Numatic George opinions

[jmurray01]

I see your point, but that isn't acceptable in my books.

I'd far rather buy an appliance without a warranty which was made to last rather than buy something with a warranty which will require repairs every 6 months.

It says a lot more to me if something can keep on working for years and years without the need of a safe guard.

Especially for the prices Dyson are charging I find it abhorrent that they are not fixing the real issues and instead are fixing things which were never problems in the first place!

 

[vintagerepairer]

Well again you see, what is acceptable to one person is not to another. I am neither a lover or a hater of Dyson appliances. But I do see that a line had to be drawn somewhere and Dyson took the route which they did. For what it is worth, I think it was a massive gamble to chance his very new reputation against on a decision to make below-average quality goods. But that is the route (cyclone - joke) which he chose.

 

[sensotronic]

Dave,

If you're not going to use the George for dry use, I suggest you go for the version without the dry tools. It's
cheaper, doesn't have so much to store and it's blue which I think looks nicer than the green.

http://www.cleanstore.co.uk/products/Product.asp?ID=3322

 

[sebo_fan]

I have a Charles which is perfect for wet/dry use. I also use Charles in the garden but as a daily cleaner, he's too heavy and cumbersome to pull around. He's good as a fail safe. It is true that Charles doesn't act as a 3 in 1 but I already have a Bissell upright washer for the carpets. 


 


I am not a great fan of Which. i was a member from 2007 and ended up cancelling the subscription earlier on this year. They have a great love for Miele vacuums, but the model info data they test each individual model on doesn't add up, especially taking into account that models like the S6 Ecoline and S6 Silence are exactly the same, save for the body colour. Yet, Which seem to find that one or the other is better than the other in some data findings. Which however did award Sebo for being number 1 for reliability of their upright vacs and Miele number 1 for reliability of their cylinder vacs.


 


JM - Numatics come with a 2 year warranty.  See the link below as "proof".



http://www.numatic.co.uk/warranty_policy.aspx

 

[turbo500]

Numatics come with a 2 year warranty

Not that they need it - I've never seen a Numatic cleaner burnt out or beyond repair. Mostly, people end up getting rid of them because they've been used and abused and are filthy. I picked up a 2004 Henry at a Car Boot sale for £10 - it had been used bagless and was filthy. All it needed was a good wash and voila, perfect working Henry. Sold on eBay for £65.

 

[ryry_87]

I can vouch for Numatic reliability having owned the same Henry for 22 years. It's not been wrapped in cotton wool and spent a good number of years as my mums everyday vac. In that time the only thing i've had to do is replace the switch. It still runs as smoothly as it's always done.

I have also owned another Henry from new that I got in 2006, again no issues. My sisters had it for about the last 3 years as her everyday vac.

My nan owns a 2004 and a George. Again no issues with either of them.

This pic is of my c1980 NV200. It was the predecessor to Henry, again all i've had to do with this one is put some new carbons in it because they were almost down to the springs. Again, it works perfectly now as can be seen and heard in the vid, it's actually one of the most powerful Henry's i've ever used, much more so than the current 1200w models. And thats from 680w. The old motor was huge though with massive fans

 

[jmurray01]

I stand corrected, but I wasn't aware of the warranty probably because Numatic don't boast about it - they don't need to!

I know I can't vouch for the reliability with as much "proof" as you lot can but I bought my 2007 Henry HVR 200-22 near the start of this year and he hasn't let me down yet.

The only flaw Numatic had which would have been a cause to use the warranty was the damn push button power switch! They took heed quickly however and put the rocker switch back on. If that had been Dyson we'd still have a dodgy push switch now no doubt.

 

[turbo500]

My Dad has a 1979 NV250, pre-Henry branding and all metal, similar to the one Ryan has above but a lot less rounded. This is my Dads work vacuum, and was provided by British Gas when he first started with them. And it's never missed a beat, despite being thrown around in the back of a fan and used to clean out filthy boilers. My Dad also once vacuumed up an entire sink full of water by accident and it still works fine.

 

[jmurray01]

Don't you mean "van" Chris ?

 

[turbo500]

Don't you mean "van" Chris ?

ooops. Yes, sorry...


 

 

[Scaniabebe]

Ah, Numatic...

Been a Numatic user, I am fairly experianced with these machines. I own a 2011 HVR200-A and a GVE180, I must say, the George is a very good vac.

But, I may suggest that with your purchase, you buy a Numatic Airo Brush for use on carpets, as with the higher power of George, the airdriven brush spins much faster and grooms the carpet more.

George also does very well at cleaning carpets, my carperts are about a year old and the bedroom carpet, got a whole Canister full of Black, sludgy water!:S

Still, I would definatly encorage you to purchase, as it'll last you years, and does a very good job at cleaning!

 

[sebo_fan]

I think you'll find then, that even if Numatic have an impeccable reliability record, that every manufacturer is falling into the warranty game whether their products need it or not. Our original Sebo X1 A didn't have the 5 year warranty from Sebo because Sebo didn't offer that, back then. I think it came with a 1 or 2 year guarantee but in all its 15 or so many years, it never had to be returned and never suffered a fault apart from its original drive belt breaking, which was totally my fault!

 

[rutger]

Hello

Thanks very much to all for all the comments & opinions they've definitely helped !

After a great deal of deliberation it looks like the way forward might be to buy a dedicated carpet cleaner (Bissell) & possibly get a Numatic Charles wet & dry at a later date (Charles could take care if necessary of any leaks etc).I might even buy the Charles second-hand.

The dedicated cleaner I like is the Bissell Cleanview Reach, as they look like fairly decent carpet cleaners (I hope ?) & have a revolving brush bar so it should make it easier/ more efficient than suction only. They are also on offer at reduced price in several places & as it won't get hammered or over-used i'm hoping will last a decent time.

Hopefully with my normal vacuums, the Bissell & at some point a Charles that should cover everything !

Cheers
Dave

 

[sebo_fan]

Hi Dave


As the owner of a Bissell carpet upright, I was shocked to discover that Bissell's upright washers aren't like normal upright vacuum cleaners - I assumed that the suction channel would be behind the roller brush, but, in actual fact the suction channel is in front of the roller brushes, thus the brushes just continuously roll. If you have new carpets, you'll find that the roller constantly clogs up, so just be aware of that. The brush roll is just there for agitation.


 


If you are going to buy a Bissell upright washer, make sure you buy one with a hose - it is a lot more practical and far easier to use for spot cleans than trusting in the bigger floor head itself.

 

[rutger]

Thanks for the info' sebo_fan it's appreciated.

Cheers
Dave

 

[sebo_fan]

Glad I could help!