New Hoover Purepower Intelli-Sense cylinder

[ozhoover]

Ok so here's the new European TOL Purepower TPP2340 suction model this one has what's called Intelli-Sense. Nothing new we have all seen feature before called lots of different names, Autosence, Dirt Alert, ect ect....

Its 2300W and for a made in PRC the build quality is really good, it's very quite too...

 

[ozhoover]

Intelli-Sense up close

ready for action

 

[ozhoover]

The carpet is clean

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[ozhoover]

Not clean enough yet

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[sebo_fan]

I saw this recently on Hoover Europe's channel and was really impressed ! I love the look of this vacuum.
However the "power sense" is nothing new - my old Turbopower 2 Autosense from the 1990's had this feature, a 3 traffic light panel on the front. You could adjust it manually if you didn't agree with the vacuum at the time, thus giving you a three selection speed control but when I think back to it, the highest and the middle suction didn't give much of a difference, just noisier.

 

[jmurray01]

Firstly - That cleaner looks great!

Secondly, in my experience, there is quite a difference between the low and high Autosense levels in the Turbopower range, which you can see if you put your hand up to the end of the hose on the lowest level, vacuum up some dirt to rev the motor up, then put your hand over the end of the hose again. You should notice a considerable difference in suction - At least I do anyway...

The thing I don't agree with about that new Purepower, is the fact it says "Clean" and "Not Clean". Well, just because there isn't enough dirt to activate the higher wattage, it doesn't mean the carpet is clean! There could very well still little pieces of dirt on the carpet which the system won't realise.

If I stopped vacuuming when my Turbopower stayed on the lowest wattage, my carpets would still be dirty!

 

[jmurray01]

Ah sorry - I misunderstood what you said! Still though, I notice an increase in suction from the low, high, and Turbo levels, but maybe I just notice things more.

 

[sebo_fan]

Or may be you don't - because as far as I'm concerned, there was little difference between the medium and turbo setting on the TP2/3 series. Same with the Turbopower dirty fan models - not much difference between the 1 and 2 settings, unless of course you had a fresh new bag, untainted and unclogged.

 

[twocvbloke]

2300 Watts??? That's more than what my tumble dryer uses!!!! :S

 

[turbomaster1984]

Tumbledryer?

I think not lol. 2.3kw Heater maybe but then still cost in the 300w or more motor. Maybe even a pump if its condensor or other fan etc and you maye be in at around 2.8/2.9kw

 

[jmurray01]

Whoa 2300 Watts sure is a lot!

 

[twocvbloke]

"I think not lol."

I think so, it's a Beko computerised POS, and my wattmeter registers about 1.4 Kilowatts when it's running (give or take a few if the TV's on and laptops are running or whatever), so whichever way you look at it, that vac uses more power than a tumble dryer... :S

Why can't they just use proper, efficient, 2-stage motors? Like the 1000 Watt one I put into my Tristar, that thing will drag rugs across the floor with the rug nozzle fitted, and uses less electrical power, turning it into greater suction & airflow power than most modern cylinders, AND doesn't scream so loud that my ears feel like they're going to burst and start bleeding as with many high-wattage vacuums manufacturers spout out these days...

As for the Intelli-sense feature, my Tristar, and heck my miele too, have those features, they're called my Eyes and Ears, if I don't see dirt on the carpet or hear it going up the tubes, it's clean, can't beat human intelligence...

 

[turbomaster1984]

Interested to know what model Beko it is?

if its drying cotton loads on hi heat and only using 1400 watts then i might consider replacing my energy guzzling "Normal" tumble dryer that draws 2800W.

 

[vintagerepairer]

The motor wattages are getting to the stupid stage now. It's just the quickest and easiest way of attempting to get some half decent suction power from a bagless cleaner which clogs. Panasonic are one brand where they are fitting lower wattage motors and claiming to be X amount more efficient. I was going to say it will have to stop at some point, but when? Then I realised they can't go over 3kw. So probably then.

 

[twocvbloke]

"Interested to know what model Beko it is?"

As far as I know, the Pieceocrapomatic, the computer's unreliable, doesn't put out enough heat, and has a really rubbish sensor-drying thing which senses nothing, so shuts off too early if you have a slightly undersized or oversized load, so you have to start it again to dry the damp clothes...

I hate it, I'd rather have my old 2 Kilowatt White Knight compact dryer, with a clockwork timer and two settings, High and Low, nothing to go wrong and very simple to maintain...

If you really want one after that, it's one of these (only ours has a few dents where my boots have gotten up close and personal with it!!):



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220940284712

 

[turbomaster1984]

ok

Oh right,

Yes its one that draws around 2800watts normally so yes the vac does not pull as much as the dryer.

I would suggest if its not drying cotton very well you dont use the low heat button which makes the heater run cooler thus registering around 1400W.

 

[twocvbloke]

There is no low heat button, all you have is a knob to select a programme (all of which are useless even the 60 minute programme never lasts 60 minutes), a start-stop button, and an "Alarm Cancel" button, it's all to do with it's sensor drying detecting what it needs to do, and it fails at doing so...

And as for a 2.8KW dryer rating, I have seen vacs with that rating, and higher, so, yeah, I'll stick with my 1KW Tristar...

(and also, stick with your dryer, more watts means more heat dry dry in less time, because contrary to belief, less watts means slower drying times and more energy wasted turning the drum, not very efficient!!!)

 

[turbomaster1984]

And as for a 2.8KW dryer rating, I have seen vacs with that

but we were talking about this Hoover? the Purepower one? didnt see any mention of anything else???

I would suggest you have Beko out to the dryer anyway and have them look at it, seems like you got a lemon there.

Dont know how you would explain the boot marks though. They may make your warranty null and void for the abuse. Always better to call out the enginner if its not right as tumble dryers dont feel pain or fear and thus dont work any better when kicked.

 

[jmurray01]

You're right Benny, it won't be long (in fact I think it'll be within this year!) before some Vacuum Cleaner brand (probably HOOVER) brings out a cleaner with a 3000W motor.

Absolutely ridiculous!

The reason for all the massive motors these days is because none of the brands can be bothered to give a cleaner good design so it doesn't need so much power to perform well, so they just design them poorly and give them the biggest motor possible to try and get good suction.

My 500 watt 1982 Electrolux 502S has plenty suction, and unless you turn the suction selector down to "MIN", it'll suck the door mat right into the brush roll!

Same with my 400 watt 1977 HOOVER Ranger for that matter, only you can't turn the suction down on that so I have to raise the height.

So let me get this straight - 500 watts was more than enough to keep carpets clean back in the 80's, so why isn't it now ? I can't see why not, as I still use my Electrolux 3-4 times a week and have never been disappointed with the suction, nor seen any dirt left behind after one "sweep".

All in all, Vacuum Cleaner manufacturers are getting lazy and trying to make good cleaners with less work.

It is like back in the 50's and 60's where cars had V8's which barely put out 150BHP, where as there are I4 engines these days which with the right design can put out OVER 150BHP!

I think Vacuum Cleaner manufacturers should look back at automotive history, and see that they can make smaller motors with the same, or more suction than larger ones.

That's my Two Pence!