New 2014 Vax Air total home - I am speechless

[sebo_fan]

Oli - you are obviously very impressed with the Vax, but you are totally missing the point I am making.

The Vax has NLOS so it doesn't surprise me in the least that the pick up is going to be better than ANY Bagged vacuum let alone the Felix. However having too much suction can never be that good for a carpet - and in the defence of the Felix, at least you can adjust the power AND the height adjustment of the brush roller.

 

[super-sweeper]

It's a known fact, Samsung won awards for ugliest vacuum, AND ugliest Dyson knock-of of 2014! 

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

Well be that as it may, the combination of agitation and suction power this vax has is very good for all types of carpeting, and I say that because I have jsut about all types of carpeting, low piled, thick pile, dense and shaggy rugs and this does brilliant on all of them, and what it picks up from them is very good, so I can hardly say that having this much pulling power is a bad thing.

However, that is something I would critisize about this vac, is that is needs a way of adjusting the power as on lightwiehgt bathroom matts for example, it sticks so much it start to swallow them up. I have mastered a way of cleaning them, by havign the head half on and half off the matts, hopefully this is something vax can address.

 

[sebo_fan]

IMHO the Mach Air Reach is the best bagless upright I have tried so far. It has a soft brush roll so its a winner in my eyes but it is a brute to take off hard floors or whenever the brush roll is turned off. Doesn't sound like Vax have learnt their lesson here.

A small air valve could have been applied to the acrylic floor head to let out some suction air, so that it doesn't stick to hard floors or a vent somewhere at least for air to be a bit less when dealing with hard floors.

 

[mieles5380leo]

Hoover?

The 2014 Vax Air looks like a Hoover wind tunnel AIR. Which brand copied who?

 

[suckolux]

Hoover copied Vax on that one

 

[ultraperformer]

Already down to £179.99, hope the TOL silence simular gets slashed in price as that machine looks excellent!

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

Vax copied no one. I trust that you are awear Hoover US and VAX are both owned by Hong Kongs TTI who design and manufacture a lot of other vacuum cleaners for various manufactures, and this design is an original Vax design. Indeed on the box it says "designed in the UK" so it is possible Hoover US adopted this design and used it on their models.

 

[sptyks]

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"The 2014 Vax Air looks like a Hoover wind tunnel AIR. Which brand copied who?"


 


Mieles5380Leo: In case you didn't already know, Vax and Hoover USA are both owned by the same company: TTI Floor Care Products LLC. So no one copied the other unless you wanted to say: TTI copied itself.


 


So indeed, the Vax Air and the Hoover Windtunnel Air are basically the same machine except for minor differences such as color.

 

[sebo_fan]

The original Vax Mach Air however has a slightly different arrangement - especially with the hose at the rear. This newer model matches Hoover's original Windtunnel Air with the hose stretched around the front at the left hand side - a bit like the old Vax Swift/Dirt Devil U.S models.

 

[mieles5380leo]

Neat fact, sptyks.

I've never known about Vax products before, so I've never known this, the name rings a bell, but, I can't put my finger on it though. Learn something new every day don't ya!

 

[parwaz786]

There are so many bad reviews online because this new Vax is too powerful for them to push

 

[sebo_fan]

Where are those bad reviews you speak of?? At Argos there only seems to be a couple of bad ones, but then the next one is totaly conflicting.

And are those rugs in the first comment/review fixed on the floor or portable? No upright can do them unless its super soft bristles and low suction. Otherwise they get sucked up into the mouth of the upright.

 

[sebo_fan]

Actually it was Vax who set the design blueprint of the original before Hoover in the U.S got their Windtunnel Air model.

 

[parwaz786]

Amazon has lots of them rated at 1 star, 2 and 3 etc. Those reviews make me want this more, lol. Not sure whether to get this in purple for £99 off Vax on Amazon, or a Dyson DC41 mk2

 

[sebo_fan]

eh? Amazon only seems to list 4 reviews out of 26 that get 2stars. I think you're being unfair.

 

[parwaz786]

No I mean in total, the negative reviews from different sites such as Argos, Amazon, etc makes quite a lot of people saying the vacuum is hard to push. So they have it a negative review

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

It is difficult to push and pull across carpets and sticks to hardfloors, but it is a very effective vacuum and I have loved using it. The plastics used on the whole feel durable, some feel a bit brittle and the hose is stupidly short and very poorly placed, the handle doesn't go up high enough for me either, but this is now a vacuum you can buy at places like Tesco, Argos and amazon for around £100 so it is still excellent value.

 

[floor-a-matic]

Hoover & Vax need to make their own designs & quit copying from one another or from someone else. It dont matter if Vax UK & Hoover USA are owned by TTI; this "copycat" stuff needs to end PERIOD! Just because one company owns many is NO EXCUSE to copy the other company's designs! I think today's engineers are too lazy nowadays.

That Vax looks retarded[this post was last edited: 12/28/2014-17:30]

 

[turbo500]

It's not "copying", they're exactly the same machines made by exactly the same company in exactly the same factory. TTI owns the Vax name in the Europe and the Hoover name in the US, but they don't own the Hoover name in Europe. If they did, I would expect that all their machines would be branded one or the other.


 


 

 

[parwaz786]

I doubt the design of the Mach sir range etc are owned by TTI as these are not budget machines. These are their best ones ATM.

 

[sebo_fan]

Well, following on from another discussion about another brand name on another forum... I remember the Tchibo company from Germany, who first had a mail order catalogue where you could buy rebranded household appliances and a few vacuums under the "TCM" brand name and also "Typhoon."

When the net came along, the company in the UK had already stopped selling appliances and went onto selling coffee and drinks alone on their UK website. However, Tchibo in other countries still sell unbranded vacuums and I came across this "Tchibo zyclon upright vacuum"

It has since "sold out." No wonder - when it is an unbranded Vax Mach Air!


http://www.tchibo.de/zyklon-staubsauger-p200022992.html

 

[sebo_fan]

floor-a-matic, I don't quite understand what your gripe is.

After all the Hoover U.S company who made the Convertible uprights weren't exactly the same when they were sold in the UK under the Senior name...

Or Electrolux for that matter.

 

[parwaz786]

Wow, I assume it was a budget vac then if its a small company so its great value

 

[sebo_fan]

IM not sure what you mean? What do you mean by small company?

 

[parwaz786]

Isnt that a small company's which sold the cheap/fake Mach air clones?

 

[sebo_fan]

They're not clones, Tayyab.

TTI will happily sell their designs to trader companies to sell to other markets.

Germany was also home to the Clean Maxx bagless upright - in which it also appeared as the Hoover Turbo Power bagless upright. Not TTI of course, but still Chinese made.

 

[parwaz786]

Cool, you learn something new every day!

 

[blakaeg]

I'm surprised you went out and bought a Vax machine Olivetinfoil seeing as you were only posting not so long ago about the inferior quality of Chinese made products. Of which I did not agree with the comments made.

This forum never ceases to amaze me.

As you can see the Vax machine is pretty good for the price and despite it being made in the Far East along with Dysons, it feels pretty good in the hand

 

[sebo_fan]

well, I do hope one is allowed to change their opinion. There are no set rules in which members can't change their opinions.