Somewhere in my collection have one of those Red Royals-Like these machines-too bad they still aren't being built-one of the best canisters out there-long live the Royal Torpedo vacuum!Remember when I unpacked mine-bought from Manassas vacuums.They were a Royal dealer.
NIB Royal Power Team
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fantomfan57
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What I would like is
and I notice the new one has, the original halo "bumper".
I now have 3 Royals, the burgundy, light blue Power Tank and the dark blue version.
The last one is without the PN, but I procured a black FQ (same design)that will be modified to work. I also have some front parts of the handle that came broken away. Still works find, just a cosmetic issue. I will eventually find a replacement.
and I notice the new one has, the original halo "bumper".
I now have 3 Royals, the burgundy, light blue Power Tank and the dark blue version.
The last one is without the PN, but I procured a black FQ (same design)that will be modified to work. I also have some front parts of the handle that came broken away. Still works find, just a cosmetic issue. I will eventually find a replacement.
hygiene903
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Power Tank
We have a blue one, model 408 Power Tank. Didn't have the power nozzle with it when my son bought it, so I picked this one up later. It may or may not be the right one, but it works great. And apparently the cord was replaced before we got it, I'm pretty sure it should be blue. Definitely a great, powerful machine. And congrats to Tom in getting one NIB!
Jeff
We have a blue one, model 408 Power Tank. Didn't have the power nozzle with it when my son bought it, so I picked this one up later. It may or may not be the right one, but it works great. And apparently the cord was replaced before we got it, I'm pretty sure it should be blue. Definitely a great, powerful machine. And congrats to Tom in getting one NIB!
Jeff
toddk13
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Royal vs Airway
Hi Tom. Does this Royal give your signature Airway a run for it's money as far as power / suction?
Hi Tom. Does this Royal give your signature Airway a run for it's money as far as power / suction?
dartman
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I just replaced the pigtail on my 4650 with a close enough one to get my 4650 running again. I love that thing, awesome suction and really brings up the nap on the carpet. I think it has a similar motor and the same power head. I also have a blue 413 power tank and just got a free 5700 upright that works fine. I have to say that I think the canister is about equal to the upright and does as good or better at grooming the carpet. Upright is nice because it's self contained and simple yet very powerful but the canister is right there and doesn't get messed up with something getting wound into the brush or impeller. I'm not a huge collector but I like high quality well built machines and these things got me since I got my 413 about 90 and realized what a great vacuum it was so I kept fixing it and kept my eyes open for newer better versions. I joined here when I found my 4650 dirt cheap and had to find a good powered hose.
I think I've only seen one 4700 since I started watching Craigslist here about 12.
I think I've only seen one 4700 since I started watching Craigslist here about 12.
dysonman1
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It's a model 4750 from 1999.
It's hard to believe that this machine is already nearly 20 years old. To me this still qualifies as a modern machine!
dysonman1
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This is why I cannot have nice things
My 100 pound border collie, versus the royal power tank.
My 100 pound border collie, versus the royal power tank.
fantomfan57
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Since my last post 3/24/18
I bought the correct PN and wand with cord. It was even the right color blue.
All I need is a replacement left side of the handle and it is restored.
I will save the FQ PN for later.
I bought the correct PN and wand with cord. It was even the right color blue.
All I need is a replacement left side of the handle and it is restored.
I will save the FQ PN for later.
ultralux88
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I bought my first PowerTank from Marty Rocha back in 2005, the LA convention! Its the light blue one with the HMI P/N and the FQ style cuffed hose end and curved upper wand. I love that machine! I was so excited to finally have one of those, and it still brings much joy to use, but there's something to be said about these later models. I got, from Alex Braun, a nice red one like this, but a little older with the speed control on the hose handle. Also a true joy to use, and a much more aggressive carpet experience.
apt1961apt
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Manual and/or parts list for Royal 4700 Power Team canister
My dad picked up one of these canister vacuums at a thrift store for $5. I'm looking for parts information because his unit does not have the wand and power nozzle, and he wants me to find these parts. I'd love to get a copy of a manual so that I can see part numbers and how-to information.
On that note, I will make a separate posting about this next topic, but I'm trying to figure out if parts from a Royal 4250 canister will fit my dad's 4700 canister. I have come across a model 4250 that looks just like the 4700 canister, but Dirt Devil (who currently owns Royal) indicates the parts are not switchable...but they did not offer part numbers. I'll make a separate posting related to 4700 vs 4250, because the subject drift title may catch your attention.
My dad picked up one of these canister vacuums at a thrift store for $5. I'm looking for parts information because his unit does not have the wand and power nozzle, and he wants me to find these parts. I'd love to get a copy of a manual so that I can see part numbers and how-to information.
On that note, I will make a separate posting about this next topic, but I'm trying to figure out if parts from a Royal 4250 canister will fit my dad's 4700 canister. I have come across a model 4250 that looks just like the 4700 canister, but Dirt Devil (who currently owns Royal) indicates the parts are not switchable...but they did not offer part numbers. I'll make a separate posting related to 4700 vs 4250, because the subject drift title may catch your attention.
apt1961apt
New member
Can you switch parts between Royal 4700 and Royal 4250?
I'm trying to figure out if parts from a Royal 4250 canister vacuum will fit my dad's 4700 canister. I have come across a model 4250 that looks just like the 4700 canister, but Dirt Devil (who currently owns Royal) indicates the parts are not switchable...but they did not offer part numbers.
If you know, and/or if you have parts list for the 4250 and/or the 4700, then I will be grateful to obtain this.
I'm trying to figure out if parts from a Royal 4250 canister vacuum will fit my dad's 4700 canister. I have come across a model 4250 that looks just like the 4700 canister, but Dirt Devil (who currently owns Royal) indicates the parts are not switchable...but they did not offer part numbers.
If you know, and/or if you have parts list for the 4250 and/or the 4700, then I will be grateful to obtain this.
human
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I've always liked the design of those machines, even though I've never seen one in the flesh. I especially like the 'saddlebag' onboard tool storage. Very functional. If I didn't already have six Electrolux canisters, I might put one on my want list. There's a blue one on eBay right now that's priced fairly reasonably except that it's missing the hose, wand and power nozzle, making it sort of useless.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Royal-Pony...235030?hash=item3b4fa440d6:g:3FcAAOSw8vtfeht7
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Royal-Pony...235030?hash=item3b4fa440d6:g:3FcAAOSw8vtfeht7
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tylerhawkins84
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One of my dream machines!
My dream vacuum would be to find a NOS Royal 4700 or 4750 still in the box. The last 4600 or 4650 with the Panasonic power nozzle would be neat to. I did find a NOS 4600 made in 1993 with the Filter Queen power nozzle bought on eBay about 3 years ago for $150 and re-sold for $900! I also bought and re-sold a NOS 4150 at a pretty decent profit but my dream machines still evade me. I have a 4700 my grandma gave me over 11 years ago that she bought new in Jan. of 2000. She gave me the original user manual and she even kept the sales receipt that was for around $550 I believe. I love it and have restored it to like new condition with many NOS parts. I have also stockpiled a number of NOS parts for it and probably have over 100 bags as I think Royal quit producing them but Envirovac still makes them but I prefer the Royal bags. It's unfortunate there are pretty much no parts available now but they are pretty robust so break downs are seldom.
My dream vacuum would be to find a NOS Royal 4700 or 4750 still in the box. The last 4600 or 4650 with the Panasonic power nozzle would be neat to. I did find a NOS 4600 made in 1993 with the Filter Queen power nozzle bought on eBay about 3 years ago for $150 and re-sold for $900! I also bought and re-sold a NOS 4150 at a pretty decent profit but my dream machines still evade me. I have a 4700 my grandma gave me over 11 years ago that she bought new in Jan. of 2000. She gave me the original user manual and she even kept the sales receipt that was for around $550 I believe. I love it and have restored it to like new condition with many NOS parts. I have also stockpiled a number of NOS parts for it and probably have over 100 bags as I think Royal quit producing them but Envirovac still makes them but I prefer the Royal bags. It's unfortunate there are pretty much no parts available now but they are pretty robust so break downs are seldom.
regularrett69
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Love these
I do come and admire this post every once in a while, I've gained a love for these. My dream ones are a 4600, or a 4650 because I like the speed control and switch on the handle rather than the speed control on the tank like the 4700. I've seen the dealer demonstration for one of these, and it really is very impressive. I'll be on the lookout for a 4600 preferably from 1997 (on a budget). I'm just weary on finding one with a good motor, I've heard too many bad stories on motor work with these.
Regards, Garrett
I do come and admire this post every once in a while, I've gained a love for these. My dream ones are a 4600, or a 4650 because I like the speed control and switch on the handle rather than the speed control on the tank like the 4700. I've seen the dealer demonstration for one of these, and it really is very impressive. I'll be on the lookout for a 4600 preferably from 1997 (on a budget). I'm just weary on finding one with a good motor, I've heard too many bad stories on motor work with these.
Regards, Garrett
tylerhawkins84
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They are pretty reliable in my experience
Garrett, I think by now if the vacuum is still going strong after over 20 years you should be good. I have bought and refurbished probably about a dozen of these now and they all for the most part have run very well except for maybe a noisy bearing on one or two. The motor change isn't usually terrible (I did have one 4650 that put up a horrible fight) if you have to do it. On a NOS unit you could be taking a chance but I think probably a pretty small percentage of these had premature motor failures. These tanks have been out of production for almost 20 years now and it is not uncommon to see working units on eBay pretty frequently. The weakest link on these tanks IMO was the plug that connects the upper wand to the handle. These plugs frequently loose continuity causing the connection to arc and melt. If you catch it before to much damage is done you can often save them by cutting a small groove in the handle plug just behind the existing one. This pushes the male and female connections just a little closer and will usually compensate for the loss of connection caused from years of wear.
Garrett, I think by now if the vacuum is still going strong after over 20 years you should be good. I have bought and refurbished probably about a dozen of these now and they all for the most part have run very well except for maybe a noisy bearing on one or two. The motor change isn't usually terrible (I did have one 4650 that put up a horrible fight) if you have to do it. On a NOS unit you could be taking a chance but I think probably a pretty small percentage of these had premature motor failures. These tanks have been out of production for almost 20 years now and it is not uncommon to see working units on eBay pretty frequently. The weakest link on these tanks IMO was the plug that connects the upper wand to the handle. These plugs frequently loose continuity causing the connection to arc and melt. If you catch it before to much damage is done you can often save them by cutting a small groove in the handle plug just behind the existing one. This pushes the male and female connections just a little closer and will usually compensate for the loss of connection caused from years of wear.
