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Nice vacuum! For all you Lux vacuum lovers, can you explain the air that comes out from duct at the base of my upright. Here is a picture demo using a tissue and turning the vacuum on. It shows the tissue being blown away. (KirbyLoverDan) any thoughts? If both of your Guardians do not have this issue, then I guess I got a reject.

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Got curious...I took it in yesterday, before I even sent this pic....got a call just before, they said its the motor that blows out air, and nothing is wrong. I questioned and said how could it be, everything should come out of the final hepa filter. The air goes into the bag>pre-filter>into main cavity>out the hepa filter, including the motor air and carbon dust they usually give off. They said it was working fine, and that's how it is. I really wasn't to thrilled, so I called Aerus corporate customer service and they referred me back to the local dealer...I explained my situation, they went on to say they do not know of any problems with the Guardian and I should consult the local dealer I purchased it from.

There is such disconnect and no accountability between Aerus and its franchises... I am not thinking of putting it to market and choosing a different machine that is built better.
 
The brush roll on or off, I does not matter, air still comes out. It cleans well, but its just the idea and fact that it blows air out where it shouldn't. at $700 its a joke
 
Then I

suggest you just get another vacuum . It obvious you dont like Aerus so why own an Aerus get rid of it and get something else .
Problem solved !

Just like I dont like Miele I chose not to own any in my collection of 400+ vacuums . Not every machine is for every person thats why there are many to choose from .

Hope you find one that fits .[this post was last edited: 1/15/2013-15:39]
 
Thanks Dan. :). Love the new lux. Like I mentioned before I really think this is lux's best machine since the model G. I also love how it almost sound like my xxx
 
If you can post some picture of your collection some time that wous be great Dan. . Would love to see some of your machines. I don't have too many machines but love seeing others especially high quality machines.
I just have an xxx, AF, super J , silverado, a legacy which I still use at our cqbin in north ga and my new plarinum. I am actually thinking of retiring the 10'year old legacy for another platinumm. Only thing is I would never need the power noisily up there, the few area rugs I have, I just use the flip brush.
 
Dan, any idea if or when Aerus will offer the cloth-like synthetic bags for better filtration? I converted to those Perfect HEPA bags for three of my four vintage Electroluxes and I love them. I only use the synthetic bags in my fleet of Kirbys and have now converted my blue line Sanitaire and my Koblenz to use the synthetic ST style bags. It seems that more and more these kinds of bags are being used, it would be a shame if Aerus didn't.
Also, I would like your opinion of the Lux Renny and 6500. How they compare to other lux machines. Cheep Rennys and 6500 show up on ebay often and I'd like to buy one... someday since I'm poor as dirt right now. Which would be best for a house with a fifty/fifty mix of commercial grade carpet and tile... add three cats and loads of 'debris' coming in from outside.
Thanks in advance.
Justin
 
I have had the same issue with the exhaust....

I have had a couple of the Lux Uprights that have had air escaping. I too took mine in the first time I noticed it. The explaination I was given was the upright is not a truly sealed system, but the air escaping was not coming from the tube that connects the power nozzle to the suction motor. That tube can be replaced rather easily. It is a reverse screw in and is a tight fit. I truly do believe that the air is coming out from the cavity in the machine somewhere. My first was a Discovery III and I did not notice it with that vacuum, as I did have to replace the duct hose. Maybe too much back pressure from the side filters they added on after the Discovery's were discontinued.


 


Sincerely,


 


Bud Mattingly


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Bud, my model- the current model Guardian Upright has the HEPA filter on the side, its a cartridge that appends to the side of the machine. I think it puts too much pressure on the inside forcing air out of the cord or duct areas. Anything that is not sealed will cause air to escape. I really like Aerus and want to own and keep their products, however, I think they lack in quality control and engineering. I bet most people are not even aware there is air leaking from the underside area on these uprights, or perhaps its a hit or miss problem not affecting every machine. That being said, I still like the performance and my carpets look good, but Id rather own something that is solidly engineered for now until they improve their upright line. I might start looking into Riccar TOL upright and the Miele s7 salsa, they seem much more advance and feature LED headlights...
 
Riccar and Simplicity

Tol vacuums with tandem air are way better than Miele .
I had an S7 salsa and it was a heavy vacuum very bulky and I am a Kirby lover and feel my Kirby Sentria is way easier to use and isn't as bulky . I have a Jack Russell and no vacuum but My Miele smelled like dog and my dog doesn't smell . I had the charcoal hepa filters in it and it really smelled bad . No Aerus , Kirby or my Riccar or any other vacuum smelled as bad as my Miele . That was the main reason I sold it . The LEDs are cool but I find regular incandescent builds to be very bright . Maybe it's my white carpets I see no big difference .
 
I guess I will be looking into the Riccar then... Why is that? The bags don't contain anti-odor blockers.
 
I have no idea

But none of my bagged vacuums smell just Miele maybe it's because the are sealed too good but it is really nasty especially since my dog never smells shes bathed twice a month and i was her paws when she come in yes she is pampered , and no other vacuum smells not even regular standard bags like when I use a Hoover convertible . My Capricorn smelled also along with my Silver moon and Aluminium .
 
Justin, I don't know this for sure but I don't see why Aerus/lux couldn't offer a cloth/hepa type bag some day as the lux intelligence in Europe does offer a cloth hepa P style bag.
 
Guardian Upright & Aerus' Filtration Claims....

Daniel....Aerus may not directly say on their website that the Aerus Guardian upright is a Sealed HEPA Filtration upright, but they do make some statements that would mislead a consumer to believe it is.

Like "A specially designed, HEPA afterfilter captures contaminants as small as 0.3 microns such as pet danders, dust mites and other pollutants." It also says at the top of the page "True HEPA Filtration". Nowhere on their website do they state that their HEPA filter is a "HEPA-Type" filter, that the HEPA rating applies to only the filter & not the vacuum as a whole, like Bissell does on their website. The average consumer who looks at the statement where the filter is specially designed, they would immediately think the vacuum has been made to filter properly & is sealed. By using such wording, in my opinion they are using misleading & false advertising to sell their product. And especially for the price they are commanding for the Guardian Upright, Sealed HEPA Filtration should be a standard feature! There's no excuse for poor, improper design when buying a premium product....Aerus could have easily spent a few dollars on a small redesign of the product to make it sealed.

And so you are aware, the Guardian Platinum is not the first vacuum they have made the claim of having Sealed HEPA filtration. That rightfully belongs to the Aerus Guardian Ultra....they also currently claim on their website it is a Sealed HEPA Filtration vacuum, when in reality it is not. The ONLY WAY they have made it so all the air goes thru the filter is they are using a inferior HEPA filter which does not offer much resistance to airflow. If they have modified their original design & made it sealed, I would love to see them prove it, as when I had seen one there appeared little evidence of it. All they have done is design a new top control panel....nothing more. I wouldn't even dream of buying that vacuum based on it's claims & what I have seen in person.

Justin....Just so you are aware, there is another manufacturer besides Perfect that are making Cloth HEPA filtration bags for Electrolux vacuums. JohnnyVac, a vac shop distributor & supply company based in Montreal, Quebec, has been making their own brand of Cloth HEPA filtration bags. The code you need to order for the Electrolux Type C canister bags is 6X25H, 6 bags per package....and for the Electrolux upright the code is 6X26H, 6 bags per package. You would have to call them & see if they would arrange to sell to you directly, or if they would refer you to a dealer who would sell & ship the bags to you. JohnnyVac's website to contact them directly is www.johnnyvac.com.

Mark....to make the Guardian Upright a Sealed HEPA Filtration vacuum is simple. All they would have to do is put the motor in a plastic case inside the motor compartment that would direct the air to the HEPA filter opening, & use some rubber seals where the case meets the opening. As to whether or not Electrolux has advertised their vacuums as being sealed in the past, the answer to that is no. But then again, there was also no need for it, either. The Electrolux bag, as you have clearly seen yourself, does the majority of the filtering, & is one of the best designed & best made paper bags in the industry, in my opinion. Also, the cloth afterfilter the Aerus Classic & Legacy models use does an excellent job of capturing particles, yet they do allow the vacuum's airflow to escape well. So, due to the design of the filters, it wasn't necessary.

EurekaPrince/Brian....Yes, Electrolux AB of Sweden did establish Electrolux here in North America, BUT that's all they did. The North American division is solely responsible, in my opinion, for Electrolux having the legacy & reputation it has today worldwide. If you look at some of the European Electrolux models from the 60's & 70's, like the Dometic & Husqvarna canisters, it's clear when compared to the North American models that they are copying their basic design with slight changes. And this was LONG BEFORE Consolidated Foods bought Electrolux in 1968....by that point, they had already come out with the major innovations they are known for today, such as the Power Nozzle, Automatic Control & self-sealing 4-ply bags. With the exception of the introduction of new power nozzle designs, & the introduction of the Sidekick mini PN, all that Consolidated Foods did was introduce new models with styling changes, but with the same features, quality, & maintain the image that Electrolux had built for themselves before the buyout.

Rob
 
Thank you Rob

but as lucky as I have been in my life I dream of purchasing EVERY vacuum my heart desires . Thats why I own over 400+ vacuums . When ever I see a high end vacuum I desire I just pull out the ca$h and make my purchase .

I love all of my brand new high end vacuums and especially Aerus my new next to Kirby Favorite . Stay tuned I will be posting my new purchases of three Kirby Sentria II`s . One was just not enought for me so I bought three .
 

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