it appeared to be a "marriage" made in heaven. But that company badly botched the job.
Complicating this was the fact that the Constellation debuted around the same time, which got HEAVY advertising copy, while the Holiday did not. As a result, the Holiday is a rare collectible now, as not many of them were produced, and purchased, in the US. A similar model style was in production longer in Europe than it was here, though I don't believe it was called the Holiday. It got numbered as part of the "41...." series. Too bad. It was a cool machine.
Somewhere I have the 2-page ad for the Holiday that was in (Life?). It may be one of our Pictures of the Day items - I think I've seen it posted. I have the story of the distribution company being hired by Hoover, published in Electrical Merchandising Magazine. I'll dig it up and start a new thread...JL
that's the Holiday. The Holiday had an interesting history. It was the first vacuum that Hoover chose to "outsource" the distribution of to an outside company. At first, it appeared to be a "marriage" made in heaven. But that company badly botched the job.
Complicating this was the fact that the Constellation debuted around the same time, which got HEAVY advertising copy, while the Holiday did not. As a result, the Holiday is a rare collectible now, as not many of them were produced, and purchased, in the US. A similar model style was in production longer in Europe than it was here, though I don't believe it was called the Holiday. It got numbered as part of the "41...." series. Too bad. It was a cool machine.
Somewhere I have the 2-page ad for the Holiday that was in (Life?). It may be one of our Pictures of the Day items - I think I've seen it posted. I have the story of the distribution company being hired by Hoover, published in Electrical Merchandising Magazine. I'll dig it up and start a new thread...JL
I was surprised to find that on a record album, although I'm sure there are other albums that showed vacuums on them. Hope you can locate your ad, sounds interesting.
appliguy
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It was the first vacuum that Hoover chose to "outsource
That's not what I remember being told ....I remember being told that the Holiday was a true Hoover Product but that it was imported from Britan......PAT COFFEY
That's not what I remember being told ....I remember being told that the Holiday was a true Hoover Product but that it was imported from Britan......PAT COFFEY
hoovercelebrity
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I don't really know...
I do know that it is indeed a rare machine.. it is the model 415... and I assume it uses the same motor that predates the Constellation motor--as do all of the other AeroDyne tanks. My production chart does say that it ran from 1953-1954; and there were roughly 185,000 of the cleaners produced.
Beyond that, I really don't know anything else about the cleaner. I do have a parts diagram for the same cleaner with a Penncrest badge on it from the late 60s or early 70s. I had always assumed that Hoover had these cleaners made by their factory on the other side of the pond, and imported them to the US. I hadn't ever heard they were outsourced, but wouldn't deny that it could have been.
Longtime club member (not sure of his current membership status), Michael Pletcher, has one NIB... Below is a picture of his cleaner, which he brought to the North Canton convention.
It's a cool cleaner.. I'd love to have one someday -- it's the only early Hoover tank I don't have. But the one on eBay is in too rough of shape for me to have an interest in it.
~F
I do know that it is indeed a rare machine.. it is the model 415... and I assume it uses the same motor that predates the Constellation motor--as do all of the other AeroDyne tanks. My production chart does say that it ran from 1953-1954; and there were roughly 185,000 of the cleaners produced.
Beyond that, I really don't know anything else about the cleaner. I do have a parts diagram for the same cleaner with a Penncrest badge on it from the late 60s or early 70s. I had always assumed that Hoover had these cleaners made by their factory on the other side of the pond, and imported them to the US. I hadn't ever heard they were outsourced, but wouldn't deny that it could have been.
Longtime club member (not sure of his current membership status), Michael Pletcher, has one NIB... Below is a picture of his cleaner, which he brought to the North Canton convention.
It's a cool cleaner.. I'd love to have one someday -- it's the only early Hoover tank I don't have. But the one on eBay is in too rough of shape for me to have an interest in it.
~F
hoovercelebrity
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I hadn't ever heard they were outsourced, but wouldn'
Obviously just because I hadn't heard that story -- certainly doesn't make it untrue -- I didn't mean for what I said to come out like that...
I would say, John, that you are definitely one of the true Hoover Historians in this club.. and I'm sure you know more about the company than a good deal of us!
I do have a .pdf copy of the owners manual (in black and white) for the Holiday saved here on my computer. I will try to figure out an easy way to get it uploaded to the site for downloading, or post it in this thread later today or this week.
~F
Obviously just because I hadn't heard that story -- certainly doesn't make it untrue -- I didn't mean for what I said to come out like that...
I would say, John, that you are definitely one of the true Hoover Historians in this club.. and I'm sure you know more about the company than a good deal of us!
I do have a .pdf copy of the owners manual (in black and white) for the Holiday saved here on my computer. I will try to figure out an easy way to get it uploaded to the site for downloading, or post it in this thread later today or this week.
~F
portable
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Wait wait wait.....
The manufacturing of the Holiday was NOT outsourced....it was the DISTRIBUTION of the machine that Hoover decided to give to a distribution company. As far as I know, The Holiday was built in the North Canton factory, though you might be right, Pat, that it was made in Britain. I wish there had been more of them in circulation. I can't BELIEVE that cool NIB one that Michael Pletcher has. Thanks for that photo, Fred. JL
The manufacturing of the Holiday was NOT outsourced....it was the DISTRIBUTION of the machine that Hoover decided to give to a distribution company. As far as I know, The Holiday was built in the North Canton factory, though you might be right, Pat, that it was made in Britain. I wish there had been more of them in circulation. I can't BELIEVE that cool NIB one that Michael Pletcher has. Thanks for that photo, Fred. JL
vacbear58
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UK made?
I suspect that if not made in N Canton it was made in Canada rather than the UK - there are some detail differences between this machine and the UK version - notably the cord grip behind the switch and the UK version had "pip and clip" attachment fixings - the first machine to have them. Although maybe not strictly an accurate difference, the Uk box graphics are very different to the one illustrated above too
When I get a chance I will take some pictures of mine for comparison
Al
I suspect that if not made in N Canton it was made in Canada rather than the UK - there are some detail differences between this machine and the UK version - notably the cord grip behind the switch and the UK version had "pip and clip" attachment fixings - the first machine to have them. Although maybe not strictly an accurate difference, the Uk box graphics are very different to the one illustrated above too
When I get a chance I will take some pictures of mine for comparison
Al
portable
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Hey Al -
Is the one you have called a Holiday? Or did they not name them that in the UK?
Is the one you have called a Holiday? Or did they not name them that in the UK?
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I had one of these a long, long time ago. It was in nice condition with the original hose, but wasn't something I was all that interested in at the time, so I gave it away.
vacbear58
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Holiday In UK?
John
No, it was never called the "Holiday" in the UK, for a very long time it was known as the Hoover Cylinder.
Al
John
No, it was never called the "Holiday" in the UK, for a very long time it was known as the Hoover Cylinder.
Al
hooverbaby
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I once had one..
I once had one in that colour scheme but it's about the only one I ever saw, either on a car boot sale or market stall.
It was put into storage and became another victim of a garage break-in in 2004.
I once had one in that colour scheme but it's about the only one I ever saw, either on a car boot sale or market stall.
It was put into storage and became another victim of a garage break-in in 2004.
hooverbaby
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Oh and BTW..
This was the original 417 in the UK, was it not?
This was the original 417 in the UK, was it not?
