New For 2017 - Numatic Henry Cordless HVB160-12

[sebo4me]

Haha I enjoyed it

I think that Volt PN would work great with the Henry it would increase the performance on carpets significantly. I'm not a fan of turbo brushes.

Why is the cordless Henry 3 times the price of the mains powered one? Is it that much more expensive to manufacture?

 

[alexhoovers94]

I think it is more expensive because of what it is, cordless vacuums are expensive! The casing has been redesigned to allow the battery to seat in the top, the motor for the cordless Henry has also been redesigned, it is smaller and not the standard type...Plus the lithium ion batteries, which you get two and give you 60 minutes cleaning time, between both!

Changes in design and new products are always expensive at first...Has to pay someones wages and pay for new mouldings/technology, etc.

They will probably come down in price, but they only came out in February, so they are atill very new! If they do reduce the price, Numatic will probably have a battery pack sacrificed.

People always want "out for nout"!

 

[eurekaprince]

This thread has reminded me that the time has come for Miele to try again to design a battery-powered power nozzle for canisters. I don't mean a large upright attachment like the Volt. I mean a battery operated carpet nozzle included with a deluxe C3 canister that will eliminate the need for bulky electrified wands and hoses. Hopefully the lithium technology has advanced to the point that such a power nozzle could be used for a good hour in a large home without needing a recharge. Or at least provide a set of two or three battery packs (charging separately in its own charging base) that can provide "ready-to-go" back-up power for large carpet cleaning jobs. Would certainly clean better than air-driven turbo nozzles.

 

[n0oxy]

turbo nozzles

I'm also not a fan of turbo nozzles for several reasons. First, the sound is annoying, like a dentist drill on steroids, in many cases the turbo brush is louder than the vacuum motor itself. Second, the turbo brush takes cleaning power to spin the turbine, so the cleaning performance of the vacuum will be decreased. Finally, everything vacuumed up goes through the turbine, clogs are almost guaranteed to happen. Electric nozzles don't have any of these issues, and in the case of the volt nozzle, it actually adds more airflow to what the vacuum already has. Speaking of Miele, I have tried the volt with the Miele C1 olympus, works great. Brian, if you're looking for a power nozzle for your C3, you might consider the volt nozzle, I think you said in another post you use an upright for your carpets, with the volt nozzle, your Miele vacuum would clean your carpets easily.
Mike

 

[eurekaprince]

Thanks for that Mike! I still prefer using a separate upright vac to finish off a room being cleaned. I prefer to back out of a room starting from the area farthest from the door and uprights are better suited for that.

I just think that with the improvement in battery technology and the proliferation of more powerful cordless vacs and robot vacs, it's time to revolutionize the way power nozzle canisters provide power to the brush roll motors in their deep cleaning carpet nozzles. And new fancy lithium batteries would really do the trick.

 

[alexhoovers94]

Here is a close up of the spec list from Numatics latest brochure, you can see the suction difference recorded in water lift on the chart, for both the standard Henry and Henry Cordless.

 

[alexhoovers94]

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[sebo4me]

So the mains Henry has 90 inches of water lift and the cordless has 47.

I wonder what the airflow is at the end of the hose.

Does the cordless have enough to spin a turbo brush?

 

[alexhoovers94]

It works very well with a mini turbotool, it doesn't work so well with a full size one, specifically the Numatic Airobrush, the brushes go round but not very fast.