New 2014 Vax Air total home - I am speechless

[oliveoiltinfoil]

Well the total home is the top of the line model, with the longest cord, the extra hose and the flexi-crevice tool. The reach model is slightly cheaper but I think does without the flexi tool and turbo brush.

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

I would never have thought this vax would be more powerful than the felix. The suction is on par with the felix, but I have been getting a bit sick of the felix recently because of the bag situation, when it gets a 1/3 full the smell is very bad, despite the fact I have a charcoal filter I bought separately, and also the felix isn't great for attachment use, but I do appreciate the build quality and it does clean well. I am very interested in the cylinder air silence power head as it looks amazing.

 

[sebo_fan]

The Vax Mach Air Reach always did come with a stair turbo brush, long 12 metre cable and the same add on extension hose.

Surely to god this model features something else other than the flexi tool and the lower watts? The newer metal based handle and everything else is a bit expensive for what you paid...

 

[henrydreyfuss]

The showstopper here

is the much better brushroll. I hope Hoover releases something similar in the states soon! I'd love to try it out!

 

[sebo_fan]

I'd be wary - if the brush roll is that good, I hope my wool carpets wouldn't be cut to shreds!

I have to be very careful with choice of daily drivers. My own 450 watt Vax VCU02 is a fantastic lightweight bagged upright, but is has a ferocious bushy brush roll that can damage more than it can clean if over used.

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

We have had this conversation on another thread and it is a good point, but I think more damage is doesn't to carpets due to a weaker brushroll not agitating properly and getting the grit out, than an aggressive brushroll. As long as you don't hold it in one place for prolonged periods of time. Woollen carpets are obviously more delicate than man-made fibre, so you do have to be careful.

 

[sebo_fan]

I would disagree with that completely. Why? Because although brush rolls may have a different texture of bristle, carpet contact with a vacuum cleaner is always variable because of the air between the suction floor head and the carpet pile. It is basic science versus weight and design of the floor plate AND stronger suction dependent on model.

For years I never knew that regarding the sole plate design. With my old Hoover uprights the only time dirt was pulled off a carpet was perhaps at the edges. With the SEBO X, the dirt can be pulled in well before the sole plate actually hits that part of the carpet and at the front - this is more noticeable on hard floors and ALSO with the Felix.

Thus, in turn, I've had a delicate brush roller in both my Felix and SEBO X. Softer bristles means the carpets are cleaned to my cleanliness ideals - if I want a deep clean I can use any old Hoover with a beater bar to beat the carpet, OR a brushier brush roll such as the one fitted to the Vax VCU02 - BUT, with stronger suction AND a brushier textured brush roll, damage can occur quite easily, whether the upright's brush roll adjusts properly or not.

After all, if you brush your hair with a stiff brush compared to a soft one, the chances are that the agitation of it and the action of the bristles can remove more hair than necessary. Same with a carpet, which also has the force of strong suction AND a brush moving at high speed that removes more carpet pile than actual dust.

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

Well, each to their own, but this vax got up a lot of fine dust and grit which was surprising considering I only vacuumed with the felix the day before. The bristles are stiff but not like scrubbing brush stiff. They agitate all my carpets which range from low piled to dense high pile carpets. It really does deep clean, something that couldn't be said for the original air upright.

Also, I went on argos website this owning as their new range is out. Some interesting new vacuums including a very peculiar looking Samsung upright, but I saw this vacuum had been reduced to £179.99, so I contacted argos, was on hold for about 20 minutes but explained that I only got this just over a week ago and they said they would honour the refund difference, so I am even happier now.

 

[dys0nb0y]

I noticed that you saw the Samsung upright and I've actually got one of those and I've got to say it is one of the best upright vacuum cleaners I've had its very light it deep cleans carpets and it comes of lots of attachment if you got the model I did today I went down to Argos and got the blue one really wanted to see what the Blue was like but I wanna kept it if it came with the same accessories my other one did haven't used it that will be go back to Argos £300 not a bad vacuum cleaner is a bit pricey I got mine cheaper than that are paying about 240 should give wanna try to be very pleased to the cyclone technology is very good I've used it two times a day and the filter is spotless

 

[rolls_rapide]

Samsung soleplate

In photo #6, the Samsung's soleplate certainly wouldn't allow brushed edge cleaning in the style of the U1104 Hoover Junior. Not even on one side, presuming the other side accounts for the drive belt.

Manufacturers these days, have some bloody peculiar ideas about "progress". That soleplate is a backward step.

 

[sebo_fan]

Oli - you are obviously very impressed with the Vax, but you are totally missing the point I am making.

The Vax has NLOS so it doesn't surprise me in the least that the pick up is going to be better than ANY Bagged vacuum let alone the Felix. However having too much suction can never be that good for a carpet - and in the defence of the Felix, at least you can adjust the power AND the height adjustment of the brush roller.

 

[super-sweeper]

It's a known fact, Samsung won awards for ugliest vacuum, AND ugliest Dyson knock-of of 2014! 

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

Well be that as it may, the combination of agitation and suction power this vax has is very good for all types of carpeting, and I say that because I have jsut about all types of carpeting, low piled, thick pile, dense and shaggy rugs and this does brilliant on all of them, and what it picks up from them is very good, so I can hardly say that having this much pulling power is a bad thing.

However, that is something I would critisize about this vac, is that is needs a way of adjusting the power as on lightwiehgt bathroom matts for example, it sticks so much it start to swallow them up. I have mastered a way of cleaning them, by havign the head half on and half off the matts, hopefully this is something vax can address.

 

[sebo_fan]

IMHO the Mach Air Reach is the best bagless upright I have tried so far. It has a soft brush roll so its a winner in my eyes but it is a brute to take off hard floors or whenever the brush roll is turned off. Doesn't sound like Vax have learnt their lesson here.

A small air valve could have been applied to the acrylic floor head to let out some suction air, so that it doesn't stick to hard floors or a vent somewhere at least for air to be a bit less when dealing with hard floors.

 

[mieles5380leo]

Hoover?

The 2014 Vax Air looks like a Hoover wind tunnel AIR. Which brand copied who?

 

[suckolux]

Hoover copied Vax on that one

 

[ultraperformer]

Already down to £179.99, hope the TOL silence simular gets slashed in price as that machine looks excellent!

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

Vax copied no one. I trust that you are awear Hoover US and VAX are both owned by Hong Kongs TTI who design and manufacture a lot of other vacuum cleaners for various manufactures, and this design is an original Vax design. Indeed on the box it says "designed in the UK" so it is possible Hoover US adopted this design and used it on their models.

 

[sptyks]

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"The 2014 Vax Air looks like a Hoover wind tunnel AIR. Which brand copied who?"


 


Mieles5380Leo: In case you didn't already know, Vax and Hoover USA are both owned by the same company: TTI Floor Care Products LLC. So no one copied the other unless you wanted to say: TTI copied itself.


 


So indeed, the Vax Air and the Hoover Windtunnel Air are basically the same machine except for minor differences such as color.

 

[sebo_fan]

The original Vax Mach Air however has a slightly different arrangement - especially with the hose at the rear. This newer model matches Hoover's original Windtunnel Air with the hose stretched around the front at the left hand side - a bit like the old Vax Swift/Dirt Devil U.S models.