No more corded vacuums to be developed by Dyson
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The cordless Dyson-too me this is simply a machine for spot cleaning-WILL NOT replace a full size corded vacuum.Batteries eventually do wear and burn out-so they have to be recycled or disposed of.They can last for many recharge cycles so they are better than disposable non rechargeable batteries.
Stuff going to the landfill-its going to get a "pressing" journey to there-the trash truck compactor-these can compress over 1000lbs into only one cubic yard!The landfill compactor is a massive machine with an oversized dozer type blade and lugged steel wheels-these can weigh over 200,000 pounds-----so anyting they walk over is going to be crushed and shredded by the toothed wheels and then behindeach wheel is a very large "cleaner bar" to clean stuff that gets wrapped in the whhels-then the stuff gets compacted a few tmes as the compactor spreads the debris with the blade-then crushed under the wheels.The compactor often runs over the stuff a few passes.
And-a thought on recharging----best to NOT leave the charger plugged in and the device left on it-this can shorten the life of the battery.Unplug the device from the charger and the charger from the wall when not uins it to actually charge the battery.I do this with all of my cordless machines-and no problems.
Stuff going to the landfill-its going to get a "pressing" journey to there-the trash truck compactor-these can compress over 1000lbs into only one cubic yard!The landfill compactor is a massive machine with an oversized dozer type blade and lugged steel wheels-these can weigh over 200,000 pounds-----so anyting they walk over is going to be crushed and shredded by the toothed wheels and then behindeach wheel is a very large "cleaner bar" to clean stuff that gets wrapped in the whhels-then the stuff gets compacted a few tmes as the compactor spreads the debris with the blade-then crushed under the wheels.The compactor often runs over the stuff a few passes.
And-a thought on recharging----best to NOT leave the charger plugged in and the device left on it-this can shorten the life of the battery.Unplug the device from the charger and the charger from the wall when not uins it to actually charge the battery.I do this with all of my cordless machines-and no problems.
vacfan1982
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But have you actually used the V10?
As I said in a previous post you can recycle bags.
Look at all the bags and disposable filter s on a bagged cleaner that go to.landfill quite significant over a nation.
I'm getting a V10 next week. Can't wait to try it our. The reviews are very positive
As I said in a previous post you can recycle bags.
Look at all the bags and disposable filter s on a bagged cleaner that go to.landfill quite significant over a nation.
I'm getting a V10 next week. Can't wait to try it our. The reviews are very positive
vacfan1982
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Recycle batteries I meant to say
rolls_rapide
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Cordless
I'm not convinced at all.
The V10 run times are spin-doctored (as usual). Real-world use reveals a much lesser run time.
Batteries can and do wear out. Dyson should have offered the option of swap-over batteries.
Trigger-action switches are no good for arthritic hands. A rocker switch would have been better - but a rocker switch can be left 'on' and thus reveal the true battery life of the machine, i.e. not long at all.
And then there's the design... Uprights can be locked in the upright position whilst you alter the furniture, answer the door, etc. This thing has to be propped up against something, or laid flat on some surface. Woolly thinking on Dyson's part.
If this new super-duper motor is oh-so-wonderful, why the bloody hell can't they stick it in a super-lightweight, corded upright machine, which doesn't fall over?
Finally, the price... £400 - £500? Pffft! No chance!
I'm not convinced at all.
The V10 run times are spin-doctored (as usual). Real-world use reveals a much lesser run time.
Batteries can and do wear out. Dyson should have offered the option of swap-over batteries.
Trigger-action switches are no good for arthritic hands. A rocker switch would have been better - but a rocker switch can be left 'on' and thus reveal the true battery life of the machine, i.e. not long at all.
And then there's the design... Uprights can be locked in the upright position whilst you alter the furniture, answer the door, etc. This thing has to be propped up against something, or laid flat on some surface. Woolly thinking on Dyson's part.
If this new super-duper motor is oh-so-wonderful, why the bloody hell can't they stick it in a super-lightweight, corded upright machine, which doesn't fall over?
Finally, the price... £400 - £500? Pffft! No chance!
vacfan1982
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I agree they should make it possible to swap the battery over and it is definitely overpriced but still I think it's a great vac!The reviews so far are very positive.
electromatik
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I realize the cordless thing is seen by many as an advancement. But I can't help think that it isn't really. I mean how much of an improvement is it to go from plugging in a vacuum when you need it and having it work every time (as long as the outlet and electricity is working) to having to charge/buy/replace a battery in addition to possibly having it run down before you are finished?
Seems to me sometimes the trade-off isn't worth it... But maybe I'm wrong.
Seems to me sometimes the trade-off isn't worth it... But maybe I'm wrong.
I think it would be great if cordless Dysons also worked while plugged in.
I use my DC34 to vacuum my car. Sometimes, it runs out of battery before I am finished. It would be great if I could simply plug it into the charger and keep going.
I use my DC34 to vacuum my car. Sometimes, it runs out of battery before I am finished. It would be great if I could simply plug it into the charger and keep going.
madaboutsebo
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Intrigued by the battery onboard I decided to email Dyson UK to ask a few questions about the battery.
You can remove the battery by removing the 2 screws I was told. They will be selling the batteries in the near future but not available at present as the machine has just launched! So you could buy additional if needed or to replace the original one! I was told the battery is recyclable too!
You can remove the battery by removing the 2 screws I was told. They will be selling the batteries in the near future but not available at present as the machine has just launched! So you could buy additional if needed or to replace the original one! I was told the battery is recyclable too!
vacfan1982
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Yes you could get replacement battery pack for the V6 and V8 but I think he meant it would be good if you could just pop one battery into the cleaner while charging another. Effectively doubling the cleaning time.
Yes batteries are recyclable.
Yes batteries are recyclable.
madaboutsebo
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Sorry, it get what you mean. Yes that would be good idea! The battery should be easy to take out without the need for a screw driver to remove 2 screws!
They should mention the batteries are recyclable!
They should mention the batteries are recyclable!
sensotronic
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Dyson won't supply the batteries directly as they claim they have to be fitted by an engineer, but they may be available from other sources.
honestjoe68
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Just my two cents worth of opinions I’ll add to the Dyson V10 discussion...
My Hoover REACT cordless (priced at $199 vs $500 to $700 for Dyson) has several features I wish Dyson had included in the V10 design:
1) Removable, Easily Replaceable Battery Pack.. you also could have Two batteries for extended use. I was able to buy (extremely expensive though) an extra Battery for My Dyson DC44! No tools, it just changed out with the push of a button, like today’s best cordless Drills!
2) Bluetooth Phone App to monitor Filters and adjust the Vacuum Settings to the users preferences. Basically more than a flashing “idiot light” I NEED control and information! Lol
3) Bright LED Lights on the Floor Brushroll! A HUGE peeve of mine with ALL Dysons!
4) Lower Prices on accessories and minor replacement parts! Dyson parts are WAY too expensive!
5) Function and Indicator lights and a Detailed Battery life indicator, more than three tiny blue lights! (If the V10 gives at least 25% increments, then ok but I’m not sure)
6) Saved my biggest gripe for last! lol Please don’t all light torches and chase me for this.. on my Hoover REACT.. if you pull the on/off Trigger and hold, it’s just like all Dyson Cordless... BUT Hoover listens to customer requests and if you pull the trigger twice, the vacuum STAYS ON! Lol it’s Not that difficult Dyson. But the Hoover (yes, I understand it doesn’t clean as well as a V6 or V8.. but the battery lasts Much longer on the Hoover, so this is why Hoover can make the constantly On feature)
Lastly, things that Hoover doesn’t necessarily do but features I wanted on this Dyson:
As high end and aesthetically pleasing as they make Dyson products.. WHY don’t they include a “Free Standing Charging Center! Something sleek with storage for all the accessory tools! Or in not a Stand, at least a caddy for all the accessories and attachment tools? Sure you can buy a Dyson hanging tool storage bag with pockets or the Black Dyson bag with no pockets for an outrageous price.. but you sell a fully loaded Absolute, for example with like ten attachments but no where to store them.. Kirby’s nice caddy comes to mind.
I wanted the V10 immediately but I still do NOT see enough changes and improvements to warrant $700 bucks, when I’m still extremely happy with the V8 Dyson so kindly gave me. I’m saving my Money for the Oreck Pod Cordless because I HATE emptying any bagless vacuum.. ANY bagless.. Hate it! Yuck Lol. Thanks guys, love all your points and facts and opinions.. it helps me make better purchasing decisions.
My Hoover REACT cordless (priced at $199 vs $500 to $700 for Dyson) has several features I wish Dyson had included in the V10 design:
1) Removable, Easily Replaceable Battery Pack.. you also could have Two batteries for extended use. I was able to buy (extremely expensive though) an extra Battery for My Dyson DC44! No tools, it just changed out with the push of a button, like today’s best cordless Drills!
2) Bluetooth Phone App to monitor Filters and adjust the Vacuum Settings to the users preferences. Basically more than a flashing “idiot light” I NEED control and information! Lol
3) Bright LED Lights on the Floor Brushroll! A HUGE peeve of mine with ALL Dysons!
4) Lower Prices on accessories and minor replacement parts! Dyson parts are WAY too expensive!
5) Function and Indicator lights and a Detailed Battery life indicator, more than three tiny blue lights! (If the V10 gives at least 25% increments, then ok but I’m not sure)
6) Saved my biggest gripe for last! lol Please don’t all light torches and chase me for this.. on my Hoover REACT.. if you pull the on/off Trigger and hold, it’s just like all Dyson Cordless... BUT Hoover listens to customer requests and if you pull the trigger twice, the vacuum STAYS ON! Lol it’s Not that difficult Dyson. But the Hoover (yes, I understand it doesn’t clean as well as a V6 or V8.. but the battery lasts Much longer on the Hoover, so this is why Hoover can make the constantly On feature)
Lastly, things that Hoover doesn’t necessarily do but features I wanted on this Dyson:
As high end and aesthetically pleasing as they make Dyson products.. WHY don’t they include a “Free Standing Charging Center! Something sleek with storage for all the accessory tools! Or in not a Stand, at least a caddy for all the accessories and attachment tools? Sure you can buy a Dyson hanging tool storage bag with pockets or the Black Dyson bag with no pockets for an outrageous price.. but you sell a fully loaded Absolute, for example with like ten attachments but no where to store them.. Kirby’s nice caddy comes to mind.
I wanted the V10 immediately but I still do NOT see enough changes and improvements to warrant $700 bucks, when I’m still extremely happy with the V8 Dyson so kindly gave me. I’m saving my Money for the Oreck Pod Cordless because I HATE emptying any bagless vacuum.. ANY bagless.. Hate it! Yuck Lol. Thanks guys, love all your points and facts and opinions.. it helps me make better purchasing decisions.
madaboutsebo
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Be interesting if they change that approach with the V10 regarding sourcing new batteries. The answer I got that you would be able to purchase batteries in th3 future fir the machine. We will have to see if this is the case as it doesn’t seem that on current models.
luxkid1980
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@honestjoe68
I agree with you, I'm saving my money for the Oreck Pod as well due to it having a "pod" to capture the dirt/debris. Our house is not that big and it will be handy for quick cleaning. I will continue to use my corded bagged models for weekly or so cleanings.
The Dyson V10 seems uninteresting and the price is too high. I cannot see the it, or any other stick vacuum being a suitable replacement for a corded and bagged vacuum. Folks that have larger houses won't be able to vacuum the entire house on a single charge. No one is going to want to wait for the vacuum to recharge so they can finish vacuuming (if they can't vacuum everything in the initial 30 minutes or so). As HonestJoe68 said, the vacuum really needs to come with TWO batteries that easy to replace so the consumer can have another battery ready to go when the first one is exhausted. Consumers are not going to want to have to get the screwdriver out to replace a battery.
I personally do not find a corded vacuum inconvenient to use. Maybe some folks do. So what if I have to change outlets a couple times. It takes only seconds to that and you always have power.
I agree with you, I'm saving my money for the Oreck Pod as well due to it having a "pod" to capture the dirt/debris. Our house is not that big and it will be handy for quick cleaning. I will continue to use my corded bagged models for weekly or so cleanings.
The Dyson V10 seems uninteresting and the price is too high. I cannot see the it, or any other stick vacuum being a suitable replacement for a corded and bagged vacuum. Folks that have larger houses won't be able to vacuum the entire house on a single charge. No one is going to want to wait for the vacuum to recharge so they can finish vacuuming (if they can't vacuum everything in the initial 30 minutes or so). As HonestJoe68 said, the vacuum really needs to come with TWO batteries that easy to replace so the consumer can have another battery ready to go when the first one is exhausted. Consumers are not going to want to have to get the screwdriver out to replace a battery.
I personally do not find a corded vacuum inconvenient to use. Maybe some folks do. So what if I have to change outlets a couple times. It takes only seconds to that and you always have power.
vacfan1982
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Steve Madabouthoovers did a video on YouTube today using his V8. In 7 minutes he did 2 rooms downstairs his stairs and an upstairs bedroom 
So 25 mins should be more than sufficient for most people
http://https//youtu.be/J7a8QVVKsWU
So 25 mins should be more than sufficient for most people
http://https//youtu.be/J7a8QVVKsWU
luxkid1980
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Looks like a fairly light cleaning of floor surfaces only (and stairs). He didn't do the baseboards, ceiling corners, furniture, etc. in those 7 minutes 
Maybe the remaining battery time would allow for that.
Maybe the remaining battery time would allow for that.
vacfan1982
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I'm not going to argue about it. The majority of people on here will never have anything positive to say about Dyson even though they have designed a very good product that millions of people are going to love.
But that's fair enough everyone is entitled to their opinion
But that's fair enough everyone is entitled to their opinion
luxkid1980
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No arguing here, just friendly discussion I think most collectors in general are always going to be more biased about certain branded products. For me, that spills over into other things like cars. Personally, I would likely never buy a foreign car like a Honda or Hyundai, no matter what they developed. I'm just in general more loyal to our domestic brands.
I think most collectors in general are always going to be more biased about certain branded products. For me, that spills over into other things like cars. Personally, I would likely never buy a foreign car like a Honda or Hyundai, no matter what they developed. I'm just in general more loyal to our domestic brands.
vacfan1982
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That's fair enough.I like a wide range of brands. If the product is good I don't care who makes it 
