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[dys0nb0y]

Sebo d4

I personally Think the sebo d4 It's a fantastic vacuum for a big Home It's got the same powerhead as the sebo Felix .It's just like As a d2 But has a hand control and a powerhead It is probably better than the Felix It's got all the bells and whistles And it's got a five year parts and labour But that's my opinion everyone's got their opinions

 

[madaboutsebo]

I can see where your coming from but for me not necessarily I get more in the new synthetic bags so they are in the machine longer than the paper ones. The second one I've put in has one of them SEBO fresheners that I like so that masks any smell I normally get. To be honest I don't overly notice the pet hair smell only slightly even with the standard filter flitted. I don't run it on full power either. Then again suppose it depends on type of pet/dog and if the hair/skin is more oily which properly gives off more of a scent!

When I switch to the Miele which I fitted a charcoal filter not longer after as I could smell pet hair I don't now only when I first switch it on I get a blast of dog smell then it goes. Again I let the 6 litre bag fill to the top.

 

[madaboutsebo]

I quite like the idea of the D4. I sometimes wish I had another SEBO instead of getting the Miele S7 but wanted to see what all the fuss was about with a Miele same as when I got my Felix!

 

[sebo_fan]

Which one do you prefer or do you like the Felix and S7?

 

[hoovervirgin]

I dont have any pets. I do like the d4 but the colour white worries me. Will it spoil easier i.e discolour? The review for the d4 arent as good as the d2 or felix pet. Glasgow is my nearest John lewis so i will try and contact them and see if i they can arrange a viewing. Thank you all for your input!

 

[sebo_fan]

Glad I could help

Harry - I have a K3 Premium - its white - it doesn't discolour and it actually hides the scratches pretty well! Wish they were all white infact! My Felix is also the Navy model but has a cream outer body - it has hidden its age well.

IF John Lewis in Glasgow can't stock the D2 Total in for you, try getting them to get the first model in, the D2 Storm (its red) - you can buy the mini turbo brush head in the store to match the D2 Total spec, but you may have to get the main turbo brush floor head online.

The Glasgow store is notorious for putting out ex-demo machines on the shop floor too (though they would get you in a new D model since they sell them online) so just be careful of that as you may end up buying a SEBO X4 Excel instead lol Its my local store, so I go there all the time.

 

[dys0nb0y]

The Reviews on the sebo D4 Are not as good because it is not available in stores And Not very popular But a very good machine It is exactly the same as the D2 Just 10 times better In my opinion I would go For the D4

 

[sptyks]

What is the power consumption of the Felix? ie. motor watts.

 

[sebo_fan]

1300 watt motor for the Felix, 175 watts for the PN head.

As for the D4, the UK reviews that exist on it in written form do show average buyers compared to Roger and others (RichardLee also on You Tube) who are collectors and have done video reviews on it.

The D4 reiterates my personal feeling for it - I don't like it - yes, it has that Felix ET-1 power head which is great but the hose becomes more difficult to manage as time goes on because of the embedded cord running through it and doesn't always turn at the top behind the handle despite it having a restricted swivel.

The suction only models are far more flexible and lighter to pull along with the machine behind not to mention the light weight main floor tools on the front.

I had the same issue with my K3 Premium, which uses a shorter hose, but still the same problem happens. Even after SEBO sent out a new and improved hose, the hose still feels heavier because of the embedded cord and it doesn't always turn the way I want my hand to go when holding onto the handle.

Its all very well having an electronic suction control handle on the SEBO cylinders, and some members like models such as the K3 Vulcano that offers that alone - but without the power nozzle floor head I find the whole concept just as useless - dont get me wrong - I loved it when I first got it, but after a while the hose really got on my nerves.

The old excuse that "you don't have to bend down to change the suction setting," gets forgotten easily when you still have to bend down to pull the cord for cord rewind or take a tool.

 

[madaboutsebo]

I do like them both, although the S7 is bulky and heavy. I prefer the Felix more as it's lighter and more versatile and slimmer to go under furniture.

 

[sebo_fan]

The thing I loved about the S7 was its variable suction control. But like you I found it too heavy and bulky. It's a real pity Miele doesn't do a smaller bagged upright - I'm sure it would sell but Miele would probably lose out sales of their cylinder vacs.

 

[hoovervirgin]

Just to spice things up..........

this has the turbo head. Shall i just bite the bullet?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sebo-airbelt-D4-Pet-Airbelt/dp/B0049MOGYQ

 

[sebo_fan]

Up to you - but I seriously have second thoughts about it - the embedded cord in the D4 is heavier and not as light and easy to use as the D2. Plus that price of £340 is really too high. Also the supplier company on Amazon list the company in Germany - the machine might be supplied with a German plug, not UK plug - best to contact them if you're really that interested.

 

[hoovervirgin]

Cheaper price.......

The cheapest i can find it is £263.90 delivered. The plug will be a german plug but that wouldn't be an issue either using an adapter or putting on a uk plug.

I assumed the D4 Pet was just a D2 with a turbo floor head?

 

[sebo_fan]

No. The D4 means you get the electric hose which has push button suction controls on the handle.

You can't just use a UK plug on a vac fitted with the German plug - the voltage might be different. Its a bit of an effort to go to if you intend to sell the vacuum later on.

The cheapest D2 Total on Amazon UK is £249

http://www.amazon.co.uk/D2-TOTAL-BA...&qid=1395441260&sr=1-1&keywords=SEBO+D2+Total

 

[dys0nb0y]

Well actually Germany and England had the same voltage just different plugs I had I have had many vacuums from Germany Hoover virgin go for it looks like a fantastic vacuum and 10 times better than the D2. personally I would go for the D4 premium is a lot better

 

[sebo_fan]

See, the reason why I'm not that keen on the D4 for Harry is because of his height. My aunt is 5ft 7, she's not that elderly and she struggled to use my K3 Premium with the older ET-H floor head as well as the electric hose.

The D4 hose is heavier from behind with the metal tubes from the front and whatever floor head is used, though at least the air driven turbo brush is far lighter than the 2.4kg ET-1 floor head.

You can keep saying how good the D4 is "10 times better," but he did say he was going to buy a Miele S8 model, which is why I've recommended the D2 model.

 

[madabouthoovers]

The D4 Premium does have a weak point - there is an external connector wire between the hose cuff at the handle and the top of the electric telescopic wand. This wire has a tendency to fracture internally due the constant twisting back on forth, and when it fails the floorhead stops working.


Replacements are not cheap.


 

 

[madaboutsebo]

I quite like the variable suction control on the S7 too Ryan especially the suggested settings labelled around it. Me too wish they did a smaller lighter slimmer upright. They do 2 cylinder version small and large! I can see what you mean but it's still money in Miele pocket just not on a cylinder but on an upright if they offered a smaller version.

I think they are missing a trick as some people who prefer uprights but find the S7 bulky and heavy might not like the idea of a cylinder so go else where. Miele do offer a wide range in all there other appliances so why they don't do a broader range in their vacuum line. Suppose most of their markets prefer cylinders and the S7 was their fully own designed upright. I not that keen on cylinders generally in terms of using one to clean with.

 

[sebo_fan]

I like Miele's cylinder vacs but the older ones are better - so much more durable. The best one I ever had was the S571 then fell for the charms of the S4210 which was much lighter by weight. But still the old S300, S500 and S700 are better built but very heavy.

I also have the Alternative stick vac but it's not so good at carpet pick up, even with a turbo brush tagged on. Miele know they can do a small upright - but they just won't do it. They may do it if other brands return to making bagged vacuums again in Europe.