Miele S7210 vs Dyson DC41/65/big ball

[turbo500]

Whether the Kirby outcleans the S7 or not, that's not really what this discussion is for. If Tayyab had a Kirby available to him, I'm sure he would've asked the question - but here, he is specifically asking about the Miele compared with the Dyson and instead of posting about the pro's and con's of those machines, this conversation has once again been steered towards Kirby. Even when Kirby aren't even being debated, people feel the need to bring them up in conversation.

Can we have one discussion on this website where we stay on topic and leave Kirby's for conversations where it's relevant?

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

@sptyks

You got rekt m9

 

[sebo_fan]

I agree, regarding the S7. If your home is large enough the S7 will certainly feel at home. And if you can get a cheap one, then all the better to kit the S7 out with worthwhile optional cleaning accessories that Miele also sell.

 

[parwaz786]

O wow.
Stan: Thanks I do like the Kirby, it looks good and I would happily get one if a bargain pops up
Chris: Cheers, I am aware the Miele is superior to the Kirby in certain ways and it's nice of you to take the time out of your day to inform me about the comparison between the two and I really appreciate it
Olive: lol omg
I do like how heavy it would be tho shows quality

 

[turbo500]

I wasn't comparing the Kirby :S.
In fact, I was specifically not comparing the Kirby.

 

[parwaz786]

I guess u were a bit, not really a comparison but kinda is, sorry came home late after a wedding in Lancashire

 

[turbo500]

I compared the Miele and the Dyson, but not the Kirby?

 

[parwaz786]

"Tayyab, there's good and bad features to both. Both cleaners have stair stretch hoses and strong hose suction. The Miele has the advantage slightly as it has variable power so you can clean literally everything with it. You'll very rarely, if ever, need to use the Miele on full power. The lower settings are perfect for dusting and cleaning things like curtains."

The words "both cleaners have stair reach hoses and strong hose suction" suggest that you are informing me about the similarities on the two machines i.e Kirby and Miele. This shows slight comparison.

 

[parwaz786]

Guys how quiet is this Miele S7 on the lowest setting? What's it like compared to a Henry on high and low power? cheers

 

[sptyks]

dysonboy:  Come on!!! Yes it is normal for any vacuum cleaner to leave<span style="text-decoration: underline; font-size: 14pt;"> some </span>dust behind, but the Kirby was picking up tons of dust left behind that Miele. It's almost like that carpet had not been vacuumed for months even after the S7 had vacuumed for a full 2 minutes before the Kirby had a go.


 

 

[turbo500]

Sorry Tayyab, I should have been more specific. I was actually talking about the Dyson and the S7, not the Kirby and the S7.

 

[turbo500]

In an attempt to keep this conversation from being yet another [expletive] Kirby thread, lets discuss the pro's and con's of the S7 vs. the Dyson. These are just off the top of my head, I'm sure others will have their own input.

<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Dyson Pro's</span>


 


- bagless, so few running costs
- lightweight in operation


- additional tools and replacements are cheaper to buy


 


<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Dyson con's:</span>


 


- can be messy to maintain with filters and bins


- average carpet performance compared with some other top end uprights


- difficult to get under low furniture


 


<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Miele pro's:</span>


 


- bags tend to be more hygenic


- fantastic carpet performance


- variable power for multi surface and above floor cleaning


- more solid build quality
- large cleaner head covering more surface area


 


<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Miele con's:</span>


 


 - difficult to repair


 - can be expensive on parts


 - bags and filters will have to be replaced over time, so there is more running cost
 - heavy to lift
- large cleaner head can be difficult to maneuver


 


Both cleaners have swivel action, full stair stretch hoses, strong hose suction and good tools.

 

[parwaz786]

It's fine Chris Looking at that I can see there are things I like about both the Dyson and the Miele. I think I will try and see if I can get a really low price on the Miele as I haven't used one before

 

[blackheart]

I still think

You should give it a shot. I'm not sure what they sell for over there, but I do know the model i have sells for like 600. So to me it looks like a good bargain.

 

[parwaz786]

How quiet are they on the lowest setting? Are they like that quiet enough to talk quietly?

 

[blackheart]

Hmmm...

On the lowest setting you should be able to talk over it, if you have the brushroll off, the brushroll is probably the loudest thing on it. According to this video from Vacuum Wizard it's range is 65-75db

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmlNnzP9UZo

 

[sebo_fan]

Where is the hose on a Kirby though? Does it stay on board?

 

[tolivac]

The Kirby hose is not on the machine.To use it-you have to remove the floor nozzle-then attach the hose to the machine.I really DON'T like hoses and attachments on the machine-makes it cumbersome,awkward,heavier.I use a canister machine for the "hose&Bag" jobs.Its really easier than using the upright as a canister-with some-including the Meile-using the hose as a canister is like dancing with a drunk.The machine wants to try to tip.The stretch hose is awkward.The hose on board and wand is good for cobwebs in corners and baseboards,though.I own a Meile S7-kinda don't fully beleive the video of the Meile and Kirby.BOTH are competent machines.What speed was the Meile set for?Was its bag full?Was there a clog in the hose?I do like the Kirbys better than the Meile.I just think something was wrong with the Meile in the video.And the dark setting makes me wonder.Lets turn on some LIGHTS,please,when we video!Cameras need LIGHT to work!

 

[parwaz786]

"I really DON'T like hoses and attachments on the machine-makes it cumbersome,awkward,heavier"

Except for Dyson uprights, the hoses are tucked away neatly at the back as it doesn't even have a hose!

 

[sebo_fan]

I can't really see why you would come to such an opinion, Tayyab. Most hoses and tools are lighter than a kilogram when put altogether. Its no as if they are saddling the upright with heavier components. The Miele S7, granted has more durable fittings but you'll soon realise the worth that it has if you get the vacuum.