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Vegassucks...

I debated even responding to you as you seem to think you know everything. However, as an industry professional and life-long hobbyist, I'd like to point out the source of all your issues as it's blatantly obvious...


 


<span style="font-size: x-large; text-decoration: underline;">!!! Your bag is not installed properly !!!</span> 


 


Please clean off the collar using another vacuum, install the bag PROPERLY and you'll find that the issue will disappear.


 


...or don't do as I suggest, as I'm sure you'll just continue to direct your ignorant comments towards me.


 


(For your convenience, I took the time to attach a PDF of the owners manual for your Miele.)



http://www.mieleusa.com/manuals_pdf/Residential/Vacuums/S8000_us.pdf
 
Piano or Vacuum God?

Piano or Vacuum God or whatever you call yourself! YOUR WRONG! But I do appreciate your attempt to fix something that is not broken. The bag is in correctly, PERIOD. The seal is deformed or it may have been installed incorrectly when new but it only install one way and it is installed correctly.

The photo is not how the bag is now, it was pulled to take photos and was installed properly prior to removal and after the photo was taken. That is funny I knew Piano_God would see that thou.
 
"Piano or Vacuum God or whatever you call yourself! YOUR WRONG! But I do appreciate your attempt to fix something that is not broken. The bag is in correctly, PERIOD."


 


For my sanity and the sanity of Vacuumland, I'm finished with you, Vegassucks. 


 


Sadly, I cannot "fix" an ignorant owner whose vacuum is clearly over the head of its user. Hence, I suggest you return your Miele.
 
Vacuum God

Vaccuum God, Thank you for freeing me from your ignorant advise, next time wait until someone ask you for advise prior to giving it. So you can sleep with peace a photo of the bag installed.
My advise to you is, stick with Piano's
[this post was last edited: 9/3/2013-03:00]

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Vegassucks,


 


I am delighted my advise assisted you in installing your GN bag correctly. It's incredibly kind that you'd take the time out of your busy day learning how to use your Miele to think of me. A picture truly is worth a thousand words and I'll cherish it for many years to come. Knowing that I got through to you only once is truly a highlight for me.


 


I'd also like to apologise for the additional advise I provided you, which was also read by the many members and guests of Vacuumland. As I believed this forum was open to all members, regardless if they were hobbyists or those in the vacuum industry, I thought participation was encouraged. Obviously, I was mistaken and for that I'm truly sorry.


 


As you already know everything, rest assured that the entire membership of the forum shall worship you silently and only create discussion unless you give prior permission for that discussion to take place. I'll also be in contact with various vacuum manufacturers and parts distributors to inform them that there's someone who knows everything. They'll be delighted!


 


In addition, I see you've created a new "favourite vacuum" thread; a typical trend of yours. September's "flavour of the month" appears to be a Sebo 370 Comfort. Please know that I'm waiting eagerly for your next "favourite vacuum". Could I suggest contacting media for breaking news coverage on your next favourite machine? Oops, my apologies for causing further stress with that suggestion. 


 


My deepest, sincerest, heartfelt apologies for the incredible inconvenience I've put you through while you underwent a three-day ordeal attempting to install a bag on your vacuum cleaner. It's a highlight that my advise was able to end your suffering.


 


Condolences,


 


Scott (AKA God, Vacuum God, Vaccuum God, Piano God and Piano or Vacuum God or whatever you call yourself)
 
I have to say, I use genuine Miele bags too, and I get a fine amount of dust leakage. Not enough to keep me awake at niight, and certainly not as much as the generic tat bags I got with it, but there is some.

Could be worse, the Panasonic I cleaned up and gave to mum has already browned it's bag door with an incredible amount of dust leakage from genuine panasonic bags!
 
Go Vacuum bags

I did receive the Go Vacuum bags. The seal is actually better than the OEM. The material of the OEM bag seem thicker, I will purchase a new OEM bag to compare. What I am really surprised about is how much power the Miele looses with a 1/3 full OEM bag. I do not have a gauge to prove how much but the suction with the new Go Vacuum bag is much greater.

I would like to see Go Vacuum do a dust particular reading on the exhaust to see if there is any filtration loss with their bags.

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The OEM seal

Now see the seal n the OEM bag, it is not truly round, might be a bad bag I will purchase new ones and compare.

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I don't own a Miele, but...

I have run nothing but genuine hepa bags in my Riccar Vibrance since I bought it and I haven't seen any dust in the bag chamber. I used to run generic Riccar bags in my old Riccar HP3000 and the bag chamber always had a thin layer of dust in it but I switched to genuine and I haven't found anymore dust in the bag chamber on it
 
You results may vary

Of course everyone results will vary depending on the manufacure and the quality of aftermarket bags. Miele bags are more expensive than Riccar bags. So far the Go Vacuum bag has not leaked any dust and is working just fine. Miele bags are outrages at $4.73 per bag. The Go Vaccum bags are $149.00 per bag and seem to be as good as the OEM bag.
 
$4.73 bag expensive?

No, not if there was not a generic that could do the job. If I felt the Miele bag was superior I would gladly pay three times more. Another item to consider is the Miele loses considerable suction with a bag that is 1/3 full, I will change my bags at 1/2 full. There are some people who use super unleaded in a car that only requires regular, it's their money.
 
Losing suction

I did not either until I pulled my 1/3 full bag and compared it the new Go Vacuum bag. I have no way to measure how much loss but I assure you it was substantial. Miele is a side drop not a top drop bag as Sebo is, if you do not think that that extra layered thick bag is not a factor in the airflow loss as it fills then you just not being honest with yourself. Is is enough to effect the cleaning ability? Probably not.

I am amazed at how many people think their vacuum is perfect just because is was expensive. There is a cost for everything including the 0 particles emissions that Miele delivers. IMHO, Sebo is much closer to building the perfect vacuum than Miele is. Miele does build the best vacuums for allergy sufferers.
 
Honestly, takes me months to even half fill a bag, normally just change it then, and typically I use it on pretty low power setting also.
 
Months

Each persons home is differnent. Size, amount of carpet, pets, children and the dust levels in the air all very. I vacuum every day, have 2000 sq feet of carpet and need to change my bag more often.

I read someone's review putting down a mIele machines brush roll. Stating they only vacuumed once every 2 months? Then why the heck worry about what vacuum they use if their willing to live in filth for 2 months?
 
I vacuum daily also, however its a lot of hardwood floors and only 650 sq ft, plus the Miele does not do the daily clean, too much trouble.
 
Owning A Miele

The Miele vacuums are amazing, my advise to anyone who purchases one is to treat it like an expensive sports car. They look great and perform well but they are fragile. You do not want to throw one around like you can a Sebo, they will brake. Note all the broken S7 that sell on eBay, the mechanics are solid but the frame is not. Also be careful with the S7 and what you suck onto it. One vacuum shop told me they had to tear apart an S7 Completly because it had a stuck bottle cap. Another tip is use plastic polish to keep that awesome finish looking good. You now own one of the best performing uprights at any cost.

nice review and enjoy yur S7
 
OEM Miele Bags

I have three Miele vacuums - S4, S5, and a brand new S8. The 4 is used in my small studio apartment, the 5 in my condo, and the new 8 in the big house. In my opinion, and I do know vacuums, is the Miele canister vacuums are the best vacuums in the market place. Superior suction, air flow, and filtration. Plus the added benefit of being able to customize each vacuum to YOUR particular needs, not what some uninformed engineer thinks you need.
Also, as an owner of a few top of the line Electrolux vacuums, I would never use any type of bag that was not OEM. Using off brands just increases the risk of motor damage, reduced air flow, and inferior filtration. If it is recommended by the manufacturer, I use them and nothing else. If you are willing to spend the money for a high line vacuum, why cheap out on the bags. If you do not want to spent money on bags, buy one of those useless bag less vacuums.
Someone on this site has a thing for bashing. Miele vacuums are absolutely not fragile. Anything will break if abused. I treat all my vacuums, in fact all of my things, with respect and care. Recently I gifted my Electrolux Super J to my housekeeper. When I informed of the vacuums age, she was shocked. It looked brand new. Care and respect is what it is all about.

A great day to all,

Richard
 
Not fragile?

Not fragile? Tell that to the people selling broken S7 uprights on ebay. The little plastic thing that is supposed to hold the hose always breaks. The handles breaks the led bulbs go out. The on/off switc
h goes bad, the hose collapses. Sorry some people are freaks with certain brands and believe anyone who reports the truth is bashing them.

The canisters are a different story, much better. Go Vacuum claims they dropped Miele because the S8 was a problem, not my claim but I was told this by their sales person. I like the S8 and believe there is no better vacuum made.

The Go Vacuum bag is still working flawless. Wow some rich guy gave his house keeper a used vacuum, should we give him a pat on the back? Why didn't you gift her a Miele you cheap skate?[this post was last edited: 9/9/2013-16:13]
 
For anyone reading this wanting to save money on Miele bags, there is a way to buy the Original Miele AirClean FJM and GN bags and save TONS of money!

Every dealer has access to the Miele ProPack packages of GN and FJM bags - this is their supply of bags they buy at discounted rates for repairs when a customer brings in a Miele vacuum for repair and the bag needs replacement. It is a box of 32 bags plus the pre motor and Super Air Clean filters per 4 bags.

Go into your local authorized Miele dealer and tell them you will buy each bag loose for $2.00 a bag plus tax. Trust me, they WILL do it - McHardy Vacuum here in London, Ontario at the Dundas Street location in particular will do it if you go in store to purchase - so don't let any authorized Miele dealer tell you they can't do it! Threaten the dealer that YOU WILL go to their competition if they don't sell the bags at that price. And I would also use it as a bargaining chip if you're buying a new Miele vacuum from them - warn them if they don't agree to sell the bags at that price after the sale you will take your business to their competition. Considering a 4 pack of genuine Miele bags is $20 plus tax, this is considerable savings vs paying $5.00 a bag.

Rob

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I remember this thread. I still can't figure out why and how those genuine Miele bags were leaking out of vegassucks's machine. It's possible it was a defective bag as he thought it might've been, not sure though.
 
Alex, the problem vegassucks had was he made the mistake most new Miele owners make - opening the bag door to check the bag. and not clicking the bag back in place in the bag holder before closing the bag door again. Then since the bag door tube didn't go into the hole in the bag collar, dirt leaked into the bag chamber instead of going into the bag. Vegassucks was dumb enough to think it was because the silicone seal surrounging the hole on the bag collar didn't make a good enough seal to the bag door tube and was "defective". Man that guy was such a dumbass! :P

As far as I am concerned, I don't care what anyone here or ANY Miele dealer tries to say - when installed and used properly, THE GENERIC BAGS DO NOT LEAK - PERIOD! I have owned several Miele canisters and used many generic bags over the years, and my experience has been they work perfectly fine. The only thing I suggest is to buy generic bags with the IntensiveClean or AirClean style collar for best results. I merely decided to mention about being able to get the genuine Miele bags for cheap when I found out about it through my local dealer - who just so happens to be Canada's largest Miele dealer, I might add - that way, anyone else who chooses to use the genuine bags for whatever reason knows how to get them at the best possible price.

Rob
 

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