My New Aerus Guardian Ultra

[danorob1]

OK - So if you look at the images at the start of my post, you will see that the carpet is a very high quality carpet, that is so tightly packed, that it is almost impossible to really pull the fibers apart to get to the carpet backing...

From the standpoint of vacuuming it, I would usually have to set any adjustable power nozzle or upright head on the lowest setting or they did not really do anything... It is almost like you are vacuuming flat office carpet without padding...

So - For the Final Verdict - Do you think I would have any issues using the green brush roll ???

I am thinking the answer would be no, but am a little nervous after following all the replies...

Thanks,
Dan P.

 

[floor-a-matic]

Go for this double-helix brush roller; it'll clean even "hard-to-groom" carpets. This way, U won't "fry out" the PN motor. I don't know how the HPO green brush roller can put a lot of strain to the PN motors.

There was also a 3-row brush roller for the PN1 that came with the Hospital G. I don't know why the 3-row brush roller didn't sell so well?

http://www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?606

 

[funeraldirector]

TRY IT

Dan P.,

Looking at your carpet you will be fine with the green roller. You will notice the carpets will get softer with repeated use. I have several rooms of berber the same color and shampoo with the FloorPro and Kirby lavender suds. The stiffer bristles beat that soap residue out a lot better.


Floor-a-Matic,

That is what I call double helix. Can you post some up close pics of you Tristar CS nozzle lid on and lid off? I have never seen one up close and personal. I like the idea of the metal top cover.


Brian

 

[floor-a-matic]

Can I use the DriLux (DriStar) (blue or white bristles) brush roller on a Lux or A101 TriStar PN? It seems like the more bristles, the better grooming of carpet; like as if I was using a pile lifter.

 

[danorob1]

So.... The Day I picked up the Guardian Ultra, I ordered three boxes of the Perfect HEPA bags from Amazon... Due to an error on their part, they shipped Envirocare bags, and not the Perfect HEPA Bags...

So I had to Vacuum using the Aerus Blue bag that was in the vacuum when I purchased it...

Guess What... When the correct Perfect HEPA bags finally came yesterday, and I took out the Aerus Blue bag, the Bottom of the bag where the dark blue paper strip is, was covered in dust over where the motor intake port is...

So it is clear that the problem is not just with the Bags in the Guardian Platinum, but I think Aerus has an issue with their bags as a whole...

In the Two years that I had used the Perfect Metal Canister with the Perfect HEPA Bags, there was NEVER a trace of dust in the bag chamber - (I used to wipe it with a Black Cloth just to check)...

When I wiped the Chamber of the my Guardian Ultra, there was a coating of dust in it already after only vacuuming three times... Mostly in the lower part of the chamber...

I will stop by Aerus tomorrow to check out the floor models and see how dirty the bag chambers are in the demo models...

I am really glad now that I stayed with the Ultra for now until this is resolved... I would not use any bag other then the Perfect HEPA bags now...

Dan P.

 

[kirbyloverdan]

I own two

Guardian Ultras and I just took out my full bag I have used this machine for two years and purchased my bags when I bought the machine. I buy the 100 pack of the genuine Aerus blue bags . I took a black cotton cloth and wiped inside my 2 year old Ultras bag chamber and the cloth came out clean zero dust trace inside . I wonder if Areus has changed how they make their bags compared to my two year old bags . I also buy my bags for my uprights by the 100 pack and that was also two years ago . I checked my upright also and it's dust free also .

Dan

 

[electromatik]

This is just so surprising... The bags are tested to filter 97% of .5 microns and 94% of .3 microns. I don't see how that much could get thru. Could it be coming from outside the bag as the air swirls around the bag?

 

[floor-a-matic]

Here's my TriStar A101 (general model # for the EXL, MG1/2/3 & CS Series canisters) PN with the die-cast magnesium housing on. The die-cast magnesium housing puts more weight onto the nozzle, literally "digging" into the carpet.

I don't know whether to use the green HPO brush roller or the DriStar/DriLux "pile-lifting" (blue bristle or white bristle) brush roller. Sometimes I want to "pile lift" while vacing the carpets before shampooing with the Lux B8 or Kirby Classic 1CR or "steam cleaning" with the Rinsenvac or Hoover Steam Vac SpinScrub Classic; especially if I skipped a vacing session or want to pick up whatever the other vacuums didn't pick up.

 

[floor-a-matic]

"Pile lifter" brush roller

This is the brush roller that I'm thinking about using for my TriStar CXL. I know a similar brush roller was made for Lux style PN that will fit a TriStar A101 PN; but the bristles are blue instead of white like the TriStar CXL/DXL/EX-20 PN (shown here)

Would a brush roller like this one put more strain to the motor and/or ruin the carpet fibers? Does this brush roller really enhance grooming & dirt removal from carpet?[this post was last edited: 3/3/2013-01:32]

 

[kirbyultimateg]

Erik,
I recommend using the DriLux/DriStar only for shampooing carpets/rugs with Capture/Host. I recommend the HPO brushroll with green bristles and the Vibra Groomer III Disturbulator. I recommend using the Electrolux B8 with the naplifters or using the Kirby Classic with the carpet fluffer/floor polisher attachment.
Rob

 

[floor-a-matic]

Blue bristle "Pile-lifter" brush for Lux PN

<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">This is the brush roller I might buy for my TriStar A101 (general model # for EXL, MG1, MG2, MG3 & CS Series vacuums)</span>


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<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">I wonder if the blue "pile lifter" bristles brush roller (shown here) seem to be more efficient than the green HPO brush roller?

I'm surprised to find a white bristle "pile lifter" brush roller for the TriStar CXL PN (shown in previous pic) but I found only for TriStar CXL PNs that use a cogged belt & haven't found a "pile lifter" brush roller for a TriStar CXL power nozzle that use a flat belt. </span>

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[kirbyultimateg]

I would get the brushroll with the blue bristles and get the brushroll with the green bristles. That way, You could see which brushroll works better.

 

[bagintheback]

floor-a-matic

Could you provide us with a link to this pile lifter brush roll? If the price is decent, I'd love to get one for my Omi-Flow Automatic.

 

[kirbyultimateg]

BagInTheBack,
I would get the beaterbar with the green bristles and get the beaterbar with the blue bristles. That way, You could see which beaterbar works better.
Rob

 

[floor-a-matic]

"Pile-lifter" brush rollers for Lux & TriStar PNs

<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">That photo of the blue "pile lifter" brush roller on the Lux PN was from an eBay listing that ended a few yrs ago.  I'm not sure if Lux and/or TriStar and/or their dealers still have those "pile lifter" brush rollers.</span>


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<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Here's a link for the TriStar "pile lifter" brush roller for older TriStar PNs; but I think it's only for cogged belt models.  I don't know if the eBay seller is willing to part the DriStar (DriLux) for parts?</span>


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<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-family: verdana, geneva;">The Lux version with blue bristles on left; & the TriStar version with white bristles on right</span>
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[floor-a-matic]

"Pile lifter" brush rollers

<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">The Lux version with blue bristles on left; & the TriStar version with white bristles on right</span>

 

[kirbyultimateg]

To everybody who owns Aerus Electrolux vacuum cleaners, I strongly recommend using Perfect HEPA cloth disposable bags over using Aerus Electrolux paper disposable bags. The cloth disposable bags are much better than the paper disposable bags. Thank you.

 

[electromatik]

CAUTION:

Using any other bag in your Aerus/Electrolux machine will VOID your warranty. There is no legal way to tell whether Chinese made bags truly meet the Department of Energy's regulation. There is no U.S. law that says something defined as "HEPA" meets the standard they impose. Aerus/Electrolux has always been strict on this point due to the high quality bags they use.

 

[kirbyultimateg]

I thought the Perfect PN canister vacuum is a copy of the Aerus Electrolux PN canister vacuum. Am I correct?

 

[cc]

Perfect vac

Well, it is a chinese version of an old Electrolux. They are trying to fool people into thinking they are American made, and associated with the Electrolux company. They are not. If you use their bags in a newer Aerus machine it will void your warranty. However, they would need to find out of course. The problem with the Perfect brand bags is quality control. They might be great, but might not. They might be true hepa material might not. Since they are a Chinese company, they are not worried about their reputation. Having said this, everyone has their own needs, and if these bags fit yours, have at it; just do so with eyes open as to what you are buying.
PS.
I know a couple people who have the Perfect Canister vacuum. One has had great service so far and recommends it highly for its' suction. The other person had a broken machine within the first month, and has yet to make contact with anyone to help her with a repair - she hates it. So......

 

[kirbyloverdan]

Just like

every machine I own I always use the genuine bag made by the manufacturer period .
That's the only advice I will ever follow and most vacuum collectors already know that.

Dan

 

[luxman107]

I agree Dan. Just because perfect makes a bag called hepa doesn't mean it is better. Even if they made a bag that fit the platinum .. Perfect vac's bag only fits the C style bags ..perfect vac is an Electrolux knock off made in china. Not even close in quality to the original.

 

[floor-a-matic]

<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">So far I haven't found either the green bristle HPO brush roller or the blue bristle "pile lifter" brush roller for the Lux PNs & TriStar A101 PN; the Aerus/Electrolux dealers in my area don't have any left.  </span><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Or even the white bristle "pile lifter" brush roller for the TriStar DXL PN model #2-51 (cogged belt) or TriStar CXL PN model #2-1000 (flat belt)</span>

 

[kirbyultimateg]

You might want to order the brushroll for the Perfect PN canister. I heard this beaterbar has stiff bristles.

 

[floor-a-matic]

Does the Lux Classic or Legacy clean as good as the Guardian Ultra or Guardian Platinum? I may be buying a new Lux soon.

 

[cc]

NO! There is a difference

All are excellent machines. You would be happy with any one of them. HOWEVER, the Platinum is much more powerful than the others; has more filtration, and in general is a much better machine. I have recently puchased a Platinum and find it to be the best vacuum I have used in a long time. My Mom has the Ultra, my sister the Legacy. All work great and perform well. But the Platinum makes them both jealous !! It is really a fine vacuum, that cleans extremely well.

 

[luxman107]

Cliff is right on. All clean well and are exceptional machines, but it comes down to features and filtration that separate them. You won't go wrong with any of them. I have them all except the ultra.

 

[floor-a-matic]

Will my Electrolux PN6 (Marquis-era) work OK if I put on the green bristle HPO brush roller? Or would the green bristle HPO brush roller ruin the PN motor?

 

[floor-a-matic]

Underside of Electrolux PN6 (Marquis-era) with double-helix brush roller. I use this PN with the older Electrolux canister vacuums (G, L, 1205 & Super J) instead of the older PNs (PN1, PN2 & PN4)

Those double-helix brush rollers greatly improve cleaning performance on the older Electrolux vacs!

 

[bimmer740]

@floor-a-matic- Brush Roll

I have no experience using the green brush roll but it was only available for a very short time before being discontinued. I've been using Electrolux vacuums for more than 20 years and in every Electrolux/Aerus machine I currently own I have replaced the brush roll with the latest style. Attached is a link to Totalvac.com which stocks the genuine Electrolux/Aerus brush roll and its only $11. I've probably purchased about 5 of these in the last 2 years and I love them! About 6 years ago I found an Epic 6000 canister sitting by the curb late at night while I was going to pick up a friend to go out for drinks. On my way home at 2am it was still there, so I grabbed from the curb and took it home only to realize the only problem was its hose had a clog. I decied to replace the brush roll, belt and it needed a headlight too, so I went to my Aerus dealer that is within 5 minutes from my house and I walked out of there spending around $60-70 on those three parts. The link is of the latest style genuine brush roll and in my opinion the best one they have made yet. Its extra turn of bristles really improves performance, and even if you dont love it, for only $11 its not a big loss. I think you would be very satisfied with it, and its not going to be overly aggresive on your carpets like the green bristle brush roll.

http://www.totalvac.com/48497.html